When to Stop Linear Programming?

At what point did you guys stop linear programming? It’s hard to judge because people say “oh after 2 years of consistent lifting stop” or something like that, however, I’ve been training just arbitrarily for 3 years now off and on, only about 8 months consistently. Now that I’m starting to take on powerlifting, how do I know when I’ve passed that linear threshold?

Obviously I’ve made progress in strength in my consistent and non-consistent periods of training. What did you guys do to figure out when to switch from linear programming to more traditional strength programming? (Was planning on using Candito’s 6 Week Program, or his Linear Program) Thanks!

[quote]Confinative wrote:
At what point did you guys stop linear programming? It’s hard to judge because people say “oh after 2 years of consistent lifting stop” or something like that, however, I’ve been training just arbitrarily for 3 years now off and on, only about 8 months consistently. Now that I’m starting to take on powerlifting, how do I know when I’ve passed that linear threshold?

Obviously I’ve made progress in strength in my consistent and non-consistent periods of training. What did you guys do to figure out when to switch from linear programming to more traditional strength programming? (Was planning on using Candito’s 6 Week Program, or his Linear Program) Thanks![/quote]

I’ve been lifting for 10+ years and still use it.

never

ed coan used sets of 5 linear progression his whole career, i dont have the source but it was said the stronger he felt/was the less sets of 5 he used

i myself still use it and my lifts are relatively decent

[quote]Confinative wrote:
people say “oh after 2 years of consistent lifting stop”
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Who says that specifically?

[quote]Confinative wrote:
What did you guys do to figure out when to switch from linear programming to more traditional strength programming?[/quote]
Also, who told you there was anything more traditional than linear progression? That’s as traditional as it gets.

[quote]Reps for Ozzy wrote:
never

ed coan used sets of 5 linear progression his whole career, i dont have the source but it was said the stronger he felt/was the less sets of 5 he used

i myself still use it and my lifts are relatively decent [/quote]

In an interview, Ed said he even used the same progressions with his assistance lifts.

Sorry, I guess by linear I mean adding weight to the bar each week. In the Candito program he says to add 0-10lbs each week depending on how you feel. There’s no way the PLers you guys mentioned continuously added weight each week for multiple years.

[quote]Confinative wrote:
Sorry, I guess by linear I mean adding weight to the bar each week. In the Candito program he says to add 0-10lbs each week depending on how you feel. There’s no way the PLers you guys mentioned continuously added weight each week for multiple years.[/quote]

Nope just keep adding 5 lbs per weight and you’ll be squatting 900 in about 3.5 years, nbd

Stop using it when it stops working. If it’s still working, I have no idea why you’d stop, and if it’s not working, you have no reason to keep using it.

[quote]Confinative wrote:
Sorry, I guess by linear I mean adding weight to the bar each week. In the Candito program he says to add 0-10lbs each week depending on how you feel. There’s no way the PLers you guys mentioned continuously added weight each week for multiple years.[/quote]

I think what you’re missing is that you don’t always have to (or want to) be training at your max. Say my best set of 5 is 395x5 and I set of a goal of 400x5. I’m not going to start a training cycle at 395x5, add 5lbs and expect a PR next week. Instead, I might plan a cycle at 350x5, add 10lbs each week and then try 400x5 on the 6th week. It’s still a linear progression.

You will always have some sort of linear planning and progress but you should at least know how many times a week the big three need to be trained for you…you should know what assistance works and doesn’t, what reps for each of the big 3 works and of course a understanding of peaking which is always a never ending search or refinement of the grail…you training should be different as prescribed cookie cutter workout days will be replaced by when you body is ready for the lift and not just because it’s Monday or whatever…

If it is not broken don’t fix it.

[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:

[quote]Reps for Ozzy wrote:
never

ed coan used sets of 5 linear progression his whole career, i dont have the source but it was said the stronger he felt/was the less sets of 5 he used

i myself still use it and my lifts are relatively decent [/quote]

In an interview, Ed said he even used the same progressions with his assistance lifts.
[/quote]

do you have a link/point me in the right direction to that interview? id like to able to access it in the future when the linear progression argument comes up

Around 18:25. Its Ed, Dave Tate, and Steve Goggins. The whole thing is worth a watch. They pretty much talk about programming and how savage they are.

[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:

Around 18:25. Its Ed, Dave Tate, and Steve Goggins. The whole thing is worth a watch. They pretty much talk about programming and how savage they are.[/quote]

thanks, much appreciated

there is a huge difference between linear periodization and linear progression. linear progression is what OP is talking about,ie starting strength, madcow etc., linear periodization is what ed coan and most top guys use.

[quote]Dianaballs wrote:
there is a huge difference between linear periodization and linear progression. linear progression is what OP is talking about,ie starting strength, madcow etc., linear periodization is what ed coan and most top guys use. [/quote]

Technically, OP said “Linear Programming”. I do agree there is a distinction between the linear periodization and linear progression.

its pretty clear he is referring to linear progression