Very interesting from Thrib as you guys say. Ironically, (before I read his posts) I was going to tell you to try anti-oxidants, because by default I think I may have discovered that this is the key to less soreness…
Let me divulge…
Ok, usually I consume the normal pre/post workout protocol, whether that’s Surge or similar recovery products from other companies (shall remain nameless). Anyway, a few weeks ago I ran out of supps and since I had stacks of tuna in the cupboard and countless bags of frozen berries & pineapple in the freezer, I decided I’d just chug down a combo of the two before and after the gym (oh yeh it taste’s like crap - but I don’t care about that!).
Well, I have to say that the results have been very impressive, so much so that I’m now questioning most long-term use of traditional supps (I will of course ditch the tuna for whey!). What really interests me is that in theory the sugars in the pineapple/mixed berries shouldn’t be optimal for recovery because it’s mostly fructose (correct me if I’m wrong)…but this is working! I trained last night and did PB’s in the deadlift and push presses and I’m not aching at all (p.s last night was exclusively pineapple and tuna pre/post training).
I’m very interested in the pineapple because of the bromelain which is purported to clean up muscle debris and reduce inflammation. I’m going to try a combination of pineapple and dark berries. I’ve always suffered from poor recovery, this could do the trick (p.s - the future of post workout drinks - could it be more natural?).
I sometimes get “knots” in my back…“knot” is the term that a messuese(sp?) uses. I asked my doctor what they were exactly and he told me that they were a buildup of lactic acid. This caused the pain and soreness I was experiencing.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
wow i guess ive never taken 85% my bodyweight in protein anytime ive trained then. i wonder how my lifts keep going up?[/quote]
I am referring to seriously bad DOMS not the regular soreness you get from a good workout. As I said your mileage may vary.
[quote]evo2008 wrote:
Very interesting from Thrib as you guys say. Ironically, (before I read his posts) I was going to tell you to try anti-oxidants, because by default I think I may have discovered that this is the key to less soreness…
Let me divulge…
Ok, usually I consume the normal pre/post workout protocol, whether that’s Surge or similar recovery products from other companies (shall remain nameless). Anyway, a few weeks ago I ran out of supps and since I had stacks of tuna in the cupboard and countless bags of frozen berries & pineapple in the freezer, I decided I’d just chug down a combo of the two before and after the gym (oh yeh it taste’s like crap - but I don’t care about that!).
Well, I have to say that the results have been very impressive, so much so that I’m now questioning most long-term use of traditional supps (I will of course ditch the tuna for whey!). What really interests me is that in theory the sugars in the pineapple/mixed berries shouldn’t be optimal for recovery because it’s mostly fructose (correct me if I’m wrong)…but this is working! I trained last night and did PB’s in the deadlift and push presses and I’m not aching at all (p.s last night was exclusively pineapple and tuna pre/post training).
I’m very interested in the pineapple because of the bromelain which is purported to clean up muscle debris and reduce inflammation. I’m going to try a combination of pineapple and dark berries. I’ve always suffered from poor recovery, this could do the trick (p.s - the future of post workout drinks - could it be more natural?).
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
I also suggest that you go read:
It gives a complete description of what causes DOMS.[/quote]
Christian, many thanks for all these references, especially this book (at least, the pages that are available to view free). These posts by you fit the “bodybuilding think-tank” mode nicely.
Also, I really appreciate Dirty Gerdy for asking for references. He has a habit of doing this, and I have never seen anyone respond with such a heap of on-point stuff. Thank you both.
This makes good reading matter today as I sit at my desk with my quads screaming from squats two days ago.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
wow i guess ive never taken 85% my bodyweight in protein anytime ive trained then. i wonder how my lifts keep going up?[/quote]
HAHAHHA I just realized what I posted… I meant to say 85% of 1g / lb of bodyweight.