“Tell me you love me edgy. I can make you happy.”
My persoanl opinion if you are seeking the answer to your marital problems in books you are looking in the wrong place. If you have a desire than your have a desire, dont use someone elses history to rationalize your feelings. You have to get to the root of what is causing those feelings and deal with it with your spouse.
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
My persoanl opinion if you are seeking the answer to your marital problems in books you are looking in the wrong place. If you have a desire than your have a desire, dont use someone elses history to rationalize your feelings. You have to get to the root of what is causing those feelings and deal with it with your spouse. [/quote]
thanks JC - i appreciate the input, but what i am looking for is either a historical prospetive on our mores of today as opposed to all ages prior, or a chance to think out of the box on this issue - not pop psychology on my relationship~
thanks tho~
[quote]csulli wrote:
“Tell me you love me edgy. I can make you happy.”[/quote]
cute and all, but not my type - more like this~
You like whores dont you Ed
[quote]Edgy wrote:
cute and all, but not my type - more like this~[/quote]
Oh shit you’ve fucked up now. She doesn’t deal well with rejection Edgy. Watch your back.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You like whores dont you Ed[/quote]
are we really going to have that discussion, Derek?
here? really?
[quote]pat wrote:
a bunch of hoo-haa
[/quote]
okay, Pat -
once you start using phrases like hoo-haa to state your point, you have lost credibility.
thanks for your input, but it is no longer relevant in this thread.
c-ya~
[quote]Edgy wrote:
after 23 years of marriage, and being engrossed in both sides of the family, with kids and future retirement looming, is now the time to split the sheets? or is it time to revisit an historically acceptable practice?
srsly, which has the acceptable outcome in your opinion?
compromising familial realationships, in addition to abandonment both financially and emotionally for all involved, or outsourcing?
[/quote]
False dichotomy.
Me and my wife were having some problems with communication for a good while and it was causing some serious strife. I had directly addressed with my wife if this would be an option. The thing is, there were a lot more problems than lack of sex. Another thing is that it is highly unlikely two people will solve the problems that they themselves are creating within their relationship. Also, having discussed a surrogate fuck toy with her once, I had already lined up 4 other women to potentially have some fun sexy time with. It was going to happen whether she agreed or not. I was hesitant to cheat and would rather have exhausted all other options before I did because I know how the cheating thing ends. I didn’t want to lose my family over it.
We sought marital counseling and it has worked very well. With a little bit of outside help we were able to clear up some misconceptions that had developed, open up the lines of communication again, and change the way it happens to keep them open and hopefully prevent future re-occurrences.
So, have you exhausted all other options, or are you willing to?
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
So, have you exhausted all other options, or are you willing to?
[/quote]
hey Sky - thanks for sharing, i appreciate the input -
again, this is not more than an experiment on the mores of today as opposed to the options of yesteryear - yes, being married for 23 years has subjected all parties to issues and items of disagreement, but nothing insurmountable, as you are aware.
the courage that it took for you to face this issue with your SO is inspiring, but i imagine that it took a great deal of strife in order to bring it to that point, to the breaking point, i would imagine~
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You like whores dont you Ed[/quote]
are we really going to have that discussion, Derek?
here? really?[/quote]
Uh sure
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
False dichotomy.
[/quote]
by the way, i had to look this up~
False Dichotomy
A dichotomy is a set of two mutually exclusive, jointly exhaustive alternatives. Dichotomies are typically expressed with the words “either” and “or”, like this: “Either the test is wrong or the program is wrong.”
A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither. Note that the example given above is not mutually exclusive, since the test and the program could both be wrong. It’s not jointly exhaustive either, since they could both be correct, but it could be a hardware error, a compiler error and so on.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You like whores dont you Ed[/quote]
are we really going to have that discussion, Derek?
here? really?[/quote]
Uh sure[/quote]
okie dokie
you jelly of Tony Banderas?
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
My persoanl opinion if you are seeking the answer to your marital problems in books you are looking in the wrong place. If you have a desire than your have a desire, dont use someone elses history to rationalize your feelings. You have to get to the root of what is causing those feelings and deal with it with your spouse. [/quote]
thanks JC - i appreciate the input, but what i am looking for is either a historical prospetive on our mores of today as opposed to all ages prior, or a chance to think out of the box on this issue - not pop psychology on my relationship~
thanks tho~[/quote]
Question - As it relates to history and marraige that you have stated in your previous posts.
How did those cultures view women?
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]JCMPG wrote:
My persoanl opinion if you are seeking the answer to your marital problems in books you are looking in the wrong place. If you have a desire than your have a desire, dont use someone elses history to rationalize your feelings. You have to get to the root of what is causing those feelings and deal with it with your spouse. [/quote]
thanks JC - i appreciate the input, but what i am looking for is either a historical prospetive on our mores of today as opposed to all ages prior, or a chance to think out of the box on this issue - not pop psychology on my relationship~
thanks tho~[/quote]
Question - As it relates to history and marraige that you have stated in your previous posts.
How did those cultures view women?[/quote]
quite well, interestingly enough - not so much in the early Roman days, but definitly later in the empires history. the Moslems treated thier women during this time period very well also, the burka is a new requirement for them. to answer your question, they did treat the women better than you would think - but, keep in mind that slavery was rampant throught history, and the slaves, whether male or female did not fare as well, as you can imagine~
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/3/8381e_ORIG-fhd995PDO_Salma_Hayek_014.jpg
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You like whores dont you Ed[/quote]
are we really going to have that discussion, Derek?
here? really?[/quote]
Uh sure[/quote]
okie dokie
you jelly of Tony Banderas?[/quote]
i apologize to the mods, that last picture was a bit racy, this should be more acceptable~
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You like whores dont you Ed[/quote]
are we really going to have that discussion, Derek?
here? really?[/quote]
Uh sure[/quote]
okie dokie
you jelly of Tony Banderas?[/quote]
i apologize to the mods, that last picture was a bit racy, this should be more acceptable~
[/quote]
no
Ed Norton
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You like whores dont you Ed[/quote]
are we really going to have that discussion, Derek?
here? really?[/quote]
Uh sure[/quote]
okie dokie
you jelly of Tony Banderas?[/quote]
i apologize to the mods, that last picture was a bit racy, this should be more acceptable~
[/quote]
no
Ed Norton[/quote]
yeah, i dont get that either
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
False dichotomy.
[/quote]
by the way, i had to look this up~
False Dichotomy
A dichotomy is a set of two mutually exclusive, jointly exhaustive alternatives. Dichotomies are typically expressed with the words “either” and “or”, like this: “Either the test is wrong or the program is wrong.”
A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither. Note that the example given above is not mutually exclusive, since the test and the program could both be wrong. It’s not jointly exhaustive either, since they could both be correct, but it could be a hardware error, a compiler error and so on. [/quote]
I was using it in a simplified sense, like when something is presented as “either/or” without consideration for other options.
On the other subject- It didn’t take much courage really. If there is one thing I’ve learned it is to fail quickly then ask for help. No real need to drag things out when it’s obviously not working.