What Naturals are Truly Capable of...

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth. [/quote]

Bullshit. People believe what most people believe…until someone challenges it. If you really think “perceived limits” can’t hold people back, you don’t understand the human condition.

Not only that, but look at the backlash if ANYONE claims they passed this supposed “limit”.

It isn’t like some of you don’t go all out to disprove anyone who says they do it…and clearly this is because you all aren’t holding anyone back.

Crabs in a bucket.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth. [/quote]

Bullshit. People believe what most people believe…until someone challenges it. If you really think “perceived limits” can’t hold people back, you don’t understand the human condition.

Not only that, but look at the backlash if ANYONE claims they passed this supposed “limit”.

It isn’t like some of you don’t go all out to disprove anyone who says they do it…and clearly this is because you all aren’t holding anyone back.

Crabs in a bucket.[/quote]

Uh, if someone claims to have passed the limit, and isn’t just full of shit, but is telling the truth, than it’s proof they weren’t limited.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth. [/quote]

Bullshit. People believe what most people believe…until someone challenges it. If you really think “perceived limits” can’t hold people back, you don’t understand the human condition.

Not only that, but look at the backlash if ANYONE claims they passed this supposed “limit”.

It isn’t like some of you don’t go all out to disprove anyone who says they do it…and clearly this is because you all aren’t holding anyone back.

Crabs in a bucket.[/quote]

Uh, if someone claims to have passed the limit, and isn’t just full of shit, but is telling the truth, than it’s proof they weren’t limited.[/quote]

It is also proof that many of you believe in these limits even beyond what is right in front of you.

…and not only will you believe them, you will fight tooth and nail to make sure they hold if anyone even comes close to it.

It is one thing to hold a belief personal…and quite another to try as hard as some here do to discredit anyone who challenges it.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth. [/quote]

Bullshit. People believe what most people believe…until someone challenges it. If you really think “perceived limits” can’t hold people back, you don’t understand the human condition.

Not only that, but look at the backlash if ANYONE claims they passed this supposed “limit”.

It isn’t like some of you don’t go all out to disprove anyone who says they do it…and clearly this is because you all aren’t holding anyone back.

Crabs in a bucket.[/quote]

Uh, if someone claims to have passed the limit, and isn’t just full of shit, but is telling the truth, than it’s proof they weren’t limited.[/quote]

Also at least need pics

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth. [/quote]

Bullshit. People believe what most people believe…until someone challenges it. If you really think “perceived limits” can’t hold people back, you don’t understand the human condition.

Not only that, but look at the backlash if ANYONE claims they passed this supposed “limit”.

It isn’t like some of you don’t go all out to disprove anyone who says they do it…and clearly this is because you all aren’t holding anyone back.

Crabs in a bucket.[/quote]

Uh, if someone claims to have passed the limit, and isn’t just full of shit, but is telling the truth, than it’s proof they weren’t limited.[/quote]
Stop limiting everyone bro

If someone constantly shouts “2 + 2 = 5!!!” do you argue with them or just leave them to their ramblings because you know they are wrong and delusional?

Guys with great genetics aren’t interested in professional natty bodybuilding.

We got guys on here who surpassed this sort of natty mass.

With regard to how stringent inbf/wnbf testing: I can say that even at local/regional shows they’re pretty strict. I have competed twice in my hometown’s inbf competition and have been polygraphed the day prior to the contest. However, I will say that only the overall winner (the guy and gal that get their pro cards) are subjected to more detailed tests. This definitely has to with the cost factor, as they could never afford to test all of the individual class winners. I guess it’s a good and bad thing, since the newly turned pro is receiving closer scrutiny which means the pros are (hopefully) less likely enhanced.

Also in before someone calls BS about the pro card winners being tested. In 2010 the overall winner of the competition came up dirty and was stripped of his card and banned for life from the federation. AND the 2011 women’s winner was also banned and DQd. They announce it to all of the competitors via email several weeks after the comp. They apparently take their piss right after the announcements of the overall winner (at the night show).

I dont really beleive there is a ‘limit’ just a point of exponentially dimishing returns.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
If some chart or equation on a website is going to make you give up on your goal of building the best physique you can, you didn’t have what it would take to be your best anyway.[/quote]

Truth. [/quote]

Bullshit. People believe what most people believe…until someone challenges it. If you really think “perceived limits” can’t hold people back, you don’t understand the human condition.

Not only that, but look at the backlash if ANYONE claims they passed this supposed “limit”.

It isn’t like some of you don’t go all out to disprove anyone who says they do it…and clearly this is because you all aren’t holding anyone back.

Crabs in a bucket.[/quote]

Uh, if someone claims to have passed the limit, and isn’t just full of shit, but is telling the truth, than it’s proof they weren’t limited.[/quote]

It is also proof that many of you believe in these limits even beyond what is right in front of you.

…and not only will you believe them, you will fight tooth and nail to make sure they hold if anyone even comes close to it.

It is one thing to hold a belief personal…and quite another to try as hard as some here do to discredit anyone who challenges it.[/quote]

How about challenging it with evidence?

[quote]Waittz wrote:
I dont really beleive there is a ‘limit’ just a point of exponentially dimishing returns.[/quote]

And the line that “exponential” approaches but never reaches is mathematically defined as a limit. lol.

[quote]Waittz wrote:
I dont really beleive there is a ‘limit’ just a point of exponentially dimishing returns.[/quote]

Exponentially diminishing returns is the mathematical equivalent of a limit. The only way to physically reach the limit is an infinite amount of time.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
I dont really beleive there is a ‘limit’ just a point of exponentially dimishing returns.[/quote]

And the line that “exponential” approaches but never reaches is mathematically defined as a limit. lol.[/quote]

Damn, you beat me too it! I was writing the same thing and was going to get super technical, then thought, meh, this is good enough haha.

Wow. I was joking when I brought up talking about ‘limits’ again. I truly didn’t expect to turn this thread into LIMITS 3.0.

Seriously guys? You dont get satire?

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
I dont really beleive there is a ‘limit’ just a point of exponentially dimishing returns.[/quote]

Exponentially diminishing returns is the mathematical equivalent of a limit. The only way to physically reach the limit is an infinite amount of time. [/quote]

Perfect double post from two ppl

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Seriously guys? You dont get satire? [/quote]

Sorry, I must have missed the inflection in your font.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Wow. I was joking when I brought up talking about ‘limits’ again. I truly didn’t expect to turn this thread into LIMITS 3.0. [/quote]
I’m going to get a jump start on the LIMITS 4.0 thread.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Seriously guys? You dont get satire? [/quote]

Sorry, I must have missed the inflection in your font.[/quote]

fucking lol