Currently I use Jack3d pre-workout and half a serving of Surge Recovery during and the other half after my workout. After reading through the forums I am more than convinced that I should replace Jack3d.
Any suggestions?
I currently work out three days a week and have a limited budget. Before Jack3d I use to have a cup of coffee and a shake of 1 scoop waxy maze and 1 scoop whey protein.
Im not agreeing or disagreeing with you need to replace jacked. But why do you feel you must replace this product? What do you feel is wrong or insufficient with it?
Most people just seem to react to the high caffeine in Jacked3D. You can just go buy Caffeine pills… I used to pop ‘No-Doze’ when I was in grad-school.
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When the hell did a 3D come out, or do you like displaying poor reading skills? Even though most of us think preworkouts are often a load of crap, we all know its “Jack3d,” and if you took enough time to read the bottle you’d know that too.
Try 1MR. Try Presurge UNLEASHED!
That is, if you can read that on the bottle and not create your own retard product name.
@cally - Consumer Alert: The NO2/Arginine Scam - Part 1 only current benefit is the energy which I also had when I used to drink coffee before my workout
@Stu - Yea, the caffeine helps. Think I’ll just go back to the coffee.
@CapnYousef - Fixed the spelling mistake. Thank you. (Got to love a fellow New Jerseyan.)
Going to use this article as my guide in the future All Articles - T NATION .
There is more to this particular product than just the AKG, specifically beta alanine, creatine, caffeine, and 1-3-dimethylamylamine–a powerful stimulant with effects similar to ephedrine.
If you are dead set on replacing it, the Spike Shotgun would be somewhat comparable.
Wait - does Spike have any vasodilators in it? I mean, I’ve used Spike in the past but never to lift - now I’m curious.
Also, how does Spike Shooter compare to Spike Shotgun - I just realized I’ve been using Spike Shooters not Spike Shotgun
Anything that fires up the SNS will produce vasodilation… I believe caffeine is the most proven ingredient to accomplish that. I haven’t tried any of the Spike products, but have heard that Spike Shooter is strong and really amps up the energy.
I like to take energy/pre-workout supplements that have few ingredients in them or just take caffeine alone (along with bcaa and creatine FTW). I honestly believe less is more, and can’t find myself spending loads of money on products that have paragraphs under their proprietary blends. Biotest does a good job keeping the simple.
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
Wait - does Spike have any vasodilators in it? I mean, I’ve used Spike in the past but never to lift - now I’m curious.
Also, how does Spike Shooter compare to Spike Shotgun - I just realized I’ve been using Spike Shooters not Spike Shotgun[/quote]
Ha Didn’t you just give the OP crap for not reading the label? oh the irony
[quote]cally wrote:
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
Wait - does Spike have any vasodilators in it? I mean, I’ve used Spike in the past but never to lift - now I’m curious.
Also, how does Spike Shooter compare to Spike Shotgun - I just realized I’ve been using Spike Shooters not Spike Shotgun[/quote]
Ha Didn’t you just give the OP crap for not reading the label? oh the irony[/quote]
Welcome to the internet.
Also, isn’t caffeine a vasoconstrictor?
OP, why do you want to replace jack3d? I recently started taking it before my workouts and I love it. Gets me pumped up without being jittery. the only negative I’ve seen is a few afters after I take it my energy crashes. Other than that it’s awesome.
Caffeine does have vasoconstricting properties. Caffeine also up-regulates SNS activity which increases heart rate and force of contraction.
Better product than Jack3d for similar price would be Presurge Unleashed. Caffeine, good creatine and GlycoCarn for the vaso factor.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
and 1-3-dimethylamylamine–a powerful stimulant
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This stuff is what sets it apart from just caffeine and sugar
I’ve tried (sampled) 3 products with GlycoCarn. Its fantastic, though I can’t compare it to the 1-3-dimeth. Jack3d is king of the hill right now, sales and testimonials will show that all day. If you feel you’re becoming tolerant to the stimulants in it, lay off for awhile.
You really won’t find something to surpass it, but you may find a similar (but not better) buzz from Presurge Unleashed and 1MR. Code RED is new and loaded with glycocarn so just see how that flies in your system
Also on the topic of 1-3-dimeth:
Crazy shit.
[quote]CapnYousef wrote:
I’ve tried (sampled) 3 products with GlycoCarn. Its fantastic, though I can’t compare it to the 1-3-dimeth. Jack3d is king of the hill right now, sales and testimonials will show that all day. If you feel you’re becoming tolerant to the stimulants in it, lay off for awhile.
You really won’t find something to surpass it, but you may find a similar (but not better) buzz from Presurge Unleashed and 1MR. Code RED is new and loaded with glycocarn so just see how that flies in your system[/quote]
Curious what the other GlycoCarn products you tried were? I’ve used PSU, have not tried Code Red though. Was there a 3rd?
Code Red, Dark Rage, NO Bomb… I’m not a pre-workout user by any means, I just tried them for purposes of being able to talk about them at work. I have bags of samples of each lol
I took Code Red at 10AM one day, lifted like 20 minutes later for about 45m to an hour of intense shit. Kroc row’d til I near passed out.
2AM that night, I was still wide awake.
Spike before, Surge during.
@Stu - Yea, the caffeine helps. Think I’ll just go back to the coffee.
Yea, considering you have a limited budget, I’d just increase the coffee intake if i felt i wasn’t getting enough out of it.
Shit, Im drinking 8 cups of coffee right now