Ya know, ignoring the post would have given it less credence and would be a bigger benefit to the forum than what was posted.
Just sayin.
Aaaaaaaanyway, programming and nutrition for a newbie is EASY compared to and intermediate or advanced lifter.
Start with a basic template and their bodies SHOULD respond easily because they have a ton or untapped potential.
Well this had potential until childish arguments derailed yet another thread completely off track. Getting real sick of this guys. Stop blaming people and worry about yourself
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
If youâre a brand new weight trainer that has never lifted before and wants to be big and lean it is best, IMO, to get on a basic split.
One that focuses on strength increases in the big 4 lifts while making sure to hit enough accessory work to keep you balanced.
Something like 5/3/1 is a decent start to get the basics down.
You have to crawl before you walk sort of thing.
It would also be in the trainees best interest to have a coach or lifting partner who can show him or her how to properly preform exercises, not just throw weight around.
Do this basic split for 6-8 months and then think about tweaking the ha from there based on goals.
A solid strength foundation in the basics is a great start before you get I to all the blast cluster hypertrophy intermuscular sarcoplazma inducing mechanical assisted drop set 21âs for da sick gainzzzz.
K.I.S.S. in the beginning and asses progress as you go along to make tweaks.[/quote]
Uh, this would be false. You canât just throw out a plan like that. A full DNA profile would have to be generated first and genealogical research would have to be performed back to no less than five generations.[/quote]
Lol
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Dem coliseum genetics. Id pay good money to see Bauber go 1 on 1 with with a wild boar.
[quote]mezcal wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
If youâre a brand new weight trainer that has never lifted before and wants to be big and lean it is best, IMO, to get on a basic split.
One that focuses on strength increases in the big 4 lifts while making sure to hit enough accessory work to keep you balanced.
Something like 5/3/1 is a decent start to get the basics down.
You have to crawl before you walk sort of thing.
It would also be in the trainees best interest to have a coach or lifting partner who can show him or her how to properly preform exercises, not just throw weight around.
Do this basic split for 6-8 months and then think about tweaking the ha from there based on goals.
A solid strength foundation in the basics is a great start before you get I to all the blast cluster hypertrophy intermuscular sarcoplazma inducing mechanical assisted drop set 21âs for da sick gainzzzz.
K.I.S.S. in the beginning and asses progress as you go along to make tweaks.[/quote]
Uh, this would be false. You canât just throw out a plan like that. A full DNA profile would have to be generated first and genealogical research would have to be performed back to no less than five generations.[/quote]
Please, tell the forum what you were attempting to accomplish with this post. Seriously. Please justify this with something other than yet another snarky, belligerent, self-serving, petulant post.
If you canât (which, sneak preview, you canât), then youâre contributing to the bullshit that goes on in these forums as much as your nemesis.[/quote]
Iâm very sorry sir. A thousand pardons.
And LOL @ ânemesis.â
[quote]mezcal wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
If youâre a brand new weight trainer that has never lifted before and wants to be big and lean it is best, IMO, to get on a basic split.
One that focuses on strength increases in the big 4 lifts while making sure to hit enough accessory work to keep you balanced.
Something like 5/3/1 is a decent start to get the basics down.
You have to crawl before you walk sort of thing.
It would also be in the trainees best interest to have a coach or lifting partner who can show him or her how to properly preform exercises, not just throw weight around.
Do this basic split for 6-8 months and then think about tweaking the ha from there based on goals.
A solid strength foundation in the basics is a great start before you get I to all the blast cluster hypertrophy intermuscular sarcoplazma inducing mechanical assisted drop set 21âs for da sick gainzzzz.
K.I.S.S. in the beginning and asses progress as you go along to make tweaks.[/quote]
Uh, this would be false. You canât just throw out a plan like that. A full DNA profile would have to be generated first and genealogical research would have to be performed back to no less than five generations.[/quote]
Please, tell the forum what you were attempting to accomplish with this post. Seriously. Please justify this with something other than yet another snarky, belligerent, self-serving, petulant post.
If you canât (which, sneak preview, you canât), then youâre contributing to the bullshit that goes on in these forums as much as your nemesis.[/quote]
He made me laugh, which is the secunde directive of the internet (the prime directive of course being pornography). This isnât the board meeting of a retirement home; itâs okay to crack jokes. SS is just being funny like always. I like these forums better when theyâre funny and not serious.
What did your post accomplish? (sneak preview, it was a buzzkill)
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Itâs strange, Utah. I feel as if people have regurgitated the majority of that information many times now, but I canât be sure. The only way of knowing is to see whoâs been to medical school and who hasnât.[/quote]
This made me laugh crazy hard
[quote]csulli wrote:
What did your post accomplish? (sneak preview, it was a buzzkill)[/quote]
âWho here likes a good story about a bridge?â - Buzz Killington
[quote]Highjumper wrote:
Well this had potential until childish arguments derailed yet another thread completely off track. Getting real sick of this guys. Stop blaming people and worry about yourself[/quote]
x2
This is getting really stupid. I last checked this thread on the 28th and itâs already like 15 pages longer from nothing but pure bullshit.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
People act like wrestling was banned from the Olympics.
It wasnt.
They just donât have an automatic slot anymore and have to petition or whatever for a spot.
They will petition and they will get a slot no problems.
Wrestling isnât going anywhere.
/on the off topic rambling reply ramblings
First time poster, lurker since 2004âŠSorry for my EnglishâŠ
Since there isnât an accurate mathematical modelling of the human body nobody knows what is the natural limit of the human body as far as lbm is concerned. I mean there isnât an equation where we can plug in some numbers and get as a result this ânatural limitâ. We can make a rough estimation based on the top natural bodybuilders but 1) their contest weight and shape is different than what people consider as lean (add at least 10 pounds on the contest weight) 2) best bodybuilders are not the the ones who are the most heavy and lean.
Bodybuilding is not the sport of âwhoâs got the most lbm and being the leanerâ. I know two guys in various sports (wrestling and basketball) who are very lean (6-10% bf) and weigh almost the same as this ânatural limit lbm numbersâ suggest. (one of these guys is 5â10 and weighs 210 lbs). They have never touched a weight in their lifeâŠBoth of them have huge legs and small upper bodies. So what do u think would happen if these guys started lifting weights? They would add lbm and would be over the ânatural limitâ easily. Does this makes them top natural bodybuilders?
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Keep yapping though. For a thread on Natural achievement, I thought that being a competitor as well as a WNBF/INBF contest judge might allow me to provide some good insight. Iâll just leave it to you though. Youâve read muscle magazines for a long time, and also train at the same gym as a few NPC competitors. It holds the same water. Iâm out, enjoy the thread, itâs all about you now anyway (again).[/quote]
Prof X seems like a knowledgeable guy with real world experience. He is also a big buy and he claims to be natural. Iâm not sure for the last part but to be honest I donât care. His post are right to the point and he has a straightforward approach. On the contrary u pretend to be an elite level coach (like the most of the coaches here who claim elite status but they have just trained their girlfriends) but u r just a clown. You also look like an anorexic virgin girl compared to Prof X. Iâve read many of your posts and honestly thereâs nothing useful in them. So please stfu.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
I tried wrestling for 2 weeks lol. They put me with the huge linemen types during practice and I was manhandling them (A good wrestler would have destroyed me had no clue what I was doing I was just stronger and quicker). Got bored quick and really wasnât into it. Had more fun throwing shot and disc/ flirting with the track babes than wrestling sweaty dudes.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
I tried wrestling for 2 weeks lol. They put me with the huge linemen types during practice and I was manhandling them (A good wrestler would have destroyed me had no clue what I was doing I was just stronger and quicker). Got bored quick and really wasnât into it. Had more fun throwing shot and disc/ flirting with the track babes than wrestling sweaty dudes.
[/quote]
I tried wrestling, too. But, by the time I got the lube on, both me and the pig were exhaus⊠wait, wrong thread⊠sorry.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
I tried wrestling for 2 weeks lol. They put me with the huge linemen types during practice and I was manhandling them (A good wrestler would have destroyed me had no clue what I was doing I was just stronger and quicker). Got bored quick and really wasnât into it. Had more fun throwing shot and disc/ flirting with the track babes than wrestling sweaty dudes.
[/quote]
I tried wrestling, too. But, by the time I got the lube on, both me and the pig were exhaus⊠wait, wrong thread⊠sorry.
[/quote]
Please, tell the forum what you were attempting to accomplish with this post. Seriously. Please justify this with something other than yet another snarky, belligerent, self-serving, petulant post.
If you canât (which, sneak preview, you canât), then youâre contributing to the bullshit that goes on in these forums as much as your nemesis.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
People act like wrestling was banned from the Olympics.
It wasnt.
They just donât have an automatic slot anymore and have to petition or whatever for a spot.
They will petition and they will get a slot no problems.
Wrestling isnât going anywhere.
/on the off topic rambling reply ramblings
[/quote]
I was under the impression that it had essentially come down to a choice between wrestling or baseball/softball. Which if it is the case is not exactly a slam dunk.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
I tried wrestling for 2 weeks lol. They put me with the huge linemen types during practice and I was manhandling them (A good wrestler would have destroyed me had no clue what I was doing I was just stronger and quicker). Got bored quick and really wasnât into it. Had more fun throwing shot and disc/ flirting with the track babes than wrestling sweaty dudes.
[/quote]
I tried wrestling, too. But, by the time I got the lube on, both me and the pig were exhaus⊠wait, wrong thread⊠sorry.
[/quote]
Please, tell the forum what you were attempting to accomplish with this post. Seriously. Please justify this with something other than yet another snarky, belligerent, self-serving, petulant post.
If you canât (which, sneak preview, you canât), then youâre contributing to the bullshit that goes on in these forums as much as your nemesis.
:)[/quote]
That he fucks pigs.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
People act like wrestling was banned from the Olympics.
It wasnt.
They just donât have an automatic slot anymore and have to petition or whatever for a spot.
They will petition and they will get a slot no problems.
Wrestling isnât going anywhere.
/on the off topic rambling reply ramblings
[/quote]
I was under the impression that it had essentially come down to a choice between wrestling or baseball/softball. Which if it is the case is not exactly a slam dunk. [/quote]
Synchronized swimming, ping pong and ribbon dancing get into the Olympics.
Iâm sure wrestling will be fine
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
I tried wrestling for 2 weeks lol. They put me with the huge linemen types during practice and I was manhandling them (A good wrestler would have destroyed me had no clue what I was doing I was just stronger and quicker). Got bored quick and really wasnât into it. Had more fun throwing shot and disc/ flirting with the track babes than wrestling sweaty dudes.
[/quote]
Do public schools in Tennessee wrestle or is it just private? I knew that the private ones did but unsure of the others.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
So how about someone starts posting some pics of legit well developed naturals so we can get this back on track and give some of us Natty losers some inspirational physiques? [/quote]
100% all naturale[/quote]
When you got up to 225 naturally, what was your bodyfat? Abs visible?
[/quote]
This is me at 235 when I was playing ball still and I was natural.[/quote]
Hell of a physique man! What did you play?[/quote]
I played middle linebacker. Had good size, but not the speed to be anything special.
[/quote]
I really wish that a sport like wrestling was big in the south because of guys that look like you that are obviously strong as bull but maybe not as fast as some others. Not saying that you would have wrestled or necessarily been good but I think our Olympic committee would do themselves a service to try to spread certain sports further than there one little region. (This is of course assuming that wrestling gets back into the Olympics)
/off-topic rambling[/quote]
I tried wrestling for 2 weeks lol. They put me with the huge linemen types during practice and I was manhandling them (A good wrestler would have destroyed me had no clue what I was doing I was just stronger and quicker). Got bored quick and really wasnât into it. Had more fun throwing shot and disc/ flirting with the track babes than wrestling sweaty dudes.
[/quote]
I tried wrestling, too. But, by the time I got the lube on, both me and the pig were exhaus⊠wait, wrong thread⊠sorry.
[/quote]
Please, tell the forum what you were attempting to accomplish with this post. Seriously. Please justify this with something other than yet another snarky, belligerent, self-serving, petulant post.
If you canât (which, sneak preview, you canât), then youâre contributing to the bullshit that goes on in these forums as much as your nemesis.
:)[/quote]
Ya know, ignoring the post would have given it less credence and would be a bigger benefit to the forum than what was posted.
Just sayin.
Aaaaaaaanyway, programming and nutrition for a newbie is EASY compared to and intermediate or advanced lifter.
Start with a basic template and their bodies SHOULD respond easily because they have a ton or untapped potential.
