WHY Are You In This Forum?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Matthaeus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
If you actually lift weights to see above average progress, I am not speaking to you.

I just want to know why guys who seem to think everyone really big has a small dick and mother issues come here.

What brings you back to post in forums that clearly involve those who push the limits only to claim that you do NOT have this goal?

What do you get out of it?

Do those who do this actually have the balls to discuss it openly or is troll status the most we can expect?

This thread is kind of like the Obama White House idea to track Americans. Get responses and track people down. But the Constitution prevents Obama from crushing Americans right to free speech and you, dear Prof, don’t have the ‘right’ to shut someone up on these boards.

I thought you became sheriff of the Alpha Cell, so you could have your own protected little world. Why do you bitch and moan out here in Freedom Land?

Way to miss the point completely. He’s inquiring as to why people like you come here for no other reason then to bash people with the goal of looking like a bodybuilder. It’s clear from your post history that not only do you not share this goal u also have little to no respect for anyone who does. According to you if u don’t lift weights with the intention of becoming a “warrior” as you put it, then you shouldn’t even bother lifting weights at all.

Outside of the BB forum your posts are normally devoid of stupidity and ignorance. But the second u come and post in the BB forum it’s like u feel the need to remind everyone that a professional fighter can beat the shit out of a professional bodybuilder. Like anyone with the goal of looking like a bodybuilder even gives a shit anyway.

This is an intelligent post and deserves a similar response.

Prof X and I go back a long way ('02). He absolutely loves to impugn people by default. “You hired a white guy so you must be a racist at heart.” or “You said Tiki Barber is articulate so this means that you think a well-spoken black man is a rarity.” He’s been called on this many times in the PWI forum by numerous members so he doesn’t post there any longer.

And don’t get me started on his thread ‘The Wind’. Jesus…

So I like to piss him off. Yeah, I should probably stop. It is fun though.

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So you don’t actually hate bodybuilding/bodybuilders? You only pretend to so u can piss off PX?
And the whole thing about those who don’t lift weights to become “warriors” shouldn’t even lift weights cause there just being “pretenders” is also just to get a rise out of him? Then there’s the time u claimed his Gyno was stubborn fat from over bulking for so many years…

You know he has had you on ignore for a long time so all your posts are falling on deaf ears right? Might be time to let bygones be bygones i think PX is past exchanging insults with you at this point.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Prof X and I go back a long way ('02). He absolutely loves to impugn people by default. “You hired a white guy so you must be a racist at heart.” or “You said Tiki Barber is articulate so this means that you think a well-spoken black man is a rarity.” He’s been called on this many times in the PWI forum by numerous members so he doesn’t post there any longer.

And don’t get me started on his thread ‘The Wind’. Jesus…

So I like to piss him off. Yeah, I should probably stop. It is fun though.

[/quote]

Aren’t you the guy that was saying that calisthenics will make you bigger than weights? So you just said that to piss X off?

Sense. That doesn’t make any.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
If you actually lift weights to see above average progress, I am not speaking to you.

I just want to know why guys who seem to think everyone really big has a small dick and mother issues come here.

What brings you back to post in forums that clearly involve those who push the limits only to claim that you do NOT have this goal?

What do you get out of it?

Do those who do this actually have the balls to discuss it openly or is troll status the most we can expect?

This thread is kind of like the Obama White House idea to track Americans. Get responses and track people down. But the Constitution prevents Obama from crushing Americans right to free speech and you, dear Prof, don’t have the ‘right’ to shut someone up on these boards.

I thought you became sheriff of the Alpha Cell, so you could have your own protected little world. Why do you bitch and moan out here in Freedom Land?

HH You’re always poppin’ up everywhere out of no where like that fuckin’ squirrel. Is that you HH?

What you guys have to get is that Prof X has been ‘lamenting’ all this since 2002. He LOVES this kind of stuff. Even giving him his own ‘toy’ (the Alpha Cell) where he could kick out people he hates didn’t shut him up.

He’s so ez to fire up that it IS kinda fun. Try it and see.

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I really, really wish I could work up a good crap and care about what you think, but it isn’t even close to being worth it.

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I got no place else ta gooooooooooooooooooo!

(anybody remember Officer & a Gentleman?)

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[quote]taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *[/quote]

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman

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[quote]AHA wrote:
I think it would help if there was a forum for Crossfit type training. It could be called General Fitness or something like that. As it stands now, I often find that all of the 3 main ones (Strength, BB, Combat) are a bad fit for some of the threads I want to post. And Off Topic is a last resort that you want to avoid.

Just my 0.02 euros… :slight_smile:
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I got a laugh out of crossfit when I first opened an Ironmind catalog. Take a look at the crossfit ‘champion’ compared to the strongman competitors, oly lifters, and highland games athletes on the same page.

Then explain to me exactly what the point of crossfit is, if their ‘champion’ has a physique like that. And you want an entire forum dedicated to doing kipped pullups faster?

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[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman [/quote]

wonders what the hell that means, then realizes the poster, and it all makes sense

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[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman

wonders what the hell that means, then realizes the poster, and it all makes sense
[/quote]

That made me laugh out loud.

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[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman

wonders what the hell that means, then realizes the poster, and it all makes sense
[/quote]

snifter is a type of glass. Henny is a type of garbage.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
If you actually lift weights to see above average progress, I am not speaking to you.

I just want to know why guys who seem to think everyone really big has a small dick and mother issues come here.

What brings you back to post in forums that clearly involve those who push the limits only to claim that you do NOT have this goal?

What do you get out of it?

Do those who do this actually have the balls to discuss it openly or is troll status the most we can expect?

This thread is kind of like the Obama White House idea to track Americans. Get responses and track people down. But the Constitution prevents Obama from crushing Americans right to free speech and you, dear Prof, don’t have the ‘right’ to shut someone up on these boards.

I thought you became sheriff of the Alpha Cell, so you could have your own protected little world. Why do you bitch and moan out here in Freedom Land?
[/quote]

Ummm

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[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman

wonders what the hell that means, then realizes the poster, and it all makes sense
[/quote]

Gotta show folk how to do the damn thing. ;D

Henny:
Hennesy - Wikipedia (Sorry Live its a little bit more pricey than Rite Aid brand vodka)

Snifter:
Snifter - Wikipedia (I prefer the stem less variety)

Sherman:

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
If you actually lift weights to see above average progress, I am not speaking to you.

I just want to know why guys who seem to think everyone really big has a small dick and mother issues come here.

What brings you back to post in forums that clearly involve those who push the limits only to claim that you do NOT have this goal?

What do you get out of it?

Do those who do this actually have the balls to discuss it openly or is troll status the most we can expect?

This thread is kind of like the Obama White House idea to track Americans. Get responses and track people down. But the Constitution prevents Obama from crushing Americans right to free speech and you, dear Prof, don’t have the ‘right’ to shut someone up on these boards.

I thought you became sheriff of the Alpha Cell, so you could have your own protected little world. Why do you bitch and moan out here in Freedom Land?
[/quote]

Just as expected - The little dick responded.

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[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Stuntman Mike wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
taleb wrote:

  • grabs popcorn *

sits down with a snifter of Henny and lights up a Sherman

wonders what the hell that means, then realizes the poster, and it all makes sense

Gotta show folk how to do the damn thing. ;D

Henny:
Hennesy - Wikipedia (Sorry Live its a little bit more pricey than Rite Aid brand vodka)

Snifter:
Snifter - Wikipedia (I prefer the stem less variety)

Sherman:
Nat Sherman - Wikipedia [/quote]

Aaahh got it now. Keep on keepin on broseph

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I want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club

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I wonder if a thread should be started in GAL that lists all trolls, so the uninitiated can reference it.

Better yet start one in the Alpha.

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My 13yo son has bigger guns than Pitt did in that flick. :wink:

DH

[quote]shoobey wrote:
I want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club[/quote]

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Yup.

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  1. I am in this forum because I like the people, the advice and seeing people achieve their goals (or learning from failures). Generally, it’s a great resource w/ great people.

  2. Generally, the lamenting that goes on is a waste of time and says more about the person posting than the subject about which they lament.

  3. There needs to be more (a) posting about bodybuilding than (b) posting about posting about bodybuilding.

  4. 80% (warning: made up statistic) of the time this is a SEMANTIC discussion- IOW, it’s merely arguments about what is embraced/described by the word “bodybuilding”.

  5. MY GRIPE w/ some people who are “hardcore” around here is the fact that EVERYTHING is skewed by the drug use that is rampant in the sport. The reality is that our perception about what constitutes big, well-conditioned, strong, etc. has been skewed to the point that people who make fantastic progress (e.g. 15 lbs of muscle in a year with little fat gain) are seen as pussies who aren’t eating enough. Adding 35 lean pounds of muscle over 5-7 years may not be that bad in terms of progress. I frequently read things like “come back when you’ve gained 20 lbs”-- well, that could be 2 years unless the person wants half their new weight to be fat, so that advice is shitty and creates the perception among impressionable newbs that they need to gain weight faster than they really need to.

Please don’t drill me on the numbers I’m using…I’m just using those examples to illustrate an overall point. For natural trainees, I do believe that different eating habits and training protocols may be more optimal. So, when Flex Wheeler or Branch Warren’s training routine/intensity are discussed, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. At the same time, the tired old chestnut of “this shit has worked for pros for decades, why are you making it so complicated” IS NOT very helpful to most people.

So, to summarize- it’s the insistence that how the pros train, eat, recover, etc. is the end all, w/o at least acknowledging that their approach works particularly well due to drugs is to turn a blind eye to a key component of their overall approach and successs. I don’t think a natural trainee w/ something other than elite genetics should eat/train like a pro.

That doesn’t make me anti-bodybuilding. Niether does my belief that newbs are tending to pack on too much fat in their pursuit of mass than they need to be, and that’s a direct result of certain people preaching their gospel of weight gain. I realize newbs’ reading comprehension abilities are partially to blame.

Remember, size impresses, conditioning wins contests.

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[quote]trextacy wrote:

  1. I am in this forum because I like the people, the advice and seeing people achieve their goals (or learning from failures). Generally, it’s a great resource w/ great people.

  2. Generally, the lamenting that goes on is a waste of time and says more about the person posting than the subject about which they lament.

  3. There needs to be more (a) posting about bodybuilding than (b) posting about posting about bodybuilding.

  4. 80% (warning: made up statistic) of the time this is a SEMANTIC discussion- IOW, it’s merely arguments about what is embraced/described by the word “bodybuilding”.

  5. MY GRIPE w/ some people who are “hardcore” around here is the fact that EVERYTHING is skewed by the drug use that is rampant in the sport. The reality is that our perception about what constitutes big, well-conditioned, strong, etc. has been skewed to the point that people who make fantastic progress (e.g. 15 lbs of muscle in a year with little fat gain) are seen as pussies who aren’t eating enough. Adding 35 lean pounds of muscle over 5-7 years may not be that bad in terms of progress. I frequently read things like “come back when you’ve gained 20 lbs”-- well, that could be 2 years unless the person wants half their new weight to be fat, so that advice is shitty and creates the perception among impressionable newbs that they need to gain weight faster than they really need to.

Please don’t drill me on the numbers I’m using…I’m just using those examples to illustrate an overall point. For natural trainees, I do believe that different eating habits and training protocols may be more optimal. So, when Flex Wheeler or Branch Warren’s training routine/intensity are discussed, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. At the same time, the tired old chestnut of “this shit has worked for pros for decades, why are you making it so complicated” IS NOT very helpful to most people.

So, to summarize- it’s the insistence that how the pros train, eat, recover, etc. is the end all, w/o at least acknowledging that their approach works particularly well due to drugs is to turn a blind eye to a key component of their overall approach and successs. I don’t think a natural trainee w/ something other than elite genetics should eat/train like a pro.

That doesn’t make me anti-bodybuilding. Niether does my belief that newbs are tending to pack on too much fat in their pursuit of mass than they need to be, and that’s a direct result of certain people preaching their gospel of weight gain. I realize newbs’ reading comprehension abilities are partially to blame.

Remember, size impresses, conditioning wins contests.

[/quote]

Fact:
Some people have the genetics for this.

Fact:
Some people do not have the genetics for this.

Fact:
People who do not have the genetics for this can potentially slow down the progress of those who do by claiming everything needs to be toned down for those who achieve least.

Fact:
This activity is not for those with the weakest genetic potential.

It is not unbelievable for someone to gain 20lbs of mostly muscle (if not all) in a year even after newbie gains have gone. “Kingbeef” on this site just proved that which means he has the genetics for this. If YOU alone do not, do not expect the rest of us to dull down our discussions for you. That is illogical.

The first year I started lifting, I put on over 20lbs in one semester with most of it being muscle mass (I say most because I did not get any measurements done aside from body weight but I did not get noticeably fatter). By the end of that year I was up nearly 40lbs hitting 190 for the first time with a little more body fat on me (I may have gained too quickly but I sure as hell wouldn’t go back and change it because it worked in the long run). If YOU can not do the same, then you need to adjust things for you but quit trying to claim our expectations are too high or that our views are skewed. Of course they are skewed to someone who does not have the same potential or the same goals because the chances of you doing similar may be less.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:

  1. I am in this forum because I like the people, the advice and seeing people achieve their goals (or learning from failures). Generally, it’s a great resource w/ great people.

  2. Generally, the lamenting that goes on is a waste of time and says more about the person posting than the subject about which they lament.

  3. There needs to be more (a) posting about bodybuilding than (b) posting about posting about bodybuilding.

  4. 80% (warning: made up statistic) of the time this is a SEMANTIC discussion- IOW, it’s merely arguments about what is embraced/described by the word “bodybuilding”.

  5. MY GRIPE w/ some people who are “hardcore” around here is the fact that EVERYTHING is skewed by the drug use that is rampant in the sport. The reality is that our perception about what constitutes big, well-conditioned, strong, etc. has been skewed to the point that people who make fantastic progress (e.g. 15 lbs of muscle in a year with little fat gain) are seen as pussies who aren’t eating enough. Adding 35 lean pounds of muscle over 5-7 years may not be that bad in terms of progress. I frequently read things like “come back when you’ve gained 20 lbs”-- well, that could be 2 years unless the person wants half their new weight to be fat, so that advice is shitty and creates the perception among impressionable newbs that they need to gain weight faster than they really need to.

Please don’t drill me on the numbers I’m using…I’m just using those examples to illustrate an overall point. For natural trainees, I do believe that different eating habits and training protocols may be more optimal. So, when Flex Wheeler or Branch Warren’s training routine/intensity are discussed, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. At the same time, the tired old chestnut of “this shit has worked for pros for decades, why are you making it so complicated” IS NOT very helpful to most people.

So, to summarize- it’s the insistence that how the pros train, eat, recover, etc. is the end all, w/o at least acknowledging that their approach works particularly well due to drugs is to turn a blind eye to a key component of their overall approach and successs. I don’t think a natural trainee w/ something other than elite genetics should eat/train like a pro.

That doesn’t make me anti-bodybuilding. Niether does my belief that newbs are tending to pack on too much fat in their pursuit of mass than they need to be, and that’s a direct result of certain people preaching their gospel of weight gain. I realize newbs’ reading comprehension abilities are partially to blame.

Remember, size impresses, conditioning wins contests.

Fact:
Some people have the genetics for this.

Fact:
Some people do not have the genetics for this.

Fact:
People who do not have the genetics for this can potentially slow down the progress of those who do by claiming everything needs to be toned down for those who achieve least.

Fact:
This activity is not for those with the weakest genetic potential.

It is not unbelievable for someone to gain 20lbs of mostly muscle (if not all) in a year even after newbie gains have gone. “Kingbeef” on this site just proved that which means he has the genetics for this. If YOU alone do not, do not expect the rest of us to dull down our discussions for you. That is illogical.

The first year I started lifting, I put on over 20lbs in one semester with most of it being muscle mass (I say most because I did not get any measurements done aside from body weight but I did not get noticeably fatter). By the end of that year I was up nearly 40lbs hitting 190 for the first time with a little more body fat on me (I may have gained too quickly but I sure as hell wouldn’t go back and change it because it worked in the long run). If YOU can not do the same, then you need to adjust things for you but quit trying to claim our expectations are too high or that our views are skewed. Of course they are skewed to someone who does not have the same potential or the same goals because the chances of you doing similar may be less.[/quote]

I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?