[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
rander wrote:
how would a chimpanzee do in a pl comp? it would only have to move the bar a few inches for DL so it could pull good but what about other lifts?
lets take this thread to a new level of asinine.
ive heard that chimps are up to 7x as strong as the average human… that compared with the fact that as u pointed out their DL ROM would be much shorter im sure we could def see a chimp pull over 1400 lbs
but dude thats not cool to compare black ppl to monkeys i think ur post really took it too far[/quote]
i was just pointing out how dumb the thread is. besides a chimpanzee is not even a monkey. htats quite a leap you made. lol funny haha.
I heard a few people say they believe it has to do with their culture and up bringing-coming from a poor background- However, this does not hold true for one one the most poor groups, Mexicans. They tend to be short and not very athletic, yet come from poor backgrounds.
Maybe it has to do with the diets of certain cultures? I know many of my African American friends tend to eat lots of meat-chicken, steak, ext- While most of my Asian friends don’t eat much protein, but more rice and noodles ext.
[quote]shizen wrote:
I heard a few people say they believe it has to do with their culture and up bringing-coming from a poor background- However, this does not hold true for one one the most poor groups, Mexicans. They tend to be short and not very athletic, yet come from poor backgrounds.
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There are more Mexicans holding boxing titles than any other nationality.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
shizen wrote:
I heard a few people say they believe it has to do with their culture and up bringing-coming from a poor background- However, this does not hold true for one one the most poor groups, Mexicans. They tend to be short and not very athletic, yet come from poor backgrounds.
There are more Mexicans holding boxing titles than any other nationality.[/quote]
What about boxing titles in, say, China? Wouldn’t the majority of them be Chinese?
You prove the OPs point. I have yet to see a white guy in central Africa that even remotely resembles a Pygmy.
DB[/quote]
LOL. That’s true.
But what about Primordial Dwarfism? Those people are easily as small (if not smaller) than the pygmies. And the only cases that I’ve seen were “white” people.
People are forgetting alot of things when discussing this.
Natural Selection is a THEORY. Most theories come from something but this doesn’t mean that they are fully definend. By making a specific Example of 18" and 20" you are reducing it’s purpose.
African-American is not a Race. It’s a culture. Anyone black will tell you that the general rule is that one ounce of black means your black. So figure the African-American culture consist of black/white black/asian black/etc… What this means, is as the culture goes on the Genes are not the same as the ones that came from the original slave trade. Just because a bigger muscle is dominant in sports it does not mean that the gene to have a bigger muscle is dominant. So if you mix a huge “african” muscle gene, with a small “white” muscle gene. It’s possible the “small” muscle gene is a dominant gene and that person will have smaller muscles.
That is a loose example and quoted for a reason. As someone else stated there is a huge variable among races. All africans are not the same, but the slave trade provided a sort of natural selection. Future slave owners chose what would seem like the best laborers transporting the strongest fastest africans across the ocean. When comparing african americans to jamaicans you have to remember that both went through the same process just got dropped off at different stations. So both jamaicans and african americans will have similar athletic genes …albeit 300… years ago.
3)Cultural differences. African americans were for along time associated with collard greens watermelon and fried chicken with lawry’s season salt. Protein, greens, and waterfilled fruit with salt. Plus known as the poorer race leaving them to eat less. Compare this to say a stereotypical italian diet of spaghetti meatballs… The first diet would lead to stronger relative bodyweith with hypertension, while the second would lead to higher maximum strength and large overall size? Move this to football and you have a wide reciever, and a lineman. Which one you think is going to be which?
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Anyone who has to fucking work hard to get ahead in life. I think best genetics is often confused with the social environment people are brought into. Compare the poverty rates of caucasians and african americans. Compare the average life of an American kid raised in the suburbs with Sasha the Eastern European kid who is put to work at age 10 to help feed his family. People who aren’t raised to be pussies always rise to the top in competition.[/quote]
there are more poor white ppl than black just becuase there are more white ppl, blacks are poorer by percentage but there is a greater number of poor whites living in poor white neiborhoods
African-American is not a Race. It’s a culture. Anyone black will tell you that the general rule is that one ounce of black means your black. So figure the African-American culture consist of black/white black/asian black/etc… [/quote]
African-American is not a Race. It’s a culture. Anyone black will tell you that the general rule is that one ounce of black means your black. So figure the African-American culture consist of black/white black/asian black/etc…
African-American is not a Race. It’s a culture. Anyone black will tell you that the general rule is that one ounce of black means your black. So figure the African-American culture consist of black/white black/asian black/etc…
No way. I claim Halle Berry.[/quote]
We’ll give them colin powell, but they have to take eminem and condoleeza rice too.
African-American is not a Race. It’s a culture. Anyone black will tell you that the general rule is that one ounce of black means your black. So figure the African-American culture consist of black/white black/asian black/etc…
No way. I claim Halle Berry.
We’ll give them colin powell, but they have to take eminem and condoleeza rice too.[/quote]
Not to pimp my family origin too much either, but I must say that Croatian people tend to be blessed genetically. I myself am blessed that I can have steroidal type gains just by training hard and increasing my diet slightly.
The traits being discussed exist in every race on earth. There is in fact only one race on earth with small variations in skin pigmentation related to vitamin D absorption rates dependent on climate.
We all came from people who had to hunt for a living for a hundred thousand years at least, according to archeaological evidence. That meant being physical, clever, strong and sturdy. The time of civilization has been so absurdly short that no genetic changes related to it can have even occurred yet.
Obesity, chronic illness or physical excellence are mainly the result of environment and culture. Where there is a need to physically perform at a high level, members of each culture can be found who will perform at that level.
Blacks are this or Croats are that is nonsense. In cultures where strength or speed or endurance is respected and encouraged, strong, speedy and enduring individuals will be found in higher proportion.
In cultures where cleverness and or business acumen or even successful cheating is lauded, individuals who excel in those traits will be more numerous. It’s culture, not race that decides.
This is a dumb thread…genetics don’t mean shit if you don’t bust your ass…Makes me think about certain professional athletes and their offspring…the Mannings,Prince Fielder,Jared Payton,Shawn Springs,James Laurinaitis,etc. Does Dale Earnhardt Jr’s success come from good genetics?Hhmm??
Do any of the above mentioned have success because of good genetics…or is the product of their environment they grew up in??? Is learning to bust your ass for something genetic??
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
This is a dumb thread…genetics don’t mean shit if you don’t bust your ass…Makes me think about certain professional athletes and their offspring…the Mannings,Prince Fielder,Jared Payton,Shawn Springs,James Laurinaitis,etc. Does Dale Earnhardt Jr’s success come from good genetics?Hhmm??
Do any of the above mentioned have success because of good genetics…or is the product of their environment they grew up in??? Is learning to bust your ass for something genetic??[/quote]
Nope. Busting your ass is primary to all of it - you’re correct.
