What Women Consider Bulky

Amen.

No, I don’t want to be treated like shit. I appreciate genuine kindness – that is, when somebody actually takes the trouble to consider how you feel, or check up on how you’re doing. That takes far more effort than simply being a pushover “nice guy.” All of us, eventually, will go through times when we need somebody’s kindness.

What’s frustrating is a “nice” guy who’s too shy to talk, or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree!

[quote]sluicy wrote:
Along the lines of this discussion:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/bikini-showdown-models-versus-actresses[/quote]

This article sucks IMO.
Ana Faris > Miranda Kerr???

(http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20090624/SPL108020_007.jpg)
(http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20090623/miranda_kerr_08.jpg)

Mmmm, I don’t think so.

Maybe I’m weird, but whereas I consider the ideal man to be more like Stallone or Arnold, I consider the ideal woman to be… basically any Victorias Secret model. Thin and fit.
Liking muscularity in men doesn’t have to mean liking muscularity in women.

That said, I don’t have a type at all, I enjoy women on all ends of the spectrum, except for fat lard asses.
Jessica Biel = HOT (muscular)
Keira Knightley = HOT (skinny)
Katherine McPhee = HOT (a little “round”)

For this discussion about “nice vs. not nice” I think it would be important to distinguish the enormous difference between being disrespectful to a woman and not being a suckup.

Alisa, you often seem to say what I was going to say only much more articulate-ly. :slight_smile:

Also, every self-described ‘nice’ guy I’ve met has always been a passive aggressive creepy bastard with no backbone. Who also constantly complain that women prefer abusive assholes to nice guys. No, given a choice between two assholes, they prefer the upfront assholes to the shady backhanded assholes.

[quote]AlisaV wrote:
or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree![/quote]

This is kind of off the wall, but…

For the love of God, when a dude asks you “Where do you want to go to eat?” Answer him!

We don’t ask this to kiss ass. We know what we want, but considering the last 35 times we asked you, you said “Whatever, I don’t care.” We always picked were we ate, and damn it I’m starting to feel bad, because you don’t seem to like BBQ as much as I do.

And I’m going to pick a steak house, BBQ joint or Mexican every time. I know you have a preference, make it known.

[quote]debraD wrote:
Also, every self-described ‘nice’ guy I’ve met has always been a passive aggressive creepy bastard with no backbone. Who also constantly complain that women prefer abusive assholes to nice guys. No, given a choice between two assholes, they prefer the upfront assholes to the shady backhanded assholes.[/quote]

You’re absolutely right, Deb.

I’m usually described as a nice guy, but my ‘problem’ is that I have a dry and sarcastic sense of humor. I will often times act like the victim and that can come off as being passive-aggressive, which i’m not at all, but many guys are. It’s caused quite a few misunderstandings. I do it out of habit and I try to watch what I say, but I still manage to put my foot in my mouth a little too often with people who don’t know me well enough to know me better.

Another problem is that when I really like someone, i’ll compliment them pretty regularly and I think that it could cause them to think that i’m just blowing smoke up their ass or i’m not being sincere, when I honestly am. I’m trying to find the right balance of the two.

When they get to know me better and that i’m not just another asshole with an agenda, things get SO much easier.

Didn’t have time to read the whole thread, going to work but just wanted to say to OP’s link. The “Bulky” women… hahahhaah bulky? You kidding me. I say those are not, perhaps a little bit toned but nowhere near bulky.

[quote]debraD wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

right, which is why im “average” because im extremely good looking but have an awful personality.
.

Well, I guess you are lucky because, once (most) girls start saying how nice you are, then you are fucked and will never get anywhere.

no, because the girls think im an asshole BEFORE i sleep with them. i need to learn to pretend to be nice for like 2 hours or a week, depending, and then i can be ‘myself’ after i dont ever have to speak to them again.

I’ve been nice to plenty of girls. Never got me anywhere.

Not to totally agree with you but there is something about a ‘nice’ guy that gets on my nerves. It’s usually excessive, overly saccharin and transparent and I often find I don’t trust them. I also hate Wayne Gretzky though.

But without being an asshole, I love when a guy antagonizes and argues with me. I hate when a guy agrees with everything I say and kisses my ass. But I live to argue though. Actually I love when anyone argues with me, man or woman. Most women don’t though. It’s a shame. It’s such fun.[/quote]

So which is it ? You are a lesbian or hell to live with ?

Most women would say this guy is too bulky. But I’m sure he has found a woman that is into muscular guys. She might even bitch if he gets to small for her liking. As for personality, do you want a buddy or a soul mate.

[quote]winkroar3 wrote:
debraD wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

right, which is why im “average” because im extremely good looking but have an awful personality.
.

Well, I guess you are lucky because, once (most) girls start saying how nice you are, then you are fucked and will never get anywhere.

no, because the girls think im an asshole BEFORE i sleep with them. i need to learn to pretend to be nice for like 2 hours or a week, depending, and then i can be ‘myself’ after i dont ever have to speak to them again.

I’ve been nice to plenty of girls. Never got me anywhere.

Not to totally agree with you but there is something about a ‘nice’ guy that gets on my nerves. It’s usually excessive, overly saccharin and transparent and I often find I don’t trust them. I also hate Wayne Gretzky though.

But without being an asshole, I love when a guy antagonizes and argues with me. I hate when a guy agrees with everything I say and kisses my ass. But I live to argue though. Actually I love when anyone argues with me, man or woman. Most women don’t though. It’s a shame. It’s such fun.

So which is it ? You are a lesbian or hell to live with ?[/quote]

Haha! I’m not a lesbian :wink:

I don’t think I’m all that unique either. Learn the phrase “Not necessarily…” :wink:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree!

This is kind of off the wall, but…

For the love of God, when a dude asks you “Where do you want to go to eat?” Answer him!

We don’t ask this to kiss ass. We know what we want, but considering the last 35 times we asked you, you said “Whatever, I don’t care.” We always picked were we ate, and damn it I’m starting to feel bad, because you don’t seem to like BBQ as much as I do.

And I’m going to pick a steak house, BBQ joint or Mexican every time. I know you have a preference, make it known.
[/quote]

My parents used to have this dicussion every single time we went out for dinner.

It amused the hell out of me as a kid.

Now, they don’t have any problem with finding a place, since my mother has drained his soul from him as the years (50) drifted by… He’s lost his will to fight.

[quote]sluicy wrote:
debraD wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

right, which is why im “average” because im extremely good looking but have an awful personality.
.

Well, I guess you are lucky because, once (most) girls start saying how nice you are, then you are fucked and will never get anywhere.

no, because the girls think im an asshole BEFORE i sleep with them. i need to learn to pretend to be nice for like 2 hours or a week, depending, and then i can be ‘myself’ after i dont ever have to speak to them again.

I’ve been nice to plenty of girls. Never got me anywhere.

Not to totally agree with you but there is something about a ‘nice’ guy that gets on my nerves. It’s usually excessive, overly saccharin and transparent and I often find I don’t trust them. I also hate Wayne Gretzky though.

I agree with Debra. Live, your “awful personality” issue may just be that you think you are “extremely good looking.” Hubris is terribly off-putting. :-)[/quote]

thanks for calling me ugly. wow

[quote]debraD wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

right, which is why im “average” because im extremely good looking but have an awful personality.
.

Well, I guess you are lucky because, once (most) girls start saying how nice you are, then you are fucked and will never get anywhere.

no, because the girls think im an asshole BEFORE i sleep with them. i need to learn to pretend to be nice for like 2 hours or a week, depending, and then i can be ‘myself’ after i dont ever have to speak to them again.

I’ve been nice to plenty of girls. Never got me anywhere.

Not to totally agree with you but there is something about a ‘nice’ guy that gets on my nerves. It’s usually excessive, overly saccharin and transparent and I often find I don’t trust them. I also hate Wayne Gretzky though.

But without being an asshole, I love when a guy antagonizes and argues with me. I hate when a guy agrees with everything I say and kisses my ass. But I live to argue though. Actually I love when anyone argues with me, man or woman. Most women don’t though. It’s a shame. It’s such fun.[/quote]

So you like men who are confident, secure, and have their own opinions on things that aren’t shaped by the majority norm.

Who would’ve thought.

[quote]imhungry wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree!

This is kind of off the wall, but…

For the love of God, when a dude asks you “Where do you want to go to eat?” Answer him!

We don’t ask this to kiss ass. We know what we want, but considering the last 35 times we asked you, you said “Whatever, I don’t care.” We always picked were we ate, and damn it I’m starting to feel bad, because you don’t seem to like BBQ as much as I do.

And I’m going to pick a steak house, BBQ joint or Mexican every time. I know you have a preference, make it known.

My parents used to have this dicussion every single time we went out for dinner.

It amused the hell out of me as a kid.

Now, they don’t have any problem with finding a place, since my mother has drained his soul from him as the years (50) drifted by… He’s lost his will to fight.[/quote]

ha ha ha ha

I refuse to allow that to happen. I will fight FOREVER.

My wife calls me a bad influence all the time, because her father and uncle suddenly have balls again. I apparently showed them it’s okay to stand up to a woman in that family, because they suddenly do.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
imhungry wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree!

This is kind of off the wall, but…

For the love of God, when a dude asks you “Where do you want to go to eat?” Answer him!

We don’t ask this to kiss ass. We know what we want, but considering the last 35 times we asked you, you said “Whatever, I don’t care.” We always picked were we ate, and damn it I’m starting to feel bad, because you don’t seem to like BBQ as much as I do.

And I’m going to pick a steak house, BBQ joint or Mexican every time. I know you have a preference, make it known.

My parents used to have this dicussion every single time we went out for dinner.

It amused the hell out of me as a kid.

Now, they don’t have any problem with finding a place, since my mother has drained his soul from him as the years (50) drifted by… He’s lost his will to fight.

ha ha ha ha

I refuse to allow that to happen. I will fight FOREVER.

My wife calls me a bad influence all the time, because her father and uncle suddenly have balls again. I apparently showed them it’s okay to stand up to a woman in that family, because they suddenly do.[/quote]

You’re doing god’s work, sir. God’s work…

[quote]winkroar3 wrote:
Most women would say this guy is too bulky. But I’m sure he has found a woman that is into muscular guys. She might even bitch if he gets to small for her liking. As for personality, do you want a buddy or a soul mate.[/quote]

That picture is fake as hell. How does blatant photoshop get by so many people?

[quote]That One Guy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
imhungry wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree!

This is kind of off the wall, but…

For the love of God, when a dude asks you “Where do you want to go to eat?” Answer him!

We don’t ask this to kiss ass. We know what we want, but considering the last 35 times we asked you, you said “Whatever, I don’t care.” We always picked were we ate, and damn it I’m starting to feel bad, because you don’t seem to like BBQ as much as I do.

And I’m going to pick a steak house, BBQ joint or Mexican every time. I know you have a preference, make it known.

My parents used to have this dicussion every single time we went out for dinner.

It amused the hell out of me as a kid.

Now, they don’t have any problem with finding a place, since my mother has drained his soul from him as the years (50) drifted by… He’s lost his will to fight.

ha ha ha ha

I refuse to allow that to happen. I will fight FOREVER.

My wife calls me a bad influence all the time, because her father and uncle suddenly have balls again. I apparently showed them it’s okay to stand up to a woman in that family, because they suddenly do.

You’re doing god’s work, sir. God’s work…[/quote]

Ha ha.

Well my wife is the Ice Queen, we’re talking Super Bitch and proud of it. Dude, people call her a bitch all the time and she is proud of it.

They see me treat her like a normal person, not grovel at her feet, and we get along good. She is nice to me, and I’m nice to her. So they look at their wives and think “Wow if he can be like that to HER and not wake up with a steak knife in his chest, I can surely have an opinion too.” Wiseassedness ensues.

We are talking about two men who have been groveling for decades. Any sign of life, and these feminists get all uppity. I apparently have changed the course of history.

[quote]That One Guy wrote:
debraD wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

right, which is why im “average” because im extremely good looking but have an awful personality.
.

Well, I guess you are lucky because, once (most) girls start saying how nice you are, then you are fucked and will never get anywhere.

no, because the girls think im an asshole BEFORE i sleep with them. i need to learn to pretend to be nice for like 2 hours or a week, depending, and then i can be ‘myself’ after i dont ever have to speak to them again.

I’ve been nice to plenty of girls. Never got me anywhere.

Not to totally agree with you but there is something about a ‘nice’ guy that gets on my nerves. It’s usually excessive, overly saccharin and transparent and I often find I don’t trust them. I also hate Wayne Gretzky though.

But without being an asshole, I love when a guy antagonizes and argues with me. I hate when a guy agrees with everything I say and kisses my ass. But I live to argue though. Actually I love when anyone argues with me, man or woman. Most women don’t though. It’s a shame. It’s such fun.

So you like men who are confident, secure, and have their own opinions on things that aren’t shaped by the majority norm.

Who would’ve thought.
[/quote]

Well, considering the females I have to deal with regularly, I would say that someone like debraD is in the minority.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
imhungry wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
or who’s all “What do YOU want, dear?” Give me something to work with! Have an opinion of your own! It’s okay if we disagree!

This is kind of off the wall, but…

For the love of God, when a dude asks you “Where do you want to go to eat?” Answer him!

We don’t ask this to kiss ass. We know what we want, but considering the last 35 times we asked you, you said “Whatever, I don’t care.” We always picked were we ate, and damn it I’m starting to feel bad, because you don’t seem to like BBQ as much as I do.

And I’m going to pick a steak house, BBQ joint or Mexican every time. I know you have a preference, make it known.

My parents used to have this dicussion every single time we went out for dinner.

It amused the hell out of me as a kid.

Now, they don’t have any problem with finding a place, since my mother has drained his soul from him as the years (50) drifted by… He’s lost his will to fight.

ha ha ha ha

I refuse to allow that to happen. I will fight FOREVER.

My wife calls me a bad influence all the time, because her father and uncle suddenly have balls again. I apparently showed them it’s okay to stand up to a woman in that family, because they suddenly do.

You’re doing god’s work, sir. God’s work…

Ha ha.

Well my wife is the Ice Queen, we’re talking Super Bitch and proud of it. Dude, people call her a bitch all the time and she is proud of it.

They see me treat her like a normal person, not grovel at her feet, and we get along good. She is nice to me, and I’m nice to her. So they look at their wives and think “Wow if he can be like that to HER and not wake up with a steak knife in his chest, I can surely have an opinion too.” Wiseassedness ensues.

We are talking about two men who have been groveling for decades. Any sign of life, and these feminists get all uppity. I apparently have changed the course of history.[/quote]

Nice Marriage persuasion campaign you guys have going.

“Just say NO to marital castration…pre-nupt the heifer.”

[quote]Professor X wrote:
winkroar3 wrote:
Most women would say this guy is too bulky. But I’m sure he has found a woman that is into muscular guys. She might even bitch if he gets to small for her liking. As for personality, do you want a buddy or a soul mate.

That picture is fake as hell. How does blatant photoshop get by so many people?[/quote]

If you look at the shadows you can see it’s not retouched. One day you will see a guy like this and say WOW!