Why Don't They Go After Hollywood

Pharma / TRT
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OK, so the media and the " powers that be" have had their 2007 steroid witch hunt. They’ve turned up olympic athletes , mlb’ers , tried to pin AAS on a wrestler’s rampage and so on . So why don’t they go after hollywood actors (thats my overall ? )? Christian Bale comes to mind. Yeh he looks good in Batman but 8 months before shooting began he still weighed 120lbs from The Machinist. How bout Brad Pitt in Troy. He put on at least 25lbs of clean fat free mass for this movie.

Are we to believe that in hollywood these big salary actors can afford some secret personal trainer who knows secret workout routines ? Whats even funnier is that earlier this evening it was my wife that brought this to my attention !

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Big time double edged sword, Attack the athletes as the use of steroids are considered cheating. But you know the actors in question are just able to workout all the time with the best trainers and all but no way can be cheating juiceheads. Like the athlete dont have the same resources as the actors but yet are singled out.

just the media doing what it do best, sensationalize the latest rating seller, one bb player admits of using HGH and then shoots it up the ladder, the feds go wow we need a new drug to go after…yep the devil steroid.

Ever notice how the media after a tragic plane crash, all of a sudden pops up new of plane crashes all over the place. “Today a single engined cessna crash landed in farmer brown field” same difference.

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Rich hollywood actors could easily go overseas (or Mexico) to “train” for an upcoming role. Pick a country where steroids are legal and Poof!.. No harm no foul.

You also have the halo effect. Brad Pitt is too cute/rich/popular to do anything wrong. The bastard!

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I wish they would leave EVERYONE the hell alone.

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Ok, the two guys you mentioned and how many others? Sly? There’s just not the numbers there to get em hungry for Hollywood.

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[quote]Dedicated wrote:
Ok, the two guys you mentioned and how many others? Sly? There’s just not the numbers there to get em hungry for Hollywood.

D[/quote]

Good Point(s)! That basically sums it up.

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[quote]Kruiser wrote:
Rich hollywood actors could easily go overseas (or Mexico) to “train” for an upcoming role. Pick a country where steroids are legal and Poof!.. No harm no foul.

You also have the halo effect. Brad Pitt is too cute/rich/popular to do anything wrong. The bastard![/quote]

If I had their resources I’d do the same thing. I’ve read that if you live close to the Mexican border you can go once a week for your injection(s). Sounds like a good deal.

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you can ask the same question of any number of hollywood actors…fuck, demi moore hasn’t aged in like 20 years, don’t tell me it’s the fucking diet she’s on, that’s plastic surgery and some very pricey peptides at work.

it is just pure media sensationalism…after a while we run out of hurricaines, tsunami’s, and iraq war’s so it is time to go hunting for a new front page. Unfortunately they really don’t give a shit about what they are reporting…just how many magazines it will sell and how many viewers it will get so the story is better if it is full of dirt.

I have been thinking more and more lately how much safer a cycle would be if steroids and peptides were all legal, properly produced by legit pharmacies, and monitored by docotors to make sure nothing went wrong. It’s a fucking shame cause we could probably reduce health care spending overall if it was the reality.

I need to go channel this anger into a lifting session.

FG out.

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what about all the image trickery used to manipulate our perception. tight camera angles, clever cuts and digital post production often make things seem larger/younger/whatever-positive-thing than they appear.

the camera adds ten pounds they say, i say its more like 20 for these guys when they are ripped. place them beside model-thin 5 foot tall actresses…

i’m not going to touch the sly thing, as he is an obvious user, but the charges leveled against pitt and bale are poor (though not necessarily false). anyone who has their genetics can easily put on the type of mass they did. a few months in a beach house in malibu with a trainer and cook at your disposal and really you have no excuse for not putting on that kind of weight.

most of us though would have trouble even with sauce. and it is due to all the other things in our lives that affect our ability to eat, train, and sleep to maximize gains. at each stage most of us are picking the least worst of two options instead of having an expert worry about providing you with the optimal routine and modifying it in a context dependent manner.

now if one believes that 20 million contingent on physique is not enough to motivate them to follow their plan and get expected results, then that reveals a person who is not likely to succeed at much in life, much less something as hard as self control required for a world class physique.

truth is i don’t think most people would succeed even with everything provided. even with similar genetics with regard to physique. at this point the drive to succeed becomes the most important, and most just don’t have that.

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It’s all political patter IMO. First they use the media to sensationalize steroid use and they ate it up. Then they come in and distract the GP from everything that’s wrong with this country by succeeding at a few big busts. No idea how they pulled off all these MLB confessions, probably threatened to ruin their marriages by taking pictures of them on the road with their girlfriends. I hate to sound like Joe Conspiracy Theory bc that’s not my MO, but when the shoe fits.

Btw, how about Ed Norton Jr in American History X, that was pretty obvious. Then he looked like the same skinny rail in his next movie Rounders.

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[quote]ubl0 wrote:
what about all the image trickery used to manipulate our perception. tight camera angles, clever cuts and digital post production often make things seem larger/younger/whatever-positive-thing than they appear.

the camera adds ten pounds they say, i say its more like 20 for these guys when they are ripped. place them beside model-thin 5 foot tall actresses…

i’m not going to touch the sly thing, as he is an obvious user, but the charges leveled against pitt and bale are poor (though not necessarily false). anyone who has their genetics can easily put on the type of mass they did. a few months in a beach house in malibu with a trainer and cook at your disposal and really you have no excuse for not putting on that kind of weight.

most of us though would have trouble even with sauce. and it is due to all the other things in our lives that affect our ability to eat, train, and sleep to maximize gains. at each stage most of us are picking the least worst of two options instead of having an expert worry about providing you with the optimal routine and modifying it in a context dependent manner.

now if one believes that 20 million contingent on physique is not enough to motivate them to follow their plan and get expected results, then that reveals a person who is not likely to succeed at much in life, much less something as hard as self control required for a world class physique.

truth is i don’t think most people would succeed even with everything provided. even with similar genetics with regard to physique. at this point the drive to succeed becomes the most important, and most just don’t have that.[/quote]

Whatever. It is easier to get ahold of drugs in Hollywood than in Amsterdam. These guys have whatever they want at their disposal and someone to hold it for them and administer it so that they don’t even take any of the risk of being caught. Now, with a $20-30 million paycheck for a film in which they are expected to put on 25lbs of muscle (or to cut up and keep it, for that matter), it’s just stupid to think that these guys are not going to do whatever it takes, including drugs, to get to that point.

Add to that the vanity and vicious dog-eat-dog nature of Hollywood and I wouldn’t be surprised if we one day find out that the vast, vast majority of actors are not taking some kind of AAS or peptide. People don’t just take steroids to get big, either.

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[quote]ubl0 wrote:
i’m not going to touch the sly thing, as he is an obvious user, but the charges leveled against pitt and bale are poor (though not necessarily false). anyone who has their genetics can easily put on the type of mass they did. a few months in a beach house in malibu with a trainer and cook at your disposal and really you have no excuse for not putting on that kind of weight.[/quote]

No doubt. And anyone holding up Pitt and Bale’s physiques as some sort of standard clearly hasn’t made much progress on their own.

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I didn’t read that as what was being done. But rather it was noticing that big-name Hollywood actors NEVER fail in obtaining dramatic physique improvements – relative to where they were, not relative to bodybuilders of course – in short periods of time and that this is best explained by drugs being used in at least some cases.

The Hollywood actors being talked about are not the products of selection for muscle-building genetics. They’re the product of selection of genetics for facial appearance, perhaps voice, perhaps some skills with facial expression, and if anything physique-wise towards being skinny.

If drugs were not used, there would be a much higher failure rate particularly with regards to quickly getting moderately ripped while actually adding muscle. Definitely I expect several are users. While I never did a consult with Hollywood actors I have with stage actors. Who were not looking to be huge, but rather to be the type of look we’re talking about here. So if steroids are being used at that level it’s pretty unlikely the film stars would not have access or reason to use.

As to why there is no effort to prosecute them, I doubt there is the slightest bit of public outrage or indignation on the matter, whereas with sports there unfortunately are quite a few people who froth at the mouth at the idea of their precious sport being “dirtied” by “cheaters” and demand government action rather than expecting the sports organizations in question to handle their own business.

Also, the “we’re doing it for the children” aspect probably comes into play also with regard to this subset of public demand, as some are of the mindset that athletes using drugs will encourage high-school athletes to do the same and therefore the government must prosecute athletes who use drugs; whereas I doubt anyone thinks that high school drama club members are going to use steroids on account of a Hollywood actor having done so. So there is probably no “outrage” on that account either: just no real public concern at all.

So a prosecutor aiming to achieve favorable publicity and public image for himself is not going to see a big future in going after a popular actor, though he can predict having people with influence and money arrayed against him if he tries it.

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There’s also the “role model” issue. Going out on a limb I’d say sports figures are held more accountable to the public/fans/etc for their behavior on and off the field than the Hollywood types.

Remember last year when everyone realized Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Ritchie were taking clen to keep lean/thin/heroin chic (Among other things I imagine)? It was sensational, folks bought tabloids, watched the story on ET, clicked their tounges about it and went to bed. No one expects these people (the H-wood set) to be a positive role model as the industry is built around deception as an earlier poster pointed out.

Don’t really know what my point is, maybe sports folks are believed to be held to the myth of “fair play” that sport is supposed to be about and so it’s a bigger deal when they appear to be violating that tenant.

It may be a different story if there were acting-bolic steroids…

Annnnd Mr. Roberts just said it better than I could. Drat.

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It doesnt seem like the public wants to go after the “appealing” 150lb ripped 5% bf physique, but seems to attack the 200lb+ men (normally athletes).
Very few hollywood actors fit into this category, which may be some factor into why this group is never looked at.

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Why are so many of you non-Americans contributing to the rants against the American government?

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[quote]IceGiant wrote:
Kruiser wrote:
Rich hollywood actors could easily go overseas (or Mexico) to “train” for an upcoming role. Pick a country where steroids are legal and Poof!.. No harm no foul.

You also have the halo effect. Brad Pitt is too cute/rich/popular to do anything wrong. The bastard!

If I had their resources I’d do the same thing. I’ve read that if you live close to the Mexican border you can go once a week for your injection(s). Sounds like a good deal.[/quote]

I knew a guy who lived in San Diego that went down to Tijana every week to get a few shots of gear. Living in the USA and doing a steroid cycle legally.

Too bad cheeta doesn’t live in Florida…;^)

I heard the Mediterranean is lovely this time of year.

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Stallone has already been bashed and semi-forgiven for the HGH thing, as most ‘normals’ are ignorant to begin with regarding AAS and ergocentrics anyway…Democrap Schumer is already grandstanding, calling for Congressional hearing to BAN HGH and further his career, knowing the Ban motif worked when used against firearms, should equally work against so called evil HGH…Except that HGH is not evil, especially to the aging baby-boomer/retirement crowd, hopefully the anti-aging forces will step up and represent, & smackdown his bill…Hollywood is not AAS tested, they get a free pass, cause’ the bottom line is how you look, all else can be forgiven with a good sob story and a lawyer…We GymRats dont have the same luxury, unfortunately…

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[quote]Contrl wrote:
Why are so many of you non-Americans contributing to the rants against the American government?[/quote]

My apologies, I thought it was a rant against mainstream media and the amount of time the “Steroids in Sport” issue gets as opposed to the entertainment industry who also seem to enjoy the benefits of performance enhacing drugs without any of the media villification.

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[quote]chillain wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
i’m not going to touch the sly thing, as he is an obvious user, but the charges leveled against pitt and bale are poor (though not necessarily false). anyone who has their genetics can easily put on the type of mass they did. a few months in a beach house in malibu with a trainer and cook at your disposal and really you have no excuse for not putting on that kind of weight.

No doubt. And anyone holding up Pitt and Bale’s physiques as some sort of standard clearly hasn’t made much progress on their own.

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Actually their physiques in Batman and Troy are pretty impressive and could definitely be considered good progress by anyone who doesn’t have amazing genetics to be huge. Maybe you’re holding yourself to the freak standard of Ronnie and Jay or some other big bloated gut 250+ pounder and that’s fine but Pitt looks awesome in Troy. I’d rather look like that than those guys.

Here’s the shot of Christian from one movie to the next. Supposedly he gained this in 6 weeks. If my eyes are failing me by telling me that’s progress then I might as well end it now.