Who Came Up with the Bench Shirt?

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, I meant to write 25%. Guess I hit the wrong key.

Who the fuck cares how much you get out of them? If you lift in a geared competition, every lifter has the opportunity to wear the same gear.

Secondly dickhead, that’s not a “sweet tribal armband tattoo”, it’s my deceased sister and grandmothers names.

My bad.

I’m not butt-hurt at all that people can hit more in gear.

You certainly seem like it.

I’m impressed with anyone who handles over 800lbs in anything in any fashion.

Then say “wow, that’s impressive.” NOT “Wow, that’s impressive, but the gear… ehhhh”

I just think relying so much on gear or attentive spotters is playing with fire.

Like I said, that’s what you think. And well, it’s a pretty pussified opinion. In my opinion, of course.

Why don’t you stop worrying about what YOU think is safe/unsafe for OTHER LIFTERS who want to lift in gear? Every powerlifter who competes knows full well something could go wrong under any amount of weight, regardless of what gear they’re wearing or not wearing.

You ask what my point is about the wr bench/dead comparison? I already expressed my point moron.

Your point is that the WR bench is bigger than the WR deadlift? That’s it?

It’s that the gear is getting out of hand. The nascar/sprinter comparison makes total sense, you’re just too fucking defensive to acknowledge it.

No, it’s a stupid fucking comparison because there aren’t races where 100m sprinters race against nascar race cars in official, governed competitions. There ARE races between 100m sprinters in sneakers and 100m sprinters in spikes. Check out any HS level meet. Not everyone wears them, but they have the option to.

On a more relevant note, there are competitions between geared lifters and other geared lifters, as there are competitions between raw lifters and other raw lifters. OP decided to lift in an equipped meet and lost because he was competing raw. The others weren’t cheating, they were well within the rules. I mean, fuck, was he expecting to win a geared competition raw?

And, if you don’t believe me about the origin of the bench shirt, look it up.

First of all, I never said you were wrong. Secondly, I don’t give a flying fuck about the origin of the bench shirt. It’s evolved to what it is today.

The origin of the automobile was to get from point A to point B quickly. Now we have 250+ mph cars. Are you going to complain about those, too?

Have you ever even competed in a meet? Why don’t you just let the people who do compete and govern the sport decide “what’s getting out of hand,” instead of sitting behind your computer desk and making that decision for us. Fuck, maybe PL equipment will get so out of hand that we’ll all get hurt and die from it. There’ll be less of us to have this argument with you.[/quote]

First off, thanks for apologizing about the tat thing. It probably seems otherwise, but I’m not against gear at all. I’ve yet to use [and honestly probably never will] but I understand the time and work that goes into getting technique down so you get something out of it, and the balls it takes to get under that much more weight. I just think there reaches a point where the lifter has to ask him/herself if the risk is worth the reward. But, you’re right. That’s entirely dependant on each individual lifetr and I guess I don’t get it. Good luck with the pl’ing everybody.

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, I meant to write 25%. Guess I hit the wrong key.

Who the fuck cares how much you get out of them? If you lift in a geared competition, every lifter has the opportunity to wear the same gear.

Secondly dickhead, that’s not a “sweet tribal armband tattoo”, it’s my deceased sister and grandmothers names.

My bad.

I’m not butt-hurt at all that people can hit more in gear.

You certainly seem like it.

I’m impressed with anyone who handles over 800lbs in anything in any fashion.

Then say “wow, that’s impressive.” NOT “Wow, that’s impressive, but the gear… ehhhh”

I just think relying so much on gear or attentive spotters is playing with fire.

Like I said, that’s what you think. And well, it’s a pretty pussified opinion. In my opinion, of course.

Why don’t you stop worrying about what YOU think is safe/unsafe for OTHER LIFTERS who want to lift in gear? Every powerlifter who competes knows full well something could go wrong under any amount of weight, regardless of what gear they’re wearing or not wearing.

You ask what my point is about the wr bench/dead comparison? I already expressed my point moron.

Your point is that the WR bench is bigger than the WR deadlift? That’s it?

It’s that the gear is getting out of hand. The nascar/sprinter comparison makes total sense, you’re just too fucking defensive to acknowledge it.

No, it’s a stupid fucking comparison because there aren’t races where 100m sprinters race against nascar race cars in official, governed competitions. There ARE races between 100m sprinters in sneakers and 100m sprinters in spikes. Check out any HS level meet. Not everyone wears them, but they have the option to.

On a more relevant note, there are competitions between geared lifters and other geared lifters, as there are competitions between raw lifters and other raw lifters. OP decided to lift in an equipped meet and lost because he was competing raw. The others weren’t cheating, they were well within the rules. I mean, fuck, was he expecting to win a geared competition raw?

And, if you don’t believe me about the origin of the bench shirt, look it up.

First of all, I never said you were wrong. Secondly, I don’t give a flying fuck about the origin of the bench shirt. It’s evolved to what it is today.

The origin of the automobile was to get from point A to point B quickly. Now we have 250+ mph cars. Are you going to complain about those, too?

Have you ever even competed in a meet? Why don’t you just let the people who do compete and govern the sport decide “what’s getting out of hand,” instead of sitting behind your computer desk and making that decision for us. Fuck, maybe PL equipment will get so out of hand that we’ll all get hurt and die from it. There’ll be less of us to have this argument with you.[/quote]

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[quote]power_bulker wrote:
Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of wearing spikes during the 100m? I recently entered a local track meet. I lost to a guy who ran 2.34 seconds faster than me by wearing spikes. I have read about guys running 0.7s faster using spikes, and for the life of me I cant figure out what that proves. How is this not cheating.

Get yourself in bare feet and just SPRINT. Can someone who sprints explain to me how wearing spikes to set records they could not do without it makes sense?
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You sir are a genius!!

One could apply this same thought proces to any and probably all sports. In fact, I mountain bike and was accused of lets just say,“doing better” than my buddy because I have a $2000 bike. So I swapped bikes with him and still schooled his ass.

[quote]gambit10 wrote:
Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of using a bench shirt to help press more weight? I recently entered a local contest combo bench and deadlift. I lost to a guy benching almost 150 lb more than me by using a bench shirt. I have read about guys benching 300 pounds more with a shirt on and for the life of me I cant figure out what that proves. How is this not cheating. Get your ass under the bar and lift. Can someone who powerlifts explain to me how using a shirt or squat suit to set records they could not do without it makes sense.[/quote]

Gambit10 can you please explain how this is not “TROLLING”. -BAN-

Seriously, go buy a bench shirt, Maybe a Titan F6 for $100. Then you’ll see for yourself that this is an aquired skill set worthy of existance and who knows you may even like it. You may even set a record some day! I wish you well in your bench pressing either way.

[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
power_bulker wrote:
Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of wearing spikes during the 100m? I recently entered a local track meet. I lost to a guy who ran 2.34 seconds faster than me by wearing spikes. I have read about guys running 0.7s faster using spikes, and for the life of me I cant figure out what that proves. How is this not cheating.

Get yourself in bare feet and just SPRINT. Can someone who sprints explain to me how wearing spikes to set records they could not do without it makes sense?

You sir are a genius!!

One could apply this same thought proces to any and probably all sports. In fact, I mountain bike and was accused of lets just say,“doing better” than my buddy because I have a $2000 bike. So I swapped bikes with him and still schooled his ass.[/quote]

You can…but you have to be careful about it.

International swimming recently banned all race suits from competition,
You mention biking, but bike racing has also placed limits on bike design,
International Rowing has limits on the hull material used on boats,
But-
Speed skating has not limited things as of yet, Track hasn’t (there actually were race suits for sprinters but they never really caught on).

The “gear debate” is present in pretty much all sports, but the primary determinant in most of them is nothing more than cost. A speedo LZR will set you back almost a grand, and you only get 5 or 6 meets out of it before you need another. Bikes are getting to 10k, and a there’s a hull coating in rowing that vastly improves boat speed, but it’s about 8000 dollars for a small boat (that already cost a good 14 thousand).
Not everyone at the top level can afford this, so the ones that do will get, arguably, an unfair advantage. Hence, they get banned.

(This is about the point I should note: I’m not a competive powerlifter)
I just took literally 30 seconds to poke around elite, and full gear for a meet would set you back maaybe a grand. And how long would that last? (in comparison to a speedo LZR, which is capped at around 6?). So by standards of other sports, there really is no good reason why powerlifting gear would be “cheating”, when it’s within the rules of the federation.

Notice how this issue never seems to come up with squat suits? I think it’s nothing more than ego. People are obsessed with their bench press, other people’s bench press, their brothers bench “back in highschool when he was lifting a lot”. And by god, anything more supportive than the affliction shirt they wear on mondays to bench is cheating, dammit!
To the OP: You need to realize that Bench Pressing (the competitive event) is a different animal from bench pressing (the exercise all the boys do on monday). One is a means to an end (hyooge pecs) and the other is an end in and of itself, and anything that enhances that end within the rules is fair game.

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
chrisarmes wrote:

Just out of interest, OP. Given the tone of your posts (across the 2 identical threads about this topic ive seen today) I gotta ask… sean katterle… is that you dude? be honest :stuck_out_tongue:

Nah, he said he did a meet. Couldn’t be Katterle :)[/quote]

lol e-HighFive. Nice :stuck_out_tongue:

[quote]justkevin wrote:

Notice how this issue never seems to come up with squat suits? I think it’s nothing more than ego. People are obsessed with their bench press, other people’s bench press, their brothers bench “back in highschool when he was lifting a lot”. And by god, anything more supportive than the affliction shirt they wear on mondays to bench is cheating, dammit!
[/quote]

very good point Kevin. I have NEVER been asked how much I squat Raw when folks have seen me in a squat suit but then again the squat rack was ALWAYS open at the gym I went to.

[quote]chrisarmes wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
chrisarmes wrote:

Just out of interest, OP. Given the tone of your posts (across the 2 identical threads about this topic ive seen today) I gotta ask… sean katterle… is that you dude? be honest :stuck_out_tongue:

Nah, he said he did a meet. Couldn’t be Katterle :slight_smile:

lol e-HighFive. Nice :P[/quote]

sorry to jack the thread… Chris hows the Pec?? Good I hope!

All this talk of bench shirts i guess made it pop into your head eh, SD? :stuck_out_tongue:

Its doing much better actually. icing multiple times a day and high dose ibu. doc thinks it was a damn good strain, and took probably 10 times of having it explained to him (plus showing him the shirt) before he kinda got it. Ironically he said “That looks like it would make it much safer” :stuck_out_tongue:

I agree with chrisarmes and call for the law of TSB on the op.

not trying to stir up shit…just gonna toss in my $.02

Benching raw is easier. I have done both and prefer raw, because it is easier. It is easier to train cause you only need 1 spotter as opposed to 3. Plus getting into a tight shirt is more of a workout than actually lifting the weight. Plus I just like to bench. I don’t like having to carry 3 and 4 boards into the gym for lockout work. I don’t like playing 20 questions about shirts, boards, and bands. I just want to go in, get my lift on, and go home.

There are plenty of feds/divisions out there for everybody. Hell there are so many divisions you dont even have to lift against anybody! That means there is no need to worry about how or why the other guy beat you…you just lift against yourself, collect you $4 trophy and go home and tell everybody how awesome you are!

[quote]NATOR wrote:
I agree with chrisarmes and call for the law of TSB on the op. [/quote]

I second.

Motion for TSB has been made from the floor and seconded. Carry to a vote. Aye is a vote for TSB on the OP and Nay is a vote against TSB.

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
caveman101 wrote:
would you have a thought process that goes “i want to bench more, hmm, i know!, i will wear a large, extremely uncomftable thick tight shirt, that should do the trick!”?

Yeah, it was probably something like that.

If someone’s got a passion for something and is willing to push their body as far as they can, they’re not worried about being as comfortable as possible at all waking hours.

It’s kind of similar to that doofy armor suit you’re wearing. Surely it’s not comfortable, but those are the measures you have to go to to impress all the ladies and get laid.[/quote]

thats true.
armour has to be comftable enough to run around all day in and be able to do shit like vault onto a horse, gymnastic stuff etc. whats the point of training for years and spending millions in todays money if a peasant with a billhook can kill you easily cos you cant move fast enough? later suits of armour in the C.15th were works of art and were almost a seccond skin if the armourer was skilled enough.

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