WHY Are You In This Forum?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:

  1. I am in this forum because I like the people, the advice and seeing people achieve their goals (or learning from failures). Generally, it’s a great resource w/ great people.

  2. Generally, the lamenting that goes on is a waste of time and says more about the person posting than the subject about which they lament.

  3. There needs to be more (a) posting about bodybuilding than (b) posting about posting about bodybuilding.

  4. 80% (warning: made up statistic) of the time this is a SEMANTIC discussion- IOW, it’s merely arguments about what is embraced/described by the word “bodybuilding”.

  5. MY GRIPE w/ some people who are “hardcore” around here is the fact that EVERYTHING is skewed by the drug use that is rampant in the sport. The reality is that our perception about what constitutes big, well-conditioned, strong, etc. has been skewed to the point that people who make fantastic progress (e.g. 15 lbs of muscle in a year with little fat gain) are seen as pussies who aren’t eating enough. Adding 35 lean pounds of muscle over 5-7 years may not be that bad in terms of progress. I frequently read things like “come back when you’ve gained 20 lbs”-- well, that could be 2 years unless the person wants half their new weight to be fat, so that advice is shitty and creates the perception among impressionable newbs that they need to gain weight faster than they really need to.

Please don’t drill me on the numbers I’m using…I’m just using those examples to illustrate an overall point. For natural trainees, I do believe that different eating habits and training protocols may be more optimal. So, when Flex Wheeler or Branch Warren’s training routine/intensity are discussed, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. At the same time, the tired old chestnut of “this shit has worked for pros for decades, why are you making it so complicated” IS NOT very helpful to most people.

So, to summarize- it’s the insistence that how the pros train, eat, recover, etc. is the end all, w/o at least acknowledging that their approach works particularly well due to drugs is to turn a blind eye to a key component of their overall approach and successs. I don’t think a natural trainee w/ something other than elite genetics should eat/train like a pro.

That doesn’t make me anti-bodybuilding. Niether does my belief that newbs are tending to pack on too much fat in their pursuit of mass than they need to be, and that’s a direct result of certain people preaching their gospel of weight gain. I realize newbs’ reading comprehension abilities are partially to blame.

Remember, size impresses, conditioning wins contests.

Fact:
Some people have the genetics for this.

Fact:
Some people do not have the genetics for this.

Fact:
People who do not have the genetics for this can potentially slow down the progress of those who do by claiming everything needs to be toned down for those who achieve least.

Fact:
This activity is not for those with the weakest genetic potential.

It is not unbelievable for someone to gain 20lbs of mostly muscle (if not all) in a year even after newbie gains have gone. “Kingbeef” on this site just proved that which means he has the genetics for this. If YOU alone do not, do not expect the rest of us to dull down our discussions for you. That is illogical.

The first year I started lifting, I put on over 20lbs in one semester with most of it being muscle mass (I say most because I did not get any measurements done aside from body weight but I did not get noticeably fatter). By the end of that year I was up nearly 40lbs hitting 190 for the first time with a little more body fat on me (I may have gained too quickly but I sure as hell wouldn’t go back and change it because it worked in the long run). If YOU can not do the same, then you need to adjust things for you but quit trying to claim our expectations are too high or that our views are skewed. Of course they are skewed to someone who does not have the same potential or the same goals because the chances of you doing similar may be less.[/quote]

I’m here because I rather argue with you that pro’s use steriods, then agree on the quilting forum that sweaters are warm in the winter. What can I say I’m just not interested in warm sweaters.
Don’t worry I also go into superhero forums also and can care less if I’ll ever be able to fly.

Now to the argument,
Can you tell me who these pros with the natural genetics to compete without steriods are?, because all i’ve heard from pro’s who competed and are willing to report back is that a) they all use (even old timers) or b) they don’t want to talk about it ( I guess that means it’s really sensative topic to not use steriods in bodybuilding).

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Most of these people bitching and putting others down are losers and wont ever amount too shit.

Their arguments

  1. Yah your big but you have fat on you, so your not impressive.
  2. Yah your big and defined, but you obviously must use steroids, so thats not impressive.

While truth is you who put others down, are nothing and the only way your going to feel good about your pathetic selves is by putting others down online.

Wake the fuck up and realize your on a bodybuilding site in the bodybuilding forum, if your going to argue against real lifters than get out simple as that

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[quote]trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?[/quote]

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

I’m here because I rather argue with you that pro’s use steriods, then agree on the quilting forum that sweaters are warm in the winter. What can I say I’m just not interested in warm sweaters.
Don’t worry I also go into superhero forums also and can care less if I’ll ever be able to fly.

Now to the argument,
Can you tell me who these pros with the natural genetics to compete without steriods are?, because all i’ve heard from pro’s who competed and are willing to report back is that a) they all use (even old timers) or b) they don’t want to talk about it ( I guess that means it’s really sensative topic to not use steriods in bodybuilding).

[/quote]

You aren’t even worth the effort. People like you focus on steroids alone when the truth is, there must be millions of people using steroids in excess of what some pros use yet they don’t look like them. Who is walking around stating that pro bodybuilders do not use steroids?

Why even try?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.
[/quote]

Feel free to read the last sentence of my post first.

Are you natural? Have you always been natural? Do you intend to stay natural?

Also, the reason I asked your beginning and ending stats (which, by the way, it would’ve been easier for you to simply type the answer than what you wrote) is that I’m curious as to what your average annual bodyweight gain has been. It’s a straightforward question, and you have quite an ego if you think your mere posting about it in some other thread at some other time means, per se, everyone will or should already know that. I’m not aware of everyone’s actions on this site.

From what I gather, you started around age 17 or so and are currently 30-32. If you started around 170, and are now 270, that means you have gained roughly 6-7.5 lbs per year. I realize that there have been fluctuations along the way.

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff. I’m not flaming you, but try for a minute to look at this from someone else’s point of view.

If you were in our shoes, how would you react to you, and would the fact that you start tons of threads thumping your chest and monitoring others not piss you off?

Would you wonder why everyone else must post a “wheels” shot when they post pics, but all we have of you are grainy most-musculars and a grainy side shot with favorable lighting?

All you have is almost 30K posts and are a big guy-- I see that in my gym every day. Don’t get me wrong, I respect it, but you have to remember there are a lot of opinions out there.

I have absolutely zero doubt that part of it is the fact that you are encouraged (free supplements? I dunno) by Tim and others to continue the internet persona and lend credibility to the forums. They generate traffic, and just like a good gym you need street cred to generate forum traffic because after all, forum traffic generates $$$$ for the site.

You can start by answering my basic question above regarding time elapsed and weight gain. Then, you can move on to the other stuff if you’d like.

Just bear in mind that you started this thread and in effect called everyone out that you disagree w/…since your trump card is your own progress and acheivements you have put those at issue and so they are fair game.

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[quote]trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.

Feel free to read the last sentence of my post first.

Are you natural? Have you always been natural? Do you intend to stay natural?

Also, the reason I asked your beginning and ending stats (which, by the way, it would’ve been easier for you to simply type the answer than what you wrote) is that I’m curious as to what your average annual bodyweight gain has been. It’s a straightforward question, and you have quite an ego if you think your mere posting about it in some other thread at some other time means, per se, everyone will or should already know that. I’m not aware of everyone’s actions on this site.

From what I gather, you started around age 17 or so and are currently 30-32. If you started around 170, and are now 270, that means you have gained roughly 6-7.5 lbs per year. I realize that there have been fluctuations along the way.

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff.

All you have is almost 30K posts and are a big guy-- I see that in my gym every day.

I have absolutely zero doubt that part of it is the fact that you are encouraged (free supplements? I dunno) by Tim and others to continue the internet persona and lend credibility to the forums. They generate traffic, and just like a good gym you need street cred to generate forum traffic because after all, forum traffic generates $$$$ for the site.

You can start by answering my basic question above regarding time elapsed and weight gain. Then, you can move on to the other stuff if you’d like.

Just bear in mind that you started this fucking thread and in effect called everyone out that you disagree w/…since your trump card is your own progress and acheivements you have put those at issue and so they are fair game.
[/quote]

I do not use steroids. I have bought MAG-10 from this website before though. What does this have to do WITH YOU? It is none of your business what my stats are. That has nothing at all TO DO WITH YOU. What does MY progress have to do with YOUR progress? Jealous?

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If I want to know anything about bodybuilding… I got to the Alpha Cell. I read what the people in there are writing/saying/typing w/e you wanna call it. To me if you want to learn about Bodybuilding, good approaches, advice, supplements or even motivation, go to the Alpha cell. If I feel so pressing about an issue I will try to PM one of the members who post in the Alpha cell and ask them or if at most ask them to post it in there so I can get good responses. Opposed to flaming/trolling in here.

I come in here because it’s a good laugh to read. Or to look at pictures of the Bodybuilders that inspire people or me.

(No this is not a plug for Alpha Cell)
-Rob

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.

Feel free to read the last sentence of my post first.

Are you natural? Have you always been natural? Do you intend to stay natural?

Also, the reason I asked your beginning and ending stats (which, by the way, it would’ve been easier for you to simply type the answer than what you wrote) is that I’m curious as to what your average annual bodyweight gain has been. It’s a straightforward question, and you have quite an ego if you think your mere posting about it in some other thread at some other time means, per se, everyone will or should already know that. I’m not aware of everyone’s actions on this site.

From what I gather, you started around age 17 or so and are currently 30-32. If you started around 170, and are now 270, that means you have gained roughly 6-7.5 lbs per year. I realize that there have been fluctuations along the way.

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff.

All you have is almost 30K posts and are a big guy-- I see that in my gym every day.

I have absolutely zero doubt that part of it is the fact that you are encouraged (free supplements? I dunno) by Tim and others to continue the internet persona and lend credibility to the forums. They generate traffic, and just like a good gym you need street cred to generate forum traffic because after all, forum traffic generates $$$$ for the site.

You can start by answering my basic question above regarding time elapsed and weight gain. Then, you can move on to the other stuff if you’d like.

Just bear in mind that you started this fucking thread and in effect called everyone out that you disagree w/…since your trump card is your own progress and acheivements you have put those at issue and so they are fair game.

I do not use steroids. I have bought MAG-10 from this website before though. What does this have to do WITH YOU? It is none of your business what my stats are. That has nothing at all TO DO WITH YOU. What does MY progress have to do with YOUR progress? Jealous?[/quote]

You started the thread! You act like you determine what flies and what doesn’t. Your refusal to answer the questions in my post is telling.

What is your starting age, starting weight, current age and current weight? Why not just answer the question? Makes no sense.

Also, where is the “wheels” shot that everyone but you has to post to have any credibility— all i see are grainy-ass most muscular poses with a wife beater on or a side pose (again w/ no legs) w/ some pretty nice lighting (i.e. low).

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[quote]trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.

Feel free to read the last sentence of my post first.

Are you natural? Have you always been natural? Do you intend to stay natural?

Also, the reason I asked your beginning and ending stats (which, by the way, it would’ve been easier for you to simply type the answer than what you wrote) is that I’m curious as to what your average annual bodyweight gain has been. It’s a straightforward question, and you have quite an ego if you think your mere posting about it in some other thread at some other time means, per se, everyone will or should already know that. I’m not aware of everyone’s actions on this site.

From what I gather, you started around age 17 or so and are currently 30-32. If you started around 170, and are now 270, that means you have gained roughly 6-7.5 lbs per year. I realize that there have been fluctuations along the way.

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff.

All you have is almost 30K posts and are a big guy-- I see that in my gym every day.

I have absolutely zero doubt that part of it is the fact that you are encouraged (free supplements? I dunno) by Tim and others to continue the internet persona and lend credibility to the forums. They generate traffic, and just like a good gym you need street cred to generate forum traffic because after all, forum traffic generates $$$$ for the site.

You can start by answering my basic question above regarding time elapsed and weight gain. Then, you can move on to the other stuff if you’d like.

Just bear in mind that you started this fucking thread and in effect called everyone out that you disagree w/…since your trump card is your own progress and acheivements you have put those at issue and so they are fair game.

I do not use steroids. I have bought MAG-10 from this website before though. What does this have to do WITH YOU? It is none of your business what my stats are. That has nothing at all TO DO WITH YOU. What does MY progress have to do with YOUR progress? Jealous?

You started the thread! You act like you determine what flies and what doesn’t. Your refusal to answer the questions in my post is telling.

What is your starting age, starting weight, current age and current weight? Why not just answer the question? Makes no sense.

Also, where is the “wheels” shot that everyone but you has to post to have any credibility— all i see are grainy-ass most muscular poses with a wife beater on or a side pose (again w/ no legs) w/ some pretty nice lighting (i.e. low).

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I refuse to answer your questions because you are looking to do nothing with it but try to either degrade the progress I have made or to act like I couldn’t have done it. I started this thread as a question of why people who do not like bodybuilding log into bodybuilding threads. Are YOU one of those people?

My progress has nothing to do with YOU. You are just another jealous little whiner who is truly upset that he doesn’t have better genetics…or else none of your questions would matter.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.

Feel free to read the last sentence of my post first.

Are you natural? Have you always been natural? Do you intend to stay natural?

Also, the reason I asked your beginning and ending stats (which, by the way, it would’ve been easier for you to simply type the answer than what you wrote) is that I’m curious as to what your average annual bodyweight gain has been. It’s a straightforward question, and you have quite an ego if you think your mere posting about it in some other thread at some other time means, per se, everyone will or should already know that. I’m not aware of everyone’s actions on this site.

From what I gather, you started around age 17 or so and are currently 30-32. If you started around 170, and are now 270, that means you have gained roughly 6-7.5 lbs per year. I realize that there have been fluctuations along the way.

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff.

All you have is almost 30K posts and are a big guy-- I see that in my gym every day.

I have absolutely zero doubt that part of it is the fact that you are encouraged (free supplements? I dunno) by Tim and others to continue the internet persona and lend credibility to the forums. They generate traffic, and just like a good gym you need street cred to generate forum traffic because after all, forum traffic generates $$$$ for the site.

You can start by answering my basic question above regarding time elapsed and weight gain. Then, you can move on to the other stuff if you’d like.

Just bear in mind that you started this fucking thread and in effect called everyone out that you disagree w/…since your trump card is your own progress and acheivements you have put those at issue and so they are fair game.

I do not use steroids. I have bought MAG-10 from this website before though. What does this have to do WITH YOU? It is none of your business what my stats are. That has nothing at all TO DO WITH YOU. What does MY progress have to do with YOUR progress? Jealous?

You started the thread! You act like you determine what flies and what doesn’t. Your refusal to answer the questions in my post is telling.

What is your starting age, starting weight, current age and current weight? Why not just answer the question? Makes no sense.

Also, where is the “wheels” shot that everyone but you has to post to have any credibility— all i see are grainy-ass most muscular poses with a wife beater on or a side pose (again w/ no legs) w/ some pretty nice lighting (i.e. low).

I refuse to answer your questions because you are looking to do nothing with it but try to either degrade the progress I have made or to act like I couldn’t have done it. I started this thread as a question of why people who do not like bodybuilding log into bodybuilding threads. Are YOU one of those people?

My progress has nothing to do with YOU. You are just another jealous little whiner who is truly upset that he doesn’t have better genetics…or else none of your questions would matter.[/quote]

I’m not trying to degrade anything, just put things in perspective.

My point is you’ve made excellent progress, esp. for a natural guy, but it has taken a lot of time and effort and progress has been, overall, more glacial than perhaps you realize. I read way too many insults towards guys who aren’t heavy or gaining weight fast enough.

I’m happy w/ myself, but not “satisfied” and will keep pushing. Your progress doesn’t have any thing to do w/ me, but it does have something to do w/ this discussion and forum at large.

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[quote]trextacy wrote:

My point is you’ve made excellent progress, esp. for a natural guy, but it has taken a lot of time and effort and progress has been, overall, more glacial than perhaps you realize. I read way too many insults towards guys who aren’t heavy or gaining weight fast enough.

I’m happy w/ myself, but not “satisfied” and will keep pushing. Your progress doesn’t have any thing to do w/ me, but it does have something to do w/ this discussion and forum at large.[/quote]

…and my point is you are a fucking idiot. I gained on average about 20lbs a year for about 3-4 years. Yes, gains slowed down after that but I was already “big” compared to most people so that is to be expected. Most of you here don’t ever seem to even reach that point…aside from the few like “kingbeef” who quit the fucking whining and just do it.

He did it.

I did it.

You can’t do it because it isn’t in you.

Don’t hate me for that. Hate your fucking self.

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[quote]Matthaeus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Matthaeus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
If you actually lift weights to see above average progress, I am not speaking to you.

I just want to know why guys who seem to think everyone really big has a small dick and mother issues come here.

What brings you back to post in forums that clearly involve those who push the limits only to claim that you do NOT have this goal?

What do you get out of it?

Do those who do this actually have the balls to discuss it openly or is troll status the most we can expect?

This thread is kind of like the Obama White House idea to track Americans. Get responses and track people down. But the Constitution prevents Obama from crushing Americans right to free speech and you, dear Prof, don’t have the ‘right’ to shut someone up on these boards.

I thought you became sheriff of the Alpha Cell, so you could have your own protected little world. Why do you bitch and moan out here in Freedom Land?

Way to miss the point completely. He’s inquiring as to why people like you come here for no other reason then to bash people with the goal of looking like a bodybuilder. It’s clear from your post history that not only do you not share this goal u also have little to no respect for anyone who does. According to you if u don’t lift weights with the intention of becoming a “warrior” as you put it, then you shouldn’t even bother lifting weights at all.

Outside of the BB forum your posts are normally devoid of stupidity and ignorance. But the second u come and post in the BB forum it’s like u feel the need to remind everyone that a professional fighter can beat the shit out of a professional bodybuilder. Like anyone with the goal of looking like a bodybuilder even gives a shit anyway.

This is an intelligent post and deserves a similar response.

Prof X and I go back a long way ('02). He absolutely loves to impugn people by default. “You hired a white guy so you must be a racist at heart.” or “You said Tiki Barber is articulate so this means that you think a well-spoken black man is a rarity.” He’s been called on this many times in the PWI forum by numerous members so he doesn’t post there any longer.

And don’t get me started on his thread ‘The Wind’. Jesus…

So I like to piss him off. Yeah, I should probably stop. It is fun though.

So you don’t actually hate bodybuilding/bodybuilders? You only pretend to so u can piss off PX?
And the whole thing about those who don’t lift weights to become “warriors” shouldn’t even lift weights cause there just being “pretenders” is also just to get a rise out of him? Then there’s the time u claimed his Gyno was stubborn fat from over bulking for so many years…

You know he has had you on ignore for a long time so all your posts are falling on deaf ears right? Might be time to let bygones be bygones i think PX is past exchanging insults with you at this point.[/quote]

Oh yeah, I know. I actually admire him for all the work it took to become a surgeon and for being an Air Force officer.

That being said: I am very much for anyone posting whatever they want. If they want to get huge for no reason other than to get people to look at them, fine. But then I have to be free to say that I think building a huge body for no other purpose is emptiness – like building a huge house just to show off to the neighbors.

Freedom is good. Freedom of opinion and expression is good. Saying it, as long as no one is harmed, is good. And no ‘sheriff’ with issues has the right to suppress what anyone writes or says.

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[quote]trextacy wrote:

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff. I’m not flaming you, but try for a minute to look at this from someone else’s point of view.

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LOL!

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[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Stuntman Mike wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman

wonders what the hell that means, then realizes the poster, and it all makes sense

Gotta show folk how to do the damn thing. ;D

Henny:
Hennesy - Wikipedia (Sorry Live its a little bit more pricey than Rite Aid brand vodka)

Snifter:
Snifter - Wikipedia (I prefer the stem less variety)

Sherman:
Nat Sherman - Wikipedia [/quote]

henny is for black people and white people who want to be black.

when you order hennesy people think ‘great im not getting a tip’.

the drink you order says a lot about you.

order a good scotch or whiskey, order a premium vodka. or a premium cognac if thats your thing.

just dont ever order hennesy, especially as a shot.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:

I refuse to answer your questions because you are looking to do nothing with it but try to either degrade the progress I have made or to act like I couldn’t have done it.[/quote]

Is this coming from the same guy who tells everybody that they can’t say shit about biceps unless they post a picture of their biceps? or Can’t talk about training to be a bodybuilder unless they are 250+?

There are plenty of people who boasts their pictures, stats and whatever else they want regardless of whether someone will use the information against them… Besides you do nothing wrong how could anybody possibly degrade you for it?

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:

I refuse to answer your questions because you are looking to do nothing with it but try to either degrade the progress I have made or to act like I couldn’t have done it.

Is this coming from the same guy who tells everybody that they can’t say shit about biceps unless they post a picture of their biceps? or Can’t talk about training to be a bodybuilder unless they are 250+?

There are plenty of people who boasts their pictures, stats and whatever else they want regardless of whether someone will use the information against them… Besides you do nothing wrong how could anybody possibly degrade you for it?[/quote]

Gee, I have pictures from when I first started to last week so what the fuck are you talking about? There are few people on this entire forum who have detailed their progress publicly like I have…yet this still isn’t enough? WTF? Did you really think this through?

Where are any of YOUR pictures?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Airtruth wrote:

I’m here because I rather argue with you that pro’s use steriods, then agree on the quilting forum that sweaters are warm in the winter. What can I say I’m just not interested in warm sweaters.
Don’t worry I also go into superhero forums also and can care less if I’ll ever be able to fly.

Now to the argument,
Can you tell me who these pros with the natural genetics to compete without steriods are?, because all i’ve heard from pro’s who competed and are willing to report back is that a) they all use (even old timers) or b) they don’t want to talk about it ( I guess that means it’s really sensative topic to not use steriods in bodybuilding).

You aren’t even worth the effort. People like you focus on steroids alone when the truth is, there must be millions of people using steroids in excess of what some pros use yet they don’t look like them. Who is walking around stating that pro bodybuilders do not use steroids?

Why even try?[/quote]

Oh so then your saying All of them do use steriods?

Well if you want to start a thread on millions of people using steriods I’ll discuss it at that time. But if I remember correctly, everybody wants to discuss bodybuilding on this forum, but then everybody wants to act like steriods is the least important aspect. Funny how this minor aspect of bodybuilding is something every pro feels the need to use.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:

My point is you’ve made excellent progress, esp. for a natural guy, but it has taken a lot of time and effort and progress has been, overall, more glacial than perhaps you realize. I read way too many insults towards guys who aren’t heavy or gaining weight fast enough.

I’m happy w/ myself, but not “satisfied” and will keep pushing. Your progress doesn’t have any thing to do w/ me, but it does have something to do w/ this discussion and forum at large.

…and my point is you are a fucking idiot. I gained on average about 20lbs a year for about 3-4 years. Yes, gains slowed down after that but I was already “big” compared to most people so that is to be expected. Most of you here don’t ever seem to even reach that point…aside from the few like “kingbeef” who quit the fucking whining and just do it.

He did it.

I did it.

You can’t do it because it isn’t in you.

Don’t hate me for that. Hate your fucking self.[/quote]

except i’m not an idiot, you don’t know anything about me, you just assume (hope) that everyone wishes they could be like you. that isn’t the case.

you are just pissed because you know damn well (and have admitted before- i can find the posts if you like) that most of your early gains were (a) because you were still growing and (b) involved gaining more fat than was desirable or necessary.

of course, you nuance it by saying you are “glad” you did it and spout off shit about weight set points, but the reality is that aside from newb gains, finishing growing, gaining fat, etc. your overall average increases in muscular bodyweight aren’t what you seem to expect from others.

and i don’t hate your or myself- and would not trade brains or bodies with you either.

continue trying to make this personal and be defensive, but again remember YOU STARTED THIS MOTHERFUCKING THREAD AND OTHERS LIKE IT- SO ACT LIKE A MAN.

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Wow…

How has it turned from why people who don’t want to get big, into lets try and belittle the big guy ?

Prof. X has pictures up they are not THAT hard to find, i even saw the one which someone put Mr. T’s head on his body (lol)

Regardless of what it seems a minority think, the man has helped past 1000’s of people of getting out of their own way when it comes to being big.

Trextacy / Airtruth, i have not seen alot of posts by ye, offering to help people or trying to get people to see sense, though you seem to take great offense to Mr. X offering advice.

If you know better then by all means start a topic, if you want i’ll start a “Trextacy How do you train” or “Airtruth how do you train” so you can enlighten us to the error of Prof. X’s ways…

What say you ?

I don’t know the man from adam, obviously you cannot as it’s the Internet, what i DO know is if i have a question and PM him he will give me an answer that i can trust 100% along with other people here as he / they are big, so if you feel you can also offer advice that can be trusted then by all means post some pictures so we may know that you look the part you are putting out there that you know all about.

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Wonders how big Kingbeefs penis is