Sarden made a good one. But I’m not sure if they are still around
[quote]Dr. Ryan wrote:
I love the EliteFTS GHR with the large pad and platform. You can do the movement from a narrow stance all the way out to a sumo or power squat stance. I have actually also hooked bands around the anchor on the bottom and done a reverse hyper movement. Feels pretty good, the angle of the pad is actually more comfortable on the pelvis than the real reverse hyper. Your legs don’t swing as far down/under which cuts down on the momentum and the amount of lumbar flexion as well.
Take care,
Ryan[/quote]
Doc I thought that the lumbar flexion was a good thing, and that was what was being referred to when PLers talked about how the rev hyper “tractioned” the lower back. It’s somehting to be avoided?
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
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Hanging off something and raising your legs isnt the same as a reverse hyper machine - and you dont need a ghr to do that anyway.
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like the rear elevation? put a box, or some boards under it…
what does everyone think of this one?
http://www.midwestbarbell.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=42 [/quote]
I’ve actually got that one. It works, but it’s a bit rickety, you definitely are getting what you pay for. I use it for GHR, Reverse hypers, and Roman Chair situps. It’s functional in a minimal sort of way. If you’re a powerlifter or real serious/big get one of the higher class ones, if you want this as a sometimes accessory item then it’s not too bad.
They are the actual manufacturers of most the sorinex, westside and elite equipment. Prices are usually a bit cheaper
do magnumfitness make glutehams etc for elitefts, samson etc? we were buying from elitefts.com and shipping was too expensive and our supplier informed us that magnum make them for all these companies to spec. so to bypass the shipping problem we just got magnum to build to elitefts.com specs.
anyone concur this? does magnumfitness make this stuff for elitefts and samson
is this an elitefts model?
I love my Power Lift. Expensive but worth it IMO. Alot of big colleges and pro football teams have these.
[quote]Dr. Ryan wrote:
I love the EliteFTS GHR … I have actually also hooked bands around the anchor on the bottom and done a reverse hyper movement.[/quote]
brilliant
I have used several GHR machines and decided to purchase the Sorinex model. I love this machine! If you look at the stuff on the elitefts site and the sorinex site, you will see many pieces of equipment that are identical.
As far as “putting boxes under the back end” to make it more difficult, I think a better idea is to use bands. Of course, the Sorinex (and maybe the elitefts) GHR allows u to raise or lower your feet without using boxes. According to Dave Tate, this is an important point. Dave says that the angle of incline of the front pad is important and that puttin the back of the ghr up on boxes changes this angle. As far as the angle of the front pad on the Sorinex machine, if you think the angle is important, just call Bert or Richard and tell them the modification you want and they will make it happen. One nice modification to ask for is a plate holder on top of the post where your feet go. When using the machine for situps it makes it convenient to get in position without hanging on to a plate with one hand. Other mods include hooks for bands.
SUMMARY:
- Both are well designed and well built machines.
- The people at elitefts and Sorinex use the stuff they sell. They are both run by friendly, honest people who will do their best to serve you.
- The most important thing is to use the machine…as in SHOW UP, ASK QUESTIONS, DON’T QUIT.
I used one from elitefts and it was fucking awesome. I’m planning on building a gym in my house in a couple years and it’s going to be one of the first things I buy. Kick ass piece of equipment. I used a different one by another company at my old gym and it sucked. Not sure what company built it though. If I were going to get something by anyone other than elitefts I would definately have to try it before I spend a dime on it.
[quote]Chief wrote:
I love my Power Lift. Expensive but worth it IMO. Alot of big colleges and pro football teams have these.[/quote]
I researched the Power-lift model, along with several other models with rotating thigh pads. Several people told me that they lose tension at the top of the movement due to the rotation of the pad. I don’t know, because I’ve never used one with rotating thigh pads, but this did raise a concern for me.
[quote]thebigdogbarks wrote:
I have used several GHR machines and decided to purchase the Sorinex model. I love this machine! If you look at the stuff on the elitefts site and the sorinex site, you will see many pieces of equipment that are identical.
As far as “putting boxes under the back end” to make it more difficult, I think a better idea is to use bands. Of course, the Sorinex (and maybe the elitefts) GHR allows u to raise or lower your feet without using boxes. According to Dave Tate, this is an important point. Dave says that the angle of incline of the front pad is important and that puttin the back of the ghr up on boxes changes this angle. As far as the angle of the front pad on the Sorinex machine, if you think the angle is important, just call Bert or Richard and tell them the modification you want and they will make it happen. One nice modification to ask for is a plate holder on top of the post where your feet go. When using the machine for situps it makes it convenient to get in position without hanging on to a plate with one hand. Other mods include hooks for bands.
SUMMARY:
- Both are well designed and well built machines.
- The people at elitefts and Sorinex use the stuff they sell. They are both run by friendly, honest people who will do their best to serve you.
- The most important thing is to use the machine…as in SHOW UP, ASK QUESTIONS, DON’T QUIT. [/quote]
I like the Sorinex model a lot. The primary reason I haven’t gone with it is everything I’ve read on the Elite website regarding the pad angle. It makes sense to me, but if I could get that on the Sorinex model, then why not go with it. It’s $ 400 cheaper than the elite collegiate model.
[quote]Chief wrote:
I love my Power Lift. Expensive but worth it IMO. Alot of big colleges and pro football teams have these.[/quote]
The Power Lift version really isn’t the same. I can do sets of 12 with a 25lb plate on the power lift version and I know I wouldn’t be able to do anywhere near that on a non-rotating model.
-MAtt
The best one that I’ve ever used was built by a Canadian company called “Atlantis.” I have no idea what it cost but it looks like you could land a chopper on it.
Got mine from BFS, it’s great. I also do reverse hypers on it w/ no prob.
[quote]Chief wrote:
I love my Power Lift. Expensive but worth it IMO. Alot of big colleges and pro football teams have these.[/quote]
What’s with the rotating pad? What does that do?
Bump
[quote]BADASS MENTALITY wrote:
Chief wrote:
I love my Power Lift. Expensive but worth it IMO. Alot of big colleges and pro football teams have these.
What’s with the rotating pad? What does that do?
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Sorry I missed your post yesterday!
This is what they say it does:
Specially constructed dual Thigh roller pads rotate with the body while performing the glute/hamstring exercise. These unique pads reduce the pressure against the quadriceps muscles to create a more comfortable and effective exercise for the Gluteus, Hamstrings and lower Back
I can’t say whether the rotating pad is better or not as I have never used one that doesnt rotate.
I bought a Power Lift rack and GHR at the same time. They are very high(professional) quality equipment. I highly recommend them if you have the $$.
When I first got this I thought it wasn’t as hard as people were saying it was. Then one day it just “clicked” technique wise. I wasn’t performing them correctly. When I finally started using the correct/strict form it became much harder.
Hopefully someday I’ll have access to a fixed pad style so I can compare.
[quote]BADASS MENTALITY wrote:
Chief wrote:
I love my Power Lift. Expensive but worth it IMO. Alot of big colleges and pro football teams have these.
What’s with the rotating pad? What does that do?
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I’ve talked to some people who have used both. One of the authors from this site as well as others. They all agree that the roller version is quite a bit easier. Which is not necessarily a terrible thing if you have female athletes or someone else who needs to “work up.”
But the roller version makes what is supposed to be the hardest part of the lift quite a bit easier. Once you get near that portion of the lift, the pad simply rolls you into position rather than you having to pull yourself the whole way.
-MAtt