[quote]elliottcorum wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
200 pounds ADDED for pull ups and 225 pounds ADDED for dips?
Not sure if serious.[/quote]
I’m completely serious. I’m at +140 x 5 for dips and I’m weak. I just did pullups with +115 for five singles and I’m disgusted at my pansy weak lats. When I can dip +225 and pullup +200 then I’ll be strong. This whole topic is subjective to our own definitions of strong and weak.[/quote]
Are you saying you view yourself as weak at these movements or weak overall?
To me, if you can’t move your body through space athletically, there’s no point. When I consider really ‘strong’ dudes, I think of sports athletes who can sprint, jump, hit and fall and also lift ‘big’ weights. Through my experience of most areas of the spectrum, from pursuing purely endurance based sports to purely powerlifting, I found the middle ground of maintaining a high level of both the hardest.
Rugby League and Rugby Union players who can play an 80 minute game, constantly tackling, running, and hitting the ball up, and have a 180kg (405 pound) bench press - that’s fucken strong as shit.
As a Competitive Endurance Athlete (Cycling, XC skate Skiing) I like the fact that I can Squat 1.75x Bw, Bench Bw x3 and deadlift 2.25x Bw. I think most americans( 65% fat !) would be happy to bench their Bw once, or maybe they are just happy to get their fat ass off the toilet without getting three red lights ; )
Anyway…in general I believe strong to be Squat 2.5x Bw, Bench 1.5+x Bw and Dead 3.0x Bw. Just my opinion for the general
Joe schmoe out there, living in a world of CrapFit Planet Fatness !
Yes, all Americans are fat. Oh, wait.