[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]crossfit_infidel wrote:
what the hell does planet fitness have anything to do with this…crossfit is on the other side of the spectrum from a gym like planet fitness…I would think we could atleast agree on this[/quote]
Nah… Crossfit and Planet Fitness are kinda like Stalin and Hitler. Different ends of the spectrum maybe, and they hate each other, but I hate both of them.
America rules.[/quote]
This is awesome!
[quote]crossfit_infidel wrote:
I thought we were talking about a community full of alpha types? [/quote]
No, we were talking about Crossfit. ZING!
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
Just think of the distance the bar would have to travel for just one Jerry Rice Thruster, His Fran time would be HORRIBLE, which obviously means he is a huge pussy:)
As for that absolute ridiculous rant above, its hard to know where to start.
People I have seen who implement CF include 160 lb powerlifters with an over 600 lb deadlift, ex football players, strongmen, Rugby players. All have improved strength and fitnes levels simultaneously
No periodization. So what, plenty of shit isnt periodized. Alot of athletic trainers dont rely on periodization anymore. It also doesnt mean that the sequence of workouts is random shit pulled out of someones ass. It is sometimes, but doesnt have to be.
This overly agressive and irrational rant is why most people assume that anybody with a decent build is using, because half of them walk around acting like they are fucking silverback gorillas or something.
I assume he is big because honestly, why else would complete strangers approach him to solict or offer fitness advice.
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“No periodization. So What, plenty of shit isnt periodized” - Like Planet Fitness?
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Before posting you need to
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
Just think of the distance the bar would have to travel for just one Jerry Rice Thruster, His Fran time would be HORRIBLE, which obviously means he is a huge pussy:)
As for that absolute ridiculous rant above, its hard to know where to start.
People I have seen who implement CF include 160 lb powerlifters with an over 600 lb deadlift, ex football players, strongmen, Rugby players. All have improved strength and fitnes levels simultaneously
No periodization. So what, plenty of shit isnt periodized. Alot of athletic trainers dont rely on periodization anymore. It also doesnt mean that the sequence of workouts is random shit pulled out of someones ass. It is sometimes, but doesnt have to be.
This overly agressive and irrational rant is why most people assume that anybody with a decent build is using, because half of them walk around acting like they are fucking silverback gorillas or something.
I assume he is big because honestly, why else would complete strangers approach him to solict or offer fitness advice.
[/quote]
“No periodization. So What, plenty of shit isnt periodized” - Like Planet Fitness?
[/quote]
Before posting you need to
Find out the definition of periodization. Most shit is not really periodization., even if someone chooses to call it that.
Find out a bit more about Crossfit and how easily you can implement a tool like periodization into your Crossfit training if desired.
Stop hitching on your deadlift so bad that you look like a fucking camel. [/quote]
Periodization - A structured training program, organized into specific training blocks, used to accomplish a goal. There are linear and non linear periodization approaches, which approach you use is dictated by sport, how your Macro is organized, and your knowledge of training. Linear is an old school (pretty outdated western approach) while non linear is more suited for athletes trying to maintain peak performance in season. You could get even more technical and break it down into specific training methods, such as Conjugate, Tier, Eastern Block, Poliquin Principles etc. A periodization model consists of a Macro cycle, Mesocycles and Microcycles. The Macro is the skeleton you use to lay out your program in the generally year based approach. Meso’s are anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months of a training program used to attain a specific training goal (hypertrophy, endurance, strength, power) while Micro’s are the 1-7 day blocks in your Meso.
Cross fit is a joke. It doesn’t have a Macro or Meso approach to training. You go to a weekend seminar, get certified, and pull WODs off a national website. This is another reason I hate crossfit. You are a joke to the industry. 90% of you are uneducated and pull your “wods” off of a national website. When I compare crossfit to planet fitness it is because you both don’t use any form of a periodization approach. You say “so what a lot of shit isn’t periodized.” Well take some pride in your career and learn to program. The people who know how to train and get results use periodization. People who are lazy or uneducated don’t.
I know alot more about crossfit (pros & cons) than alot of you crossfitters.
Got 3 whites on that deadlift.
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
Just think of the distance the bar would have to travel for just one Jerry Rice Thruster, His Fran time would be HORRIBLE, which obviously means he is a huge pussy:)
As for that absolute ridiculous rant above, its hard to know where to start.
People I have seen who implement CF include 160 lb powerlifters with an over 600 lb deadlift, ex football players, strongmen, Rugby players. All have improved strength and fitnes levels simultaneously
No periodization. So what, plenty of shit isnt periodized. Alot of athletic trainers dont rely on periodization anymore. It also doesnt mean that the sequence of workouts is random shit pulled out of someones ass. It is sometimes, but doesnt have to be.
This overly agressive and irrational rant is why most people assume that anybody with a decent build is using, because half of them walk around acting like they are fucking silverback gorillas or something.
I assume he is big because honestly, why else would complete strangers approach him to solict or offer fitness advice.
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“No periodization. So What, plenty of shit isnt periodized” - Like Planet Fitness?
[/quote]
Before posting you need to
Find out the definition of periodization. Most shit is not really periodization., even if someone chooses to call it that.
Find out a bit more about Crossfit and how easily you can implement a tool like periodization into your Crossfit training if desired.
Stop hitching on your deadlift so bad that you look like a fucking camel. [/quote]
Periodization - A structured training program, organized into specific training blocks, used to accomplish a goal. There are linear and non linear periodization approaches, which approach you use is dictated by sport, how your Macro is organized, and your knowledge of training. Linear is an old school (pretty outdated western approach) while non linear is more suited for athletes trying to maintain peak performance in season. You could get even more technical and break it down into specific training methods, such as Conjugate, Tier, Eastern Block, Poliquin Principles etc. A periodization model consists of a Macro cycle, Mesocycles and Microcycles. The Macro is the skeleton you use to lay out your program in the generally year based approach. Meso’s are anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months of a training program used to attain a specific training goal (hypertrophy, endurance, strength, power) while Micro’s are the 1-7 day blocks in your Meso.
Cross fit is a joke. It doesn’t have a Macro or Meso approach to training. You go to a weekend seminar, get certified, and pull WODs off a national website. This is another reason I hate crossfit. You are a joke to the industry. 90% of you are uneducated and pull your “wods” off of a national website. When I compare crossfit to planet fitness it is because you both don’t use any form of a periodization approach. You say “so what a lot of shit isn’t periodized.” Well take some pride in your career and learn to program. The people who know how to train and get results use periodization. People who are lazy or uneducated don’t.
I know alot more about crossfit (pros & cons) than alot of you crossfitters.
Got 3 whites on that deadlift. [/quote]
Great you can read and post a bunch of shit…what industry are you talking about? And your comment about taking pride in a career…I’m not sure what you meant with that either? Sounds like you know everything and got it all figured out…The funny thing is most crossfitters don’t care to be good at just powerlifting or oly lifting, they are more into being well rounded and if done correctly it works…you can post on all your reasons why don’t like the color red it doesn’t make a difference…Crossfit works for most people unless your an elite athlete and need specialized training.
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
Just think of the distance the bar would have to travel for just one Jerry Rice Thruster, His Fran time would be HORRIBLE, which obviously means he is a huge pussy:)
As for that absolute ridiculous rant above, its hard to know where to start.
People I have seen who implement CF include 160 lb powerlifters with an over 600 lb deadlift, ex football players, strongmen, Rugby players. All have improved strength and fitnes levels simultaneously
No periodization. So what, plenty of shit isnt periodized. Alot of athletic trainers dont rely on periodization anymore. It also doesnt mean that the sequence of workouts is random shit pulled out of someones ass. It is sometimes, but doesnt have to be.
This overly agressive and irrational rant is why most people assume that anybody with a decent build is using, because half of them walk around acting like they are fucking silverback gorillas or something.
I assume he is big because honestly, why else would complete strangers approach him to solict or offer fitness advice.
[/quote]
“No periodization. So What, plenty of shit isnt periodized” - Like Planet Fitness?
[/quote]
Before posting you need to
Find out the definition of periodization. Most shit is not really periodization., even if someone chooses to call it that.
Find out a bit more about Crossfit and how easily you can implement a tool like periodization into your Crossfit training if desired.
Stop hitching on your deadlift so bad that you look like a fucking camel. [/quote]
Periodization - A structured training program, organized into specific training blocks, used to accomplish a goal. There are linear and non linear periodization approaches, which approach you use is dictated by sport, how your Macro is organized, and your knowledge of training. Linear is an old school (pretty outdated western approach) while non linear is more suited for athletes trying to maintain peak performance in season. You could get even more technical and break it down into specific training methods, such as Conjugate, Tier, Eastern Block, Poliquin Principles etc. A periodization model consists of a Macro cycle, Mesocycles and Microcycles. The Macro is the skeleton you use to lay out your program in the generally year based approach. Meso’s are anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months of a training program used to attain a specific training goal (hypertrophy, endurance, strength, power) while Micro’s are the 1-7 day blocks in your Meso.
Cross fit is a joke. It doesn’t have a Macro or Meso approach to training. You go to a weekend seminar, get certified, and pull WODs off a national website. This is another reason I hate crossfit. You are a joke to the industry. 90% of you are uneducated and pull your “wods” off of a national website. When I compare crossfit to planet fitness it is because you both don’t use any form of a periodization approach. You say “so what a lot of shit isn’t periodized.” Well take some pride in your career and learn to program. The people who know how to train and get results use periodization. People who are lazy or uneducated don’t.
I know alot more about crossfit (pros & cons) than alot of you crossfitters.
Got 3 whites on that deadlift. [/quote]
You could get even more technical and break it down into specific training methods, such as Conjugate, Tier, Eastern Block, Poliquin Principles etc. A periodization model consists of a Macro cycle, Mesocycles and Microcycles. The Macro is the skeleton you use to lay out your program in the generally year based approach. Meso’s are anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months of a training program used to attain a specific training goal (hypertrophy, endurance, strength, power) while Micro’s are the 1-7 day blocks in your Meso.
Cross fit is a joke. It doesn’t have a Macro or Meso approach to training. You go to a weekend seminar, get certified, and pull WODs off a national website. This is another reason I hate crossfit. You are a joke to the industry. 90% of you are uneducated and pull your “wods” off of a national website. When I compare crossfit to planet fitness it is because you both don’t use any form of a periodization approach.
You say “so what a lot of shit isn’t periodized.” Well take some pride in your career and learn to program. The people who know how to train and get results use periodization. People who are lazy or uneducated don’t.
I know alot more about crossfit (pros & cons) than alot of you crossfitters.
Got 3 whites on that deadlift. [/quote]
Congrats you can paraphrase.
Crossfit is a gpp program not an athletic training model. There is no peak season, and as such a program designed to increase performance to a peak is not the primary purpose.
If you are using Crossfit to train for a sport, ideally a Crossfit competition, you absolutely can periodize. It will be a Crossfit form of per. but to say your workouts can not be put together in blocks to focus on different aspects of said upcoming competition shows a fundamental misubderstanding of both Crossfit and periodization.
I could be completely wrong but isnt Planet Fitness just a gym? Isnt this like saying the 24 hour fitness program or the Golds Gym program? Crossfit is a fintess brand/philosophy or program, which also operates franchised locations. Planet Fitness is just a franchise. It seems
go to any gym in the usa and the average guy you see there will be a big guy, not cut or in shape looking at all, but a big guy doing benches, curls and a few other exercies. very very non fit. go in any crosfit gym and your average guy there is fit looking with veins in his arms, abs showing and is in shape to run a 10k, row a long way do 20 dead hand pullups, deadlift and squat double his bodyweight
ask any girl who she would rather be with on looks alone, and i bet 9 out of 10 pick the fit looking crosfit guy.
now, there are the stud bodybuilders in all gyms too, guys that look almost like arnold. trouble is these guys move like statues and at best could run/walk a slow 10k.
seeek out the better crossfit guys in crossfit gyms, and they look like a world class gymnast, look almost as good as the amature bodybuilder that wants to look like arnold, but these guys can also run swim row, play sports and are agile…
nothing against bodybuilders but the specific training they do to look like arnold and run like a statue is kinda funny looking.
personally i’m glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can run 10 miles, ride my bike 100 miles and move like a gymnast…
i think a lot of bodybuilders dislike xfit cause they cant do some of the movements. some of the big great looking guys at the gym taht bad mouth xfit do sets of 10 in pullups… hell the stud crossfit guys do 30-40 50 deadhangs and 70-80- kipping pullups… a 250# pure bodybuilder deads 3x his bodyweight, but so do xfit guys… pure bodybuilders dont do cardio… well they walk or jog like a girl, pure crossfitters run a fast 6 miles.
i dont call it crosfit… i call what i do circut training.crossfgit is a newer word…
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
now, the strongmern, they are very very strong but are so fat looking…
specific training for specific goals. my day is over as a pro hockey player
circut training now…
[quote]spk wrote:
go to any gym in the usa and the average guy you see there will be a big guy, not cut or in shape looking at all, but a big guy doing benches, curls and a few other exercies. very very non fit. go in any crosfit gym and your average guy there is fit looking with veins in his arms, abs showing and is in shape to run a 10k, row a long way do 20 dead hand pullups, deadlift and squat double his bodyweight
ask any girl who she would rather be with on looks alone, and i bet 9 out of 10 pick the fit looking crosfit guy.
now, there are the stud bodybuilders in all gyms too, guys that look almost like arnold. trouble is these guys move like statues and at best could run/walk a slow 10k.
seeek out the better crossfit guys in crossfit gyms, and they look like a world class gymnast, look almost as good as the amature bodybuilder that wants to look like arnold, but these guys can also run swim row, play sports and are agile…
nothing against bodybuilders but the specific training they do to look like arnold and run like a statue is kinda funny looking.
personally i’m glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can run 10 miles, ride my bike 100 miles and move like a gymnast…
i think a lot of bodybuilders dislike xfit cause they cant do some of the movements. some of the big great looking guys at the gym taht bad mouth xfit do sets of 10 in pullups… hell the stud crossfit guys do 30-40 50 deadhangs and 70-80- kipping pullups… a 250# pure bodybuilder deads 3x his bodyweight, but so do xfit guys… pure bodybuilders dont do cardio… well they walk or jog like a girl, pure crossfitters run a fast 6 miles.
i dont call it crosfit… i call what i do circut training.crossfgit is a newer word…
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
now, the strongmern, they are very very strong but are so fat looking…
specific training for specific goals. my day is over as a pro hockey player
circut training now… [/quote]
Post videos of all these elite 250 pound crossfitter doing a 750 dead, 500 ATG Squat, 30 dead hang pull ups etc. There is always an exception that proves the rule, so post 2. Or post these videos of your average crossfitters squatting double their bodyweight ATG. I’m calling BullShit. Crossfitters pride themselves on their cardio, not their strength, and the reason is because they have no strength. Or go ahead and post videos of you deadlifting and squatting double your bodyweight as well as hitting 40 dead hang pull ups. You’re a crossfitter so I know you film every thing you do. You’re getting called out so post your shit, and I’ll STFU.
[quote]spk wrote:
go to any gym in the usa and the average guy you see there will be a big guy, not cut or in shape looking at all, but a big guy doing benches, curls and a few other exercies. very very non fit. go in any crosfit gym and your average guy there is fit looking with veins in his arms, abs showing and is in shape to run a 10k, row a long way do 20 dead hand pullups, deadlift and squat double his bodyweight
ask any girl who she would rather be with on looks alone, and i bet 9 out of 10 pick the fit looking crosfit guy.
now, there are the stud bodybuilders in all gyms too, guys that look almost like arnold. trouble is these guys move like statues and at best could run/walk a slow 10k.
seeek out the better crossfit guys in crossfit gyms, and they look like a world class gymnast, look almost as good as the amature bodybuilder that wants to look like arnold, but these guys can also run swim row, play sports and are agile…
nothing against bodybuilders but the specific training they do to look like arnold and run like a statue is kinda funny looking.
personally i’m glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can run 10 miles, ride my bike 100 miles and move like a gymnast…
i think a lot of bodybuilders dislike xfit cause they cant do some of the movements. some of the big great looking guys at the gym taht bad mouth xfit do sets of 10 in pullups… hell the stud crossfit guys do 30-40 50 deadhangs and 70-80- kipping pullups… a 250# pure bodybuilder deads 3x his bodyweight, but so do xfit guys… pure bodybuilders dont do cardio… well they walk or jog like a girl, pure crossfitters run a fast 6 miles.
i dont call it crosfit… i call what i do circut training.crossfgit is a newer word…
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
now, the strongmern, they are very very strong but are so fat looking…
specific training for specific goals. my day is over as a pro hockey player
circut training now… [/quote]
Reason #1,233,343 why I despise crossfit.
[quote]spk wrote:
go to any gym in the usa and the average guy you see there will be a big guy, not cut or in shape looking at all, but a big guy doing benches, curls and a few other exercies. very very non fit. go in any crosfit gym and your average guy there is fit looking with veins in his arms, abs showing and is in shape to run a 10k, row a long way do 20 dead hand pullups, deadlift and squat double his bodyweight
ask any girl who she would rather be with on looks alone, and i bet 9 out of 10 pick the fit looking crosfit guy.
now, there are the stud bodybuilders in all gyms too, guys that look almost like arnold. trouble is these guys move like statues and at best could run/walk a slow 10k.
seeek out the better crossfit guys in crossfit gyms, and they look like a world class gymnast, look almost as good as the amature bodybuilder that wants to look like arnold, but these guys can also run swim row, play sports and are agile…
nothing against bodybuilders but the specific training they do to look like arnold and run like a statue is kinda funny looking.
personally i’m glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can run 10 miles, ride my bike 100 miles and move like a gymnast…
i think a lot of bodybuilders dislike xfit cause they cant do some of the movements. some of the big great looking guys at the gym taht bad mouth xfit do sets of 10 in pullups… hell the stud crossfit guys do 30-40 50 deadhangs and 70-80- kipping pullups… a 250# pure bodybuilder deads 3x his bodyweight, but so do xfit guys… pure bodybuilders dont do cardio… well they walk or jog like a girl, pure crossfitters run a fast 6 miles.
i dont call it crosfit… i call what i do circut training.crossfgit is a newer word…
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
now, the strongmern, they are very very strong but are so fat looking…
specific training for specific goals. my day is over as a pro hockey player
circut training now… [/quote]
You, sir, are a complete idiot. This post right here is exactly why people can’t stand crossfit/crossfitters.
There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to start…
You know that all of the elite crossfitters you’re talking about didn’t start off building their strength levels from crossfit. More than likely it was from bodybuilding type workouts and sport training for football or something.
Average crossfitter? I’ve been to several crossfit gyms (my friend owns one) and you’re average crossfitter looks weak/small. The top level guys look good but the same thing can be said of top guys in commercial gyms.
You said before you’re an amateur cyclist? Or semi pro? Something like that? Let’s see a picture of you’re “lean frank Zane” body? LMFAO at that happening.
No average crossfitter is going to bust out 30 dead hang pullups. That is laughable just like the rest of your post.
I was actually sticking up for crossfit (with my previous post) but your post was way to ignorant/outlandish for me to not address.
[quote]spk wrote:
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
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BAHAHAHAHAHA!
x2 on the call out. Lean Frank Zane pics especially.
[quote]gregron wrote:
You know that all of the elite crossfitters you’re talking about didn’t start off building their strength levels from crossfit. More than likely it was from bodybuilding type workouts and sport training for football or something.
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Bingo. Crossfit is ok for general fitness but it will not make you a monster. You have to lift heavy first.
The Crossfit cult is so annoying that fair discussion of the system itself is difficult.
[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
[quote]spk wrote:
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
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BAHAHAHAHAHA!
x2 on the call out. Lean Frank Zane pics especially.
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heres a pic to reference. So SPK you look like this? This is a “lean frank zane” (it’d be hard to be much leaner than this)
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]spk wrote:
go to any gym in the usa and the average guy you see there will be a big guy, not cut or in shape looking at all, but a big guy doing benches, curls and a few other exercies. very very non fit. go in any crosfit gym and your average guy there is fit looking with veins in his arms, abs showing and is in shape to run a 10k, row a long way do 20 dead hand pullups, deadlift and squat double his bodyweight
ask any girl who she would rather be with on looks alone, and i bet 9 out of 10 pick the fit looking crosfit guy.
now, there are the stud bodybuilders in all gyms too, guys that look almost like arnold. trouble is these guys move like statues and at best could run/walk a slow 10k.
seeek out the better crossfit guys in crossfit gyms, and they look like a world class gymnast, look almost as good as the amature bodybuilder that wants to look like arnold, but these guys can also run swim row, play sports and are agile…
nothing against bodybuilders but the specific training they do to look like arnold and run like a statue is kinda funny looking.
personally i’m glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can run 10 miles, ride my bike 100 miles and move like a gymnast…
i think a lot of bodybuilders dislike xfit cause they cant do some of the movements. some of the big great looking guys at the gym taht bad mouth xfit do sets of 10 in pullups… hell the stud crossfit guys do 30-40 50 deadhangs and 70-80- kipping pullups… a 250# pure bodybuilder deads 3x his bodyweight, but so do xfit guys… pure bodybuilders dont do cardio… well they walk or jog like a girl, pure crossfitters run a fast 6 miles.
i dont call it crosfit… i call what i do circut training.crossfgit is a newer word…
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
now, the strongmern, they are very very strong but are so fat looking…
specific training for specific goals. my day is over as a pro hockey player
circut training now… [/quote]
Post videos of all these elite 250 pound crossfitter doing a 750 dead, 500 ATG Squat, 30 dead hang pull ups etc. There is always an exception that proves the rule, so post 2. Or post these videos of your average crossfitters squatting double their bodyweight ATG. I’m calling BullShit. Crossfitters pride themselves on their cardio, not their strength, and the reason is because they have no strength. Or go ahead and post videos of you deadlifting and squatting double your bodyweight as well as hitting 40 dead hang pull ups. You’re a crossfitter so I know you film every thing you do. You’re getting called out so post your shit, and I’ll STFU.
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750 dead is alot of weight I think the big boys in crossfit are around the 600 mark, there is also a few of the bigger guys over 500 on the back squat but most of the good athletes are around 450-475 and there is to many crossfitters that can do 30 dead hang pull ups…I have decent strength numbers at 525 dead, 405 squat and a 235 press I also just ran a very unimpressive marathon in 4 hours,30 minutes and some change…does this make me an elite athlete I wouldn’t say so…Not to bad for government work…I watched a video on the mainsite the other day and I thought of you.
media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_Glassman_FindingTheFittest.wmv
[quote]crossfit_infidel wrote:
[quote]SquatDeepHomie wrote:
[quote]spk wrote:
go to any gym in the usa and the average guy you see there will be a big guy, not cut or in shape looking at all, but a big guy doing benches, curls and a few other exercies. very very non fit. go in any crosfit gym and your average guy there is fit looking with veins in his arms, abs showing and is in shape to run a 10k, row a long way do 20 dead hand pullups, deadlift and squat double his bodyweight
ask any girl who she would rather be with on looks alone, and i bet 9 out of 10 pick the fit looking crosfit guy.
now, there are the stud bodybuilders in all gyms too, guys that look almost like arnold. trouble is these guys move like statues and at best could run/walk a slow 10k.
seeek out the better crossfit guys in crossfit gyms, and they look like a world class gymnast, look almost as good as the amature bodybuilder that wants to look like arnold, but these guys can also run swim row, play sports and are agile…
nothing against bodybuilders but the specific training they do to look like arnold and run like a statue is kinda funny looking.
personally i’m glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can run 10 miles, ride my bike 100 miles and move like a gymnast…
i think a lot of bodybuilders dislike xfit cause they cant do some of the movements. some of the big great looking guys at the gym taht bad mouth xfit do sets of 10 in pullups… hell the stud crossfit guys do 30-40 50 deadhangs and 70-80- kipping pullups… a 250# pure bodybuilder deads 3x his bodyweight, but so do xfit guys… pure bodybuilders dont do cardio… well they walk or jog like a girl, pure crossfitters run a fast 6 miles.
i dont call it crosfit… i call what i do circut training.crossfgit is a newer word…
i’m just glad i look like a lean frank zane, but can also dead close to 2.5 times my bodyweight, run 10 miles… fast, ride a hundred miles… nd move like a gymnast.
now, the strongmern, they are very very strong but are so fat looking…
specific training for specific goals. my day is over as a pro hockey player
circut training now… [/quote]
Post videos of all these elite 250 pound crossfitter doing a 750 dead, 500 ATG Squat, 30 dead hang pull ups etc. There is always an exception that proves the rule, so post 2. Or post these videos of your average crossfitters squatting double their bodyweight ATG. I’m calling BullShit. Crossfitters pride themselves on their cardio, not their strength, and the reason is because they have no strength. Or go ahead and post videos of you deadlifting and squatting double your bodyweight as well as hitting 40 dead hang pull ups. You’re a crossfitter so I know you film every thing you do. You’re getting called out so post your shit, and I’ll STFU.
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750 dead is alot of weight I think the big boys in crossfit are around the 600 mark, there is also a few of the bigger guys over 500 on the back squat but most of the good athletes are around 450-475 and there is to many crossfitters that can do 30 dead hang pull ups…I have decent strength numbers at 525 dead, 405 squat and a 235 press I also just ran a very unimpressive marathon in 4 hours,30 minutes and some change…does this make me an elite athlete I wouldn’t say so…Not to bad for government work…I watched a video on the mainsite the other day and I thought of you.
media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_Glassman_FindingTheFittest.wmv
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Would that be a 235 bench press? If so I’m also calling bullshit on you. 235 is a very shitty number, especially if you are squatting over 400 and pulling over 500. I’ll leave you an out though. You were talking about standing military press right?
Would that be a 235 bench press? If so I’m also calling bullshit on you. 235 is a very shitty number, especially if you are squatting over 400 and pulling over 500. I’ll leave you an out though. You were talking about standing military press right? [/quote]
OK, I just want to be complletely clear as I can tell you are not the type to read others posts that dont directly concern you. I am not a crossfitter, most of my posts in this thread have been to the tune of how AI dislike the CF culture. However ten times worse than any Crossfitter is the internet shouter (you in this case).
In one of your pervious posts you indicated (very sassily, I might add, like a little girl) that you knew much more about their program than I thought you did. You just called your own bullshit. If you had to think for even a second wether he was talking Bench or military, you clearly have no familiarity with the program.
Crossfit total]
Squat
Deadlift
Military Press
They also sometimes do it with Power clean, maybe thats CF football
anyways, 405 at about 180 raw aint half bad, especially when it has nothing to do with your sport
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
Would that be a 235 bench press? If so I’m also calling bullshit on you. 235 is a very shitty number, especially if you are squatting over 400 and pulling over 500. I’ll leave you an out though. You were talking about standing military press right? [/quote]
OK, I just want to be complletely clear as I can tell you are not the type to read others posts that dont directly concern you. I am not a crossfitter, most of my posts in this thread have been to the tune of how AI dislike the CF culture. However ten times worse than any Crossfitter is the internet shouter (you in this case).
In one of your pervious posts you indicated (very sassily, I might add, like a little girl) that you knew much more about their program than I thought you did. You just called your own bullshit. If you had to think for even a second wether he was talking Bench or military, you clearly have no familiarity with the program.
Crossfit total]
Squat
Deadlift
Military Press
They also sometimes do it with Power clean, maybe thats CF football
anyways, 405 at about 180 raw aint half bad, especially when it has nothing to do with your sport
Ok, I’ll take the hit on that if the squat, dead and Military are how you come to the “crossfit total”. The crossfitters that I work with, and talk it up non stop, use their 1. OH Squat, 2. “squat clean” (known as a power clean to the rest of the world) and 3. jerk as their evaluators of strength. I’m pretty sure it is based off of what affiliate crossfit gym you’re associated with as to what numbers you emphasize.
As for the responses from you crossfitters up in arms over my post, the thread asked, “why all the hate on Crossfit?” I answered the question and gave you a write up of why I “Hate on Crossfit” but everyone is trying to prove how my opinion is false? That is the reason everybody hates you guys. 1, what kind of pussy cares why other people, they don’t associate with, hates them? And 2, after getting an answer to a question you asked on why somebody doesn’t like your training methods, you continue to try and push it on them by throwing out these arbitrary, bullshit numbers to prove crossfit is superior.
Believe it or not, there are a shit load of crossfitters I work with. We give each other good natured shit all the time. I even did Fran one time with a 6 pack on the line saying I couldn’t beat 5 minutes (which I won because I cranked that stupid shit out in 4:50) If you wanna crossfit then go crossfit, who gives a shit that the rest of the world is making fun of you. Crossfitters I work with make fun of planet fitness all the time. You don’t see planet fitness fat asses getting up in arms about it. The same way I hope you don’t show up to my gym and try to monopolize a power cage so you can do 100 pull ups with 100 front squats and then roll around in a puddle of your own puke, you can hope my big ignorant ass doesn’t show up to your garage and take all your 25 pound rubber plates so I can do deadlifts.
^^did you miss the whole part where he said he INST a crossfit guy. He has been arguing AGAINST crossfit so far in this entire thread. How can you be that dense?
Wow…I thought this thread died a long time ago.
All very interesting stuff. Just two comments:
Military Athlete is better programming.
SPK…you are ABSOLUTELY FULL OF SHIT with your assertions about the “average Crossfitter”.
PS: Saying “a lean Frank Zane” is like saying “salt is salty”. It’s fucking redundant…that’s what Zane was known for. But please…by all means…let’s see this Frank Zane like physique of yours, since you mentioned it TWICE in your post.
