When I Squat Under Load My Stomach Looks Like It's Doing Half-Vacuum

It is a diagnosed mild scoliosis. Main issue is the subluxation at L3-4. I was bracing but evidently half the stomach wasnt firing- the odd part was rather than simply not being extended against the belt it was sucked in. That non perfectly straight spine (which is quite common in mild form) isnt what I had physio/chiropractic care for, but the L3-4 sublux degeneration described as wear and tear but without treatment and core exercises to stabilise it resulted in one leg not firing due to a bone pressing on a nerve.

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Thats how back looks on Xray. Straight up then near top spine curves sideways so a load across the top isnt evenly spread, but posturally you wouldn’t see a difference.

Get a nerve conduction study.

I will add, however, that abdominals recieve innervation from above above L3-4. If i recall correctly, their innervation is from T7-12.

I find it unlikely that this is a coordination issue.

Just confirming, when you inhale to brace, half your abdomen sucks inwards?

Only under load, no load all is normal

You should have told us this from the beginning, you would have spared yourself a bunch of jokes and smart ass remarks.

This or something related to it could potentially be the reason why you have an apparent imbalance in your abs. Ideally you would want to work with a specialist in person, and one who knows a bit about squatting heavy. Unfortunately I can’t help you.

Yeah I’m tapped out of ideas. Anatomically, I don’t think this is related to the L3-4 spinal nerve block, but you should still get it checked out by someone who can see you in person. @chris_ottawa nailed it

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Should you even be squatting under load ?

I’m no doctor, but I would advise against it for now, at least until the issue is sorted out. Scoliosis doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t lift, Lamar Gant was one of the best lifters and had major scoliosis, but it can increase the risk of injury. Add the fact that the OP can’t brace properly, plus he has already had spinal injuries from degeneration, it’s just not worth the risk. Unless he was an elite powerlifter who suddenly developed some of these issues and was willing to take the risk (which is still a highly questionable decision), the risk greatly outweighs any potential reward at the moment.

Yeah i got scoliosis in the therasic area… with him mentioning a degenerative condition. The question was rhetorical in nature. As you mentioned there is no benefit in it.

There was this old guy (jbackos) who used to post here, he had mild scoliosis and squatted over 700 in single ply back in the day. That alone doesn’t mean you can’t lift, but it’s a risk factor for sure.

Me or the Op?

Anyone with scoliosis I guess. I’m not trying to give you advice because I know you have been lifting for a long time and you know what you are doing.

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Thanks for the vote of confidence… i think you might be one of a handful that think that. Since i really don’t go out of my way to explain stuff to others. Along with not quoting some studies since that not my thing.

No I just thought you was thinking I may not be lifting because of my own scoliosis. Just wanted to make sure we weren’t miscommunicating.

On a side note its a bitch to squat with… since a loaded bar likes to sit weird on the shelf.

But you don’t compete anymore, if I was you I would just use a SSB instead.

Yep… which i am at the moment.

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The scoliosis is not degenerative, it’s the L3L4 subluxation that is but the word here is used in the context of normal wear and tear not some disease/condition. The majority of the population have degeneration which gets worse with age due to poor posture and sitting for long periods.

The actual reason why I had the disc issue is hard to say. Could have been sit ups, deadlifts, sitting or a stupid static contraction training program or all of the above, but it’s definitely not reason to stop training. Training (provided it’s not stupid) should protect you from injury not the opposite.

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