Where to Start for Starting Strength

I’m going to use 85%

Everybody who is strong says to go a little lighter, move the bar faster. I don’t want to miss any lifts, or even have any ugly grinders during this 6 week period.

How many assistance exercises are you doing?

eh? as with any proven program do a run first exactly as is and then adjust if you must. Wendler has benched 675lbs shirted, close to 500 raw and doesnt give a crap about pumped gunz either just accept its there for a reason

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Well yea but he’s also devoted plenty of time to training to build up numbers like that

Eh? So because he’s really successful at it and been doing it a long time, that means you shouldn’t follow his advice exactly?

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Maybe he would have benched those numbers really quickly if he would have skipped curls?

To the OP: Those bench numbers will take a long time no matter what you do. Most of us will never bench 500lbs.

There is this really weird pervasive “logic” out there that you will get stronger by NOT training. I find it’s an attempt to market being lazy as “hardcore”

Idk I’m just the kind of guy that loves squatting and deadlifting but hates isolation movements. I still do stuff for hypertrophy but it’s usually still compound movements

Oh yeah, I hate arm work too. I do it because I found that doing stuff you hate is how you get stronger. In my sport, the guys who only do what they love tend to lose.

What are your thoughts on me doing phraks greyskull lp, my stats are at the top.

I think if you pick A routine and follow it with skull splitting intensity and dedication and don’t mess with it, you will be fine.

Were I in your situation; I would do 5/3/1, or any other program written by a successful coach with a verifiable track record (Westside Barbell for Skinny Bastards, Juggernaut Method, Cube, etc).

Well I train hard consistently and eat like 2 grown men so I just want the fastest strength gains. I absolutely love 5/3/1 but I’m leaving overseas for the navy in a couple months and want to get newbie gains finished before I go and 5/3/1 is a lot slower than starting strength or greyskull.

What leads you to believe that 5/3/1 has slower strength gains?

You’re not going up in weight each workout like the 2 I just named, I won’t deny its more efficient tho.

When I ran 5/3/1, I increased the weight every workout, minus the deload week. You use more weight on the 5s week than you did on the 3s week for example. You might be looking at a really obscure template, but vanilla 5/3/1 will have you lift more weight each week.

I did the 5/3/1 beginner template and the last set was where I found out if I was getting stronger since I was moving weights I was used to.

I would just run the vanilla 5/3/1 personally and set rep PRs the whole time. It works pretty well, especially with BBB assistance.

I will say though, if you were finding out if you were getring strong, it sounds like you were testing instead of training. I would avoid that.

As I stated earlier, intensity isn’t the only measure of progress.

If I take 2 guys who both do 3x5 for 50kg on day 1 and after 4 weeks one guy is doing 3x5 for 65kg whilst the other guy is doing 3x20 for 55kg has the first guy progressed faster?

I did the program exactly how it was supposed to be done, it works well just takes a little longer to go up in weight. I’m just trying to get my newbie gains done before I leave. Once I’m in the navy I actually wanted to start the Texas method. My goal is to one day be a bad motherfucker, I want impressive numbers for the big lifts, be able to compete in triathlons, have the explosiveness to pick up a heavy weight off the floor and put it over my head within a second, and walk with a weight most couldn’t even pick up. Sounds like a lot but I’m determined

I hate doing curls, but i imagine I’d hate tearing my bicep more.