I suppose I don’t understand why you asked for my opinion only to disregard it, but good luck. It sounds like you have it figured out.
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Truth is OP, we’re all busing your balls a bit because beginner vs intermediate is subjective at best.
Guy A began as a 6’ 135lb guy who busted his ass for years to finally achieve a 315 squat.
Guy B has loads of natural talent and his first time squatting he puts up the 365.
Who’s a beginner in this scenario?
Point is, drop the labels. Until you reach the upper echelon to where you really need to get creative, there’s no perfect time to begin to train SMART with a well designed diet & training plan. That’ll carry you as far as you need to go for 99% of lifters.
Yeah, i get being turned off by the body builder 1 hour superset armathon but is grabbing an empty axle and going until you can do no more, pausing then going again twice a week such a big deal?
Patience. Only bad things will happen when you try to rush your gains. Your body adapts, just do the proper program you like.
Wow, been away for three months and within days the same question comes up again. Has anyone while I’m away managed to put this nonsense to bed yet?
What??? How can you train for hypertrophy when you’re still a beginner? You should train for strength! STRENGTH!
I squat 225lbs but I’ve read thousands of articles. I know what I’m talking about.
We’ve tried. Believe me we’ve tried.
Not at all, that’s actually exactly what i do when i hit biceps. I don’t enjoy it but the juice is worth the squeeze.
Well if you read the what I posted at first you would know I’m on 5/3/1 and after your strength lifts you do assistance which is most likely some kind of hypertrophy
When I was 16-30, I loved working on my arms.
Sometimes I would do “Arms Day” to free up time during regular workouts.
Chins paired with dips
Barbell Curls paired with tricep extensions
Dumbbell Curls and tricep pushdowns
These days, I don’t devote so much time to being swole. But I still like to do tricep Pushdowns after chinups. Then, on another day dips or pushups with some curls. The “small moves,” (curls and Pushdowns) help to keep my elbows feeling good after the hard stuff(dips/presses and chins/rows).
I’ll most likely just put my numbers into a 5rm calculator and work with that for starting strength, I eat like a pig so I shouldn’t have much trouble getting my newbie gains out the way.
I always tell myself I’m going to make a program with a dedicated “assistance day” so I can just hammer the mainlifts on other training days and take care of my assistance all in one day.
I end up thinking that my normal workouts don’t have enough volume, and halfway through assistance day think to myself “this sucks, lets go run a medley instead”.
It’s such a good idea that never works, haha.
I used to quite like a “vanity” day where I’d do a bunch of arms and shoulders, but I’ve not for a while. It’s loads of fun supersetting tons of biceps and triceps exercises and getting your arms all pumped up!
Nowadays I just do a few sets for one or the other depending on whether it’s a push or pull day.
If I’m getting a pump in anything it’s gonna be my legs, back, or chest. I could really care less about working my arms as they tend to get bigger just from doing the compound lifts.
I do not see this approach helping you reach your goals.
Your legs and back are your most important muscles so they should need more attention
Why does this necessitate NOT training other parts?
I give my legs and back a ton of training. I had a blown out ACL and was STILL training my legs and back. However, to have strong arms, I also train my arms.
My question to you; based on your goals, who has trained in the way you are wanting to train that has accomplished what you want to accomplish?
you’re wasting your time. He’s not getting it.
I’ll try.
OP, @T3hPwnisherdeadlifts over 600lbs drug free. He benches more than you deadlift.
He is telling you how to get strong.
A big shining light bulb should have appeared over your head by now if you’re not an idiot.
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How many assistance exercises ARE you guys doing?
If you squatted for your main lift, then deadlifted second, would you do less than if you did all the squats on 1 day?