[quote]hungry4more wrote:
The Bambino wrote:
Where was God when I dropped the bar on my chest last week? Where? WHERE? Where was he then, huh???
Just kidding guys. Sorta.
I bet God was sitting there thinking “pride comes before a fall, and I can’t wait to see the bar drop on this guy’s chest because he put on more than he could handle.” [/quote]
Ha!
/resurrection
BB.com sucks as i started there for 2 months before here, and they gave me the most shittiest workouts EVER along with buy abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz supplement which will in turn do LOTS OF UNREAL THINGS for me… turned out NO THEY DIDNT!
Personally i think people who NEED to believe in religion do indeed have a WEAK intellect.
Those who cannot believe in themselves and need that “comfort” should grow up mentally and go with the mentality “if i dont do it NO ONE will” stop waiting and praying for some miracle to save your ass.
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
BB.com sucks as i started there for 2 months before here, and they gave me the most shittiest workouts EVER along with buy abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz supplement which will in turn do LOTS OF UNREAL THINGS for me… turned out NO THEY DIDNT!
Personally i think people who NEED to believe in religion do indeed have a WEAK intellect.
Those who cannot believe in themselves and need that “comfort” should grow up mentally and go with the mentality “if i dont do it NO ONE will” stop waiting and praying for some miracle to save your ass.
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Now that is a straw man in most cases; most people who believe in God, myself included, don’t sit around their whole lives waiting for God to do everything for us. I realize that I’m going to have to pull myself up by my own bootstraps, and that’s fine by me. My belief isn’t a crutch, it’s a belief. I’ve never expected God to help bring my lifts up, because that is something determined by my hard work and commitment.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Corkonian wrote:
BB.com sucks as i started there for 2 months before here, and they gave me the most shittiest workouts EVER along with buy abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz supplement which will in turn do LOTS OF UNREAL THINGS for me… turned out NO THEY DIDNT!
Personally i think people who NEED to believe in religion do indeed have a WEAK intellect.
Those who cannot believe in themselves and need that “comfort” should grow up mentally and go with the mentality “if i dont do it NO ONE will” stop waiting and praying for some miracle to save your ass.
Now that is a straw man in most cases; most people who believe in God, myself included, don’t sit around their whole lives waiting for God to do everything for us. I realize that I’m going to have to pull myself up by my own bootstraps, and that’s fine by me. My belief isn’t a crutch, it’s a belief. I’ve never expected God to help bring my lifts up, because that is something determined by my hard work and commitment. [/quote]
Exactly.
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
BB.com sucks as i started there for 2 months before here, and they gave me the most shittiest workouts EVER along with buy abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz supplement which will in turn do LOTS OF UNREAL THINGS for me… turned out NO THEY DIDNT!
Personally i think people who NEED to believe in religion do indeed have a WEAK intellect.
Those who cannot believe in themselves and need that “comfort” should grow up mentally and go with the mentality “if i dont do it NO ONE will” stop waiting and praying for some miracle to save your ass.
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He helps those who help themselves.
Not mental weakness, but mental strength to resist life’s many temptations.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
There’s valuable info to be had there, you just have to have a very strong bullshit detector. [/quote]
Very true for anywhere you go. I’m not on their forums but if it weren’t for Bodybuilding.com, Men’s Health, and other sources of information commonly mocked on this website, I probably wouldn’t have started Squatting and Deadlifting as soon as I did.
Okay, about religion. It’s all a matter of opinion. Seriously, what has everyone gotten accomplished in this thread besides reaffirm their own beliefs? Nothing. I’m not saying that’s the problem with religion, but that’s the problem with people TALKING about religion.
Now I’m not saying that good, constructive debating is a bad thing, because I don’t think it is. I just don’t see any point in discussing God, religion, what’s tangible and what’s not tangible. Why? Because when we’re done, we’re still going to know nothing for sure, that is definite. Yeah, maybe there’s a planet full of Wookies, but sitting here explaining why I think Planet Wookie exists is pointless.
Back to the original content of the thread: Why are you hating on this kid? He changed his physique, he’s young, he still has a lot of growing to do. The end.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
How is it “weak and ridiculous” to point out that belief in a higher power isn’t a trait of a weak intellect?
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I believe Richard Dawkins addresses this in some of his books and points to research showing a negative correlation between faith in a higher power and intelligence
so if you believe that research, generally speaking a weak intellect is a trait of those who believe in a higher power
I dont see the big deal though…hes not big…but come on guys…he was a fatass…that had to take some motivation and hard work to get to where he is. ATLEAST he made progress…eventually if he trains for long enough to reads he will actually know about training protocols…stop knocking people all the time. Even if the god bullshit is funny…
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Now that is a straw man in most cases; most people who believe in God, myself included, don’t sit around their whole lives waiting for God to do everything for us. I realize that I’m going to have to pull myself up by my own bootstraps, and that’s fine by me. My belief isn’t a crutch, it’s a belief. I’ve never expected God to help bring my lifts up, because that is something determined by my hard work and commitment. [/quote]
That’s because God wants us to do things for ourselves. We’d be pretty pathetic if we expected God to do everything for us.
[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
How is it “weak and ridiculous” to point out that belief in a higher power isn’t a trait of a weak intellect?
I believe Richard Dawkins addresses this in some of his books and points to research showing a negative correlation between faith in a higher power and intelligence
so if you believe that research, generally speaking a weak intellect is a trait of those who believe in a higher power[/quote]
That’s not quite the case…
He makes this claim with no systematic data, a few anecdotes, some polling from a sample of university scientists and professors, along with his deep hatred of religion.
Negative relationships/corellation can almost always be shown, this does not demonstrate causation.
[quote]98V wrote:
He makes this claim with no systematic data, a few anecdotes, some polling from a sample of university scientists and professors, along with his deep hatred of religion.
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I haven’t actually read his books only heard from people who have, so i can’t comment on the rigor of the “studies.”
who said anything about causation?
not totally sure about why u included this last part
[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
Albert Einstein found a belief in God at the end of his life.
not totally sure about why u included this last part
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Retracted it…
Dawkins claims were partially based on sampling scientists as representative of intelligence.
lol well it figures from dawkins… he seems like quite the asshole
[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
lol well it figures from dawkins… he seems like quite the asshole[/quote]
Why is that?
dawkins… ive just read various debates and excerpts from him and have seen him on a few interviews etc…
i mean i generally agree with his point of view… he just comes across as an asshole
I’ve never thought so, though I do agree with most of his stuff too.
Check out a book called “God is not Great” by Christopher Hitchens. From what I recall, he has belonged to many religions and traveled the world studying them - he raises both good and bad things about religion but I found some of the stuff in the very interesting.
This human mind is a powerful thing.
I don’t understand how he went from a 4" waist to a 31" waist. How does that happen?
Before: November 2006
Weight: 165 lbs
Arms: 12"
Waist: 4"
Body Fat: 21%
Bench: 170 lbs
After: April 2007
Weight: 185
Arms: 15.5"
Waist: 31"
Body Fat: 9 %
Bench: 240 lbs
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
I don’t understand how he went from a 4" waist to a 31" waist. How does that happen?
Before: November 2006
Weight: 165 lbs
Arms: 12"
Waist: 4"
Body Fat: 21%
Bench: 170 lbs
After: April 2007
Weight: 185
Arms: 15.5"
Waist: 31"
Body Fat: 9 %
Bench: 240 lbs [/quote]
I’m pretty sure it’s just a typo. Come on now, 4" isn’t even possible.
[quote]rsg wrote:
I’ve never thought so, though I do agree with most of his stuff too.
Check out a book called “God is not Great” by Christopher Hitchens. From what I recall, he has belonged to many religions and traveled the world studying them - he raises both good and bad things about religion but I found some of the stuff in the very interesting.
This human mind is a powerful thing.[/quote]
sounds cool … ill have to check it out