Dr. Phil
Invisible 3, TC here. Your allegation regarding Charles Staley is dead wrong. Just because there are some similarities between a program of Staley’s and one Francis came up with 20 years ago doesn’t mean that it’s a case of plagiarism. Every program has similarities to some program, written some time, in the history of strength training.
Just ask yourself this, "Why the hell would Charles Staley, who’s one of the top trainers in the world, bother to copy someone else’s prorgram? It just doesn’t make sense and it simply didn’t happen.
Besides, Charles is one honorable guy–one of the few sane strength coaches around.
Tony Little
I guess it is not my place to be the judge and jury but I would look into things a little bit more before I would say that he is completely innocent. I understand his celebrity in the field of strength and conditioning but that in itself does not determine innocence. You have to admit the programs are alot alike. The whole thing looks a little shady to me.
In no particular order: CT, Charles Staley, Charles Poliquin, Louie Simmons, Dave Tate, Mark Philipi, Zatiorosky, Verkoshanski, Steve Plisk, and the late Dr. Mel Siff.
Jim Wendler.
I forgot Pavel and Charlie Francis.
Invisable 3…what you are saying really has no merit. In actuality, most things you read now are combinations of what coaches of the past have written. There really isn’t much new under the sun. Look at CT’s latest article…great article, but he didn’t “invent” those all of those exercises/techs. He pooled from his vast knowledge of the field and came up with an origional program.
Staley is one of the most orig. coaches/writers out there. I know he admires Charlie Francis, so I really don’t think that he would copy one of his articles.
Who invented the bench press? Me, so please dont write any articles about it.
Ian King.
But I gotta agree with Moose that Tony Little does run a close 2nd.
To tell you the truth Coach Morris I can tell you do not know anything about this situation. I understand, “there is nothing new under the sun,” but plagerism is plagerism. Before you decide to write about a topic please at least educate yourself on the situation instead of oversimplifying the situation. (ie; “I invented the bench press”) But thanks for trying to insult my intelligence! I am sure TC is proud of you for backing him up:)
P.S. I do not know why someone would admire a person that called him out for plagerism on his own site, but hey, you invented the bench press:) You probably knew all that already.
Louie Simmons is the greatest of all-time in my opinion.
Charles Poliquin knows more about working out, deit, exercise, stretching and soft tissue managment then anyother coach in the world.
JA
Poliquin and Louie Simmons started it all. I think Joe DeFranco is presently giving the most practical advice. He’s also well rounded in his knowledge. He’s also a Jersey guy!
I think that most, if not all of the writers for T-mag are excellent. I have learned so much from everybody on this site, including the anonymous posters on our various forums here. I just want to say thanks to y’all for making me a better me.
p.s. I knew someone would say “Richard Simmons” and/or “Dr. Phil”!
If you measure a strength coach by his success it is hard to top Bob Hoffman. I know he is from another era, (1950’s & 60’s), but the United States won more medals, including many gold medals, in the Olympics than at any other time. If you can get a hold of some of his courses you will see how outstanding he really was!
Another Coach who also achieves a great amount of success is Louie Simmons. He has probably produced more successful powerlifters than any other coach.
Being published is a fine thing. However, there is a big difference (theory vs practice) between publishing your work and actually training men who bring home the gold!