On further thought, I’d have to say that
the improvement in my popularity that
came along with further size has really
been only or mostly with petite women
(5’3" down to 4’10") and with women
who were somewhat overfat. It may be
correct that taller women in good shape
are turned off by bigger size.
Maybe to petite women, just about all men
are so much bigger and stronger than they
are that they don’t even think about
strength as being an issue with regards
to whether they are more likely to get
beat up. Whereas a woman who is say 5’8"
and athletic, may well feel she can
hold her own with a Calvin Klein guy,
but not with someone over 200 lb, and
therefore she prefers to avoid the bigger
guys. That would make sense.
I t all depends on your attitude. When I was like 215-220, chicks wouldn’t even talk to me. I thought it was because I was too big, but it was really just because I was an asshole. I was bigger and stronger than everyone around me and I just acted like an asshole. Now that I’m a little bit older and wiser (I’m still a pup at 21), I do alright with girls even though I’m around 250-260. So all along it had nothing to do with size, but rather with the fact that I was an asshole. Do what I did, hide the fact that you’re an asshole around girls and be an asshole when they’re not around!
Hey, what is your number?? Nah, sorry, my bo would kill me.
Anyway, to try to answer your query; you need to start focusing on fitness women or bodybuilding women. They will not be threatened, understand that you need to workout and maybe you’ll gain a training partner.
I find it ironic that so many women think men who bodybuild are abusers. In all my life, it has always been the opposite. The really big guys are soft spoken (except when lifting), gentle and absolutely sweet. Beanpoles ( some, not all) on the other hand tend to be threatened by any women who is somewhat strong.
Could it be that if a guys looks really big, a girl would think maybe he’s on steriods and he might ‘roid rage’ on her? I don’t even know of it actually happening but that’s what goes around. If the girl isn’t up on things like we are, maybe that’s what she’d think.
OK, tonite I was told I looked “gross” by a couple cuties at the gym. Granted, I’m down a couple % in BF and I’m a little more veiny, but COME ON! I go to the gym to improve my body and they say it’s gross? Sorry, what do they expect, for me to look like, the Sta-puf marshmallow dude? As far as fitness girls around here, very scarce. See, here in Wyoming the women aren’t into fitness or lifting for the most part. They prefer to bloat up on alcohol at the bar every weekend and they avoid any kind of physical exertion(we call 'em snow pigs up here). Maybe I am a freak and need to move to a different part of the country where I’ll be “normal” by most standards. I know when I go back home on vacation (Illinois) I’m treated like a god or something. I guess the women there are more normal or they consider me normal.
The main reason I like bigger guys is because of my height. At 5’11, I like being married to 6’4 beefy guy. Since I’m as tall as an average man, I like how “little” my husband makes me feel. Skinny guys look to “fragile” to me. I like the fact that my husband is the only guy I’ve ever wrestled with that can actually pin me where I can’t move. I like that if he wants to he can pick up my 135 lb body with very little effort. Why would tall girls like smaller built men? I just don’t see it.
I think alot of you are missing a point. Women like (in aggregate of course) actractive TALL fit men. They all have their own prefferences, but by and large, fattness shortness and being ugly are instant turn offs for women. Confidence is still more important than all these other things combined. If you are not good looking (and if you have to ask, your are ugly, unconfident or both) not tall, and beefy (especially if you are too fat) women will NOT go like you. There are some women with short body builder fetishes (stripers), but being a drug dealer or biker will usually do. Get slim and confident, the rest is easy.
i work as a bouncer here in mass, i’m 5’8 at 275lbs. and i’ll tell you this, theres not one night that goes by, that at least 3 or 4 girls don’t stop and feel my arms or stops and flirts with me. personally, i think most of you are dead wrong. most girls love big strong guys. Sure, some don’t, but who cares, i no longer train for women, i train to be a freak of nature, to have the strength of 3 men. Thats what i care about. Trust me, whenever you stand out in a crowd, whether it be by how u dress, or how u look, your going to get girls interested. When every other guy looks like a carbon copy of the next guy, They will be drawn to something different. The absolute best thing you can do, is show them your not a brute, and your not going to hurt them, i agree on that point. when u are big, they feel you will crush them. sometimes just smileing at them will break them down.
Hey KDP250. I’m from Illinois too. Since you’ll be around, I’ll tell you the hotspots - places where muscles are part of the dress code.
Go to *any* State U college town. Macomb, Illinois is an absolute hedonists's paradise. Change the Pace is really cool, especially during the school year. Champaign (home of U of I) is another great place. Go to Kam's or C.O. Daniel's for lots of girls who really dig the muscle image. Blooming-Normal is home of the Pub II (named in the '97 issue of Playboy Magazine as a top 100 bar). That place will blow your mind. The Pub II has more 9's and 10's, per capita, than any other place I've been (yes, I've been to NYC and I just returned from Cali). The scene is a little different, since it's more of a "talk bar." However, CLUB 110 in Bloomington-Normal is the place to be for freakin McNastys. Of course Chicago is always a good time, so I won't mention it.
Incidentally, clubs are much better than pubs, in terms of meeting women who are attracted to muscles. When you hit the dance floor, all that matters is flesh in action. If you can surprise the ladies with some "muscular grace," then I guarentee you won't go home alone. (Not that I partake in such immorality, mind you. I'm merely a keen observer, a sociologist of sorts.)
I have to agree with Bill Roberts. I don’t know why, but being 6’5", 255 pounds (used to be 220 when I was dating) I have NEVER dated a girl bigger than about 5’4". The taller ones just don’t seem to go for guys my size…I can’t explain it. Fortunatly, I have always been attracted to tiny small women…dated a girl for 4 years that was 4’11…WHAT a sight us walking down the street together!! Perhaps the girls can explain it, but I usually see very tall girls with short skinny guys, then you see the real tiny ladies with tall guys like me…who knows why…but I do like it!! There are things you can do with a 5’2" 95 pound girl that just cannot be done with a 5’11" 150 pounder…LOL!! Bring on the spinners!!!
i think the majority of ladies do go for the athletic look… ive dieted down quit a bit and for shits and grins put my pic up at ratemyface.com… to see what the general lady thinks, so far… im going to stay lean and “athletic” here is the url to my pic to see what im trying to accomplish… this is the look i have decided to stay with.
Mike you dogg! Looking good bro! Damn, that’s what I’d like to be looking like. You are shredded bro! Nice job. Tell me, is a lot of it genetic? Or plenty of hard work, proper nutrition and training??? The photo of you with the glasses almost looks like Kevin Levrone! And the shirtless pic reminds me of “Buff Bagewell.” Grow the goatee bro! Then you’ll be top dog! Hey, I read your profile. If you want better hits, you may want to tweak it a bit. I bet that would make a difference.
nate dogg… it is not genetics at all… i really bust my azz for this look, training is easy… its the diet that will get you ripped, about 1700-2200 calories a day, then 1 free day a week. you really need to find what works for you. in currently on the t-dawg diet and i think so far, its about the same as a lower fat diet(as for results) but i have only been on it for a week now. hay, as long as i get my free day, i can ussually stick with any diet.
Whopper, on reading your post, I re-read
mine, and saw a horrendous typo I want to
correct. It was supposed to mean, attractiveness went up with petite women
and, as a side note, also to some extent with women who
average height but a little
overfat. It did not mean both petite and
overfat at the same time. My 4’10" girlfriend is in
very good shape, very trim, and I agree completely how the smaller size adds versatility and fun!
Bill!! 4’10"…hmmm…I am envious I agree with you tho that the taller chunky girls do go for big guys as well…I hadn’t thought about that until your newest post, but you are right…any woman over 5’4" who has liked me had usually been overweight. The only issue I have ever had in my life with the little dolls I dated…is that slow dancing usually doesn’t work too well…especially when their head tends to end up at around lower pec level, even in heels. Standing kissing also has a few issues…but the vixen and I have found that having her stand on the first step of the deck when I come home works very well, or else…my favorite, just pick her up!!
I agree with you tho that the taller chunky girls do go for big guys as well…I hadn’t thought about that until your newest post, but you are right…any woman over 5’4" who has liked me had usually been overweight. The only issue I have ever had in my life with the little dolls I dated…is that slow dancing usually doesn’t work too well…especially when their head tends to end up at around lower pec level, even in heels. Standing kissing also has a few issues…but the vixen and I have found that having her stand on the first step of the deck when I come home works very well, or else…my favorite, just pick her up!!