1gram per lb of body weight protein intake?
Squat increase testosterone?
Overtraining doesn’t exist?
[quote]Justliftbrah wrote:
1gram per lb of body weight protein intake?
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Not a myth, but a good recommendation that has been shown to work.
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Squat increase testosterone? [/quote]
They do, but the increase is so transient and negligible that it’s not even worth mentioning.
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Overtraining doesn’t exist?[/quote]
Yes, a myth, a ridiculous one. People have overtrained. Then we’ll get the whole “yes, but REAL overtraining takes so much damage over so much time that most will never experience it.”
Well, people have experienced it, as well as experienced “accumulation of fatigue”. I like the term overtrained whether it fits or not. If I do too much volume with too much intensity for too long, I will feel like shit, which is what I call overtraining.
Overtraining=feeling like shit from doing too much or pushing things too hard for too long.
We’ll also get “Why are you WORRYING about overtraining. Most of da skinny guys in da gym aren’t trying so hard to experience it. So why mention it?”
My reply: “Who the hell is worrying? We’re just talking about it.”
Not a myth but I do feel sleep is overrated when it comes to bodybuilding. I used to freak out if I did not get ten hours of sleep and now if I can’t get at least eight hours I don’t freak out and fear the world will end.
Yeah, much of those listed in the OP are actually not bad suggestions for the most part, but there are tons of “advices” that people throw out that in my PERSONAL opinion (always gotta have a disclaimer on here -lol) should not be taken as such, and may not always be the case.
-"Getting stronger will always result in increased size. " Yes, most will agree that a larger muscle will typically be a stronger one (all else being completely equal of course), but in reality, you can train specifically for one of the other and have your results display very little else. Best thing I ever did for my bodybuilding was to stop trying to get stronger all the time, and worry more about other variables in my training.
-“Look at what the ‘big guys’ are doing.” Yes this might ruffle a few feathers, but a better way to word this is to look at what the more normally developed or moreso smaller guys did, and how it worked out for them. Despite the bogus articles attributed to him in Flex magazine, Dorian Yates always said that people shouldn’t look to him for advice on Calf training solely because his responded easily and in all likelihood they would have been well developed no matter what he did. Also of note with this one is the fact that basing anything only on what you see a few odd people doing in your gym (or claiming in BS magazine articles) each week, for maybe an hour or two, and not seeing or considering what goes on the other 22-23 hours of each day, is ignoring a hell of a lot of factors.
S
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Yes, a myth, a ridiculous one. People have overtrained. Then we’ll get the whole “yes, but REAL overtraining takes so much damage over so much time that most will never experience it.”
Well, people have experienced it, as well as experienced “accumulation of fatigue”. I like the term overtrained whether it fits or not. If I do too much volume with too much intensity for too long, I will feel like shit, which is what I call overtraining.
Overtraining=feeling like shit from doing too much or pushing things too hard for too long. [/quote]
IMO, it’s important to point to the primary flaw to the underlying logic of the “there is no overtraining just underrecovering”:
Recovery is a combination of rest and nutrition. People treat this as if it is a basic mathematical equation whereby some combination of the two factors can add up to whatever recovery “amount” is needed. What they don’t realize (or just don’t acknowledge) is that rest and nutrition are not fungible between themselves and that there is a hard cap on the amount of rest we can get. There are only 24 hours in a day, despite the fact that we can eat up to a very high (and totally unnecessary) threshold in the name of recovery.
Like Stu mentioned, I will preface this with a “it’s only my opinion, not necessarily the word of God,” but I think the idea of one gram of protein per pound bw is somewhat overstated. I definitely agree that the average person on the street doesn’t get as much protein as they should.
However, IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I have not noticed any discernible loss of strength or muscle size between periods when my protein intake is at that level or when it was in the range of 0.5-0.75 grams per lb bw. I agree that having a target range is good to keep people focused on their nutrition and conscious of how much protein they are consuming but, when one gets above 200 lbs, it can easily get to the point where to consume that much protein, you are inadvertently consuming a higher than desired amount of additional calories which can negatively affect body composition.
At the higher levels of bodybuilding and strength sports, such a level of protein consumption probably is necessary but, for the recreational lifter, I don’t think it is as important. Heresy, I know, but, just my humble opinion.
[quote]CMdad wrote:
Like Stu mentioned, I will preface this with a “it’s only my opinion, not necessarily the word of God,” but I think the idea of one gram of protein per pound bw is somewhat overstated. I definitely agree that the average person on the street doesn’t get as much protein as they should. However, IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I have not noticed any discernible loss of strength or muscle size between periods when my protein intake is at that level or when it was in the range of 0.5-0.75 grams per lb bw. I agree that having a target range is good to keep people focused on their nutrition and conscious of how much protein they are consuming but, when one gets above 200 lbs, it can easily get to the point where to consume that much protein, you are inadvertently consuming a higher than desired amount of additional calories which can negatively affect body composition. At the higher levels of bodybuilding and strength sports, such a level of protein consumption probably is necessary but, for the recreational lifter, I don’t think it is as important. Heresy, I know, but, just my humble opinion.
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Yeah I completely agree with this. Everyone is probably a bit different but for me personally I think I’m good so long as I get over 150g protein a day (BW around 215lbs). I don’t notice any improvements in body composition if I go above it (and I’d rather have the calories spare), but I know I get worse if I go much below it.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]CMdad wrote:
Like Stu mentioned, I will preface this with a “it’s only my opinion, not necessarily the word of God,” but I think the idea of one gram of protein per pound bw is somewhat overstated. I definitely agree that the average person on the street doesn’t get as much protein as they should. However, IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I have not noticed any discernible loss of strength or muscle size between periods when my protein intake is at that level or when it was in the range of 0.5-0.75 grams per lb bw. I agree that having a target range is good to keep people focused on their nutrition and conscious of how much protein they are consuming but, when one gets above 200 lbs, it can easily get to the point where to consume that much protein, you are inadvertently consuming a higher than desired amount of additional calories which can negatively affect body composition. At the higher levels of bodybuilding and strength sports, such a level of protein consumption probably is necessary but, for the recreational lifter, I don’t think it is as important. Heresy, I know, but, just my humble opinion.
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Yeah I completely agree with this. Everyone is probably a bit different but for me personally I think I’m good so long as I get over 150g protein a day (BW around 215lbs). I don’t notice any improvements in body composition if I go above it (and I’d rather have the calories spare), but I know I get worse if I go much below it.
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I agree with this to a degree, but I feel it’s more for those who are:
- eating a lot of carbs (more than just 1g per pound of BW)
- higher bf (12% or more I guess)
This is probably most people on the forums though
“Don’t spend longer than an hour in the gym”
Rubbish, at least for me. But then different strokes for different folks.
The only lift for big legs is the squat.
[quote]Mina293 wrote:
The only lift for big legs is the squat.[/quote]
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You are all right
Its 1.25-1.75g of protein per lb that ppl should be getting 
[quote]zraw wrote:
You are all right
Its 1.25-1.75g of protein per lb that ppl should be getting :D[/quote]
Holy fuking shit
“Your body can’t absorb XX amounts of protein per serving”
You’re not wasting aminos eating a large protein meal in a serving. Those aminos will be shuttled into your system over time. They don’t just get stuck in the liver.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
“Your body can’t absorb XX amounts of protein per serving”
You’re not wasting aminos eating a large protein meal in a serving. Those aminos will be shuttled into your system over time. They don’t just get stuck in the liver.[/quote]
Lol, yeah, this one gets floated all over. Yes, I believe that if you’re 150 lbs, trying to eat 300g of protein at one sitting may not be the best approach. How can anyone suggest that a monster like Ronnie Coleman is absorbing the same amount of protein each sitting as little old me?
Also, you’ve always got a certain amount circulating in a pool to be available in addition to stored away if not used. It’s not a simple ‘use it now or get rid of it’ process.
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Surprised no on mentioned the whole abstaining from cardio because its gonna cut into the gainz by using calories that could be used for muscle building.
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Surprised no on mentioned the whole abstaining from cardio because its gonna cut into the gainz by using calories that could be used for muscle building.[/quote]
If you have a fast metabolism, that actually may hold true for some people.
[quote]A-rod wrote:
Surprised no on mentioned the whole abstaining from cardio because its gonna cut into the gainz by using calories that could be used for muscle building.[/quote]
This happens to me. Even 30 minutes light walking EOD somehow hinders my weight gain. Not stops it entirely, but cuts off a decent 30-40%.
Not really an internet myth per se, but I’ve always wondered about Lonnie Lowrey (whom I trust implicitly) saying that he believes a person can build gigantic legs with between 300 and 400 pounds on squat. Also, and relatedly, that legs are a more “genetically determined” bodypart aesthetically than others.