I found myself on their forum today because the topic of Ed Norton and whether he took roids to get “big” in AHX was brought up by one of me friends so of course I googled away. Now whether or not he was on gear isn’t the reason I posted this. As I read through their posts to see if anyone had proof or something one guy cited CT.
I thought that was cool, good for CT’s reputation. He talked about not being able to put on more than 5 pounds of muscle in a month, then the aforementioned men’s-healther (who boasts a 245 1rm on his squat) claimed, “but for real i dont think anyone hear takes steriods. Go over to T-Nation and talk to those roid ragers.”
yea those were his exact words(It’s “here” not “hear,” Pal). I think he might be a T-Nation reject. Either way, they wanna rumble…
I used to be a part of menshealth, they might bash this sight a few times but they link almost all new members to a lot of the articles on here. Chad Waterbury is pretty popular over there as well.
I’d put my vote in that Norton took roids. He was really skinny before that movie, and skinny again afterwards. Unlikely he put that much muscle on that quickly, and cut, in the amount of time an actor typically gets to prepare for a role.
I like to remember that for most of the guys plodding away at the gym without any real information, experience, or ‘real’ knowledgable people to guide them, anyone who weighs more than 180lbs must be on steroids. It’s a sad state of sour grapes, combined with some type of delusion. My buddies joke that so many of the younger guys at our gym just assume I use, so why the hell not.
Funny for a bit, until you really look at what a comment like that says about the guys who will spend years in the gym with nothing in the way of real progress to show for it.
Sure I’ve picked up the occassional issue of Men’s Health when I;ve been stuck in Penn Station, but the only worthwhile articles are the ones not on training. Well, maybe I shouldnt say that, but for anyone who’s been training and eating correctly for more than 2 years, it’s all pretty dumbed down if you’re used to Berardi, CT, Waterbury and Poliquin (just a few of my favs).
[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
but it is because of that site that I found T-Nation.[/quote]
Same here, so I am somewhat partial to Men’s Health, because if it wasn’t for them posting the website in their magazine, I wouldn’t be taking advantage of all the good info and supplements.
[quote]JMajor wrote:
I found myself on their forum today because the topic of Ed Norton and whether he took roids to get “big” in AHX was brought up by one of me friends so of course I googled away. Now whether or not he was on gear isn’t the reason I posted this. As I read through their posts to see if anyone had proof or something one guy cited CT. I thought that was cool, good for CT’s reputation. He talked about not being able to put on more than 5 pounds of muscle in a month, then the aforementioned men’s-healther (who boasts a 245 1rm on his squat) claimed, “but for real i dont think anyone hear takes steriods. Go over to T-Nation and talk to those roid ragers.”
yea those were his exact words(It’s “here” not “hear,” Pal). I think he might be a T-Nation reject. Either way, they wanna rumble… [/quote]
So the fuck what? They are entitled to the odd snipe at T-Nation. I’ve seen Men’s Health mentioned in a negative manner many a time on this site.
But a cyber war would be sort of fun and I have many. Name a time and a thread. De Sleeplijn will be there.
I always thought it was interesting that Norton either natural or with AAS put on a lot muscle and got in great shape and then didn’t keep up with it. Like it was just for the role and he had no interest in it otherwise. Usually guys who start lifting and see good gains really get into and get hooked, like all of us. Weird.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
but it is because of that site that I found T-Nation.
Same here, so I am somewhat partial to Men’s Health, because if it wasn’t for them posting the website in their magazine, I wouldn’t be taking advantage of all the good info and supplements.[/quote]
I hate to admit it but some here… I am glad I found the way.
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
I always thought it was interesting that Norton either natural or with AAS put on a lot muscle and got in great shape and then didn’t keep up with it. Like it was just for the role and he had no interest in it otherwise. Usually guys who start lifting and see good gains really get into and get hooked, like all of us. Weird.[/quote]
Ryan Reynolds did the same thing after doing BladeIII, claiming the eating and lifting was too much work…These mopes run in hollywood circles, and can get hot goldigger chicks as a pencilneck, so there is no incentive for them to maintain a buff physique since it’s not integral to getting roles or gettin’ laid.
They (as egotistical artistes’/Actors) dont want to be mistaken for male models (that have to maintain some type of shape), whom they look down upon. Exceptions to this mentality are rare…
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
AAARG! THAT MAKES ME SO ANGRY! I’M ENRAGED, OUT OF CONTROL! I AM GOING TO KILL EVEYONE ON THAT SITE WITH A USED SYRINGE! MY BALLS! AHHHHH!
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Hahahahaha! That was great! I spit out some coffee from laughing!
I stopped reading MH and other “men’s lifestyle” magazines awhile ago. I got sick of them because I felt like I was always being pressured into buying the latest and greatest gismos and clothes for the sake of being cool. When it comes to health and fitness, MH is ok to get you started, but that’s about it.
As for Norton and other Hollywood folk, their bodies are costumes. To them it’s like growing a beard or changing your accent for a role. Unless they’re really into training and nutrition, none of them are going to keep up with it.
I’m sick of everyobody saying Norton took steroids. He did NOT juice.
He’s not THAT big in the movie. Or cut either.
He was skinny prior to the role. As such, whether he had muscle in his earlier years or not, his body would be as receptive as a beginners.
He said he took lots of meat shakes and lifted weights nearly everyday. I am sure a newbie who eats a lot and trains frequently (and sleep loads, and eat the right things whenever he wants, etc because he is an actor) would easily make those gains.
Enough with the ‘NORTON IZ ON ROIDS’ bullshit. He didn’t look that spectacular in the film, only like a guy who lifts.
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
I always thought it was interesting that Norton either natural or with AAS put on a lot muscle and got in great shape and then didn’t keep up with it. Like it was just for the role and he had no interest in it otherwise. Usually guys who start lifting and see good gains really get into and get hooked, like all of us. Weird.[/quote]
It has a lot to do with the types of roles he takes. Can you imagine a big muscley guy playing his role in say, The Illusionist? Big guys get typecast. Christian Bale also isn’t particularly interested in staying in shape (I saw an interview where he said he’d “rather be in the pub”), but the roles he takes demand he keeps up with it to an extent. These guys are lifting to look a certain way, and as an actor Big And Ripped isn’t always the best way to look. Bale would have looked silly if he was as ripped in Batman as he was in American Psycho for instance.
People give Ryan Reynolds a lot of shit, and sure, he’s skinnier now, but he’s still not in bad shape, and to have even once gotten in the enviable shape he was in for Blade Trinity is an achievement. I don’t know what it is about bodybuilders (or perhaps just ones on the internet) that they feel so obliged to mock the achievements of others.
[quote]JMajor wrote:
I found myself on their forum today because the topic of Ed Norton and whether he took roids to get “big” in AHX was brought up by one of me friends so of course I googled away. Now whether or not he was on gear isn’t the reason I posted this. As I read through their posts to see if anyone had proof or something one guy cited CT. I thought that was cool, good for CT’s reputation. He talked about not being able to put on more than 5 pounds of muscle in a month, then the aforementioned men’s-healther (who boasts a 245 1rm on his squat) claimed, “but for real i dont think anyone hear takes steriods. Go over to T-Nation and talk to those roid ragers.”
yea those were his exact words(It’s “here” not “hear,” Pal). I think he might be a T-Nation reject. Either way, they wanna rumble… [/quote]
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
I stopped reading MH and other “men’s lifestyle” magazines awhile ago. I got sick of them because I felt like I was always being pressured into buying the latest and greatest gismos and clothes for the sake of being cool. [/quote]
I also felt they weren’t written for the type of man that I am. I don’t live in a big city, I’m not an executive, “clubbing” never meant shit to me, and I cook more than I eat out. It seems they gear the mags for young men who are doing well for themselves in a major metropolitan area. I understand that that group of people are more likely to have money to spend on the things they advertise, but that group is not as big as they portray.
I make very decent salary for not being white collar, yet the fashion, dining, and the “pick up” tips fall very short from their mark on me. I’m not snubbing the idea of being a well groomed, well dressed man, but I feel many of their ideas go beyond polished masculinity, and in to fringe trend narcissism.
