What Happened to the T-Nation Community?

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

…organic peanut butter. Plus, that shit usually has all this oil sitting at the top, which closely mimics the consistency of mbdix’s asshole.[/quote]

You know how much I hate to hurt your feelings, Bert, but you and your tongue would have to be purty darn close to make this observation.

Anyway, carry on, gents.

(You KNEW you were on thin ice with the above, didn’t you?)[/quote]

It’s only gay if you go back for thirds.[/quote]

I thought it was only gay if you made eye contact (of course with mirrors involved)?[/quote]

I thought it was gay only if you enjoyed it.
[/quote]

It’s only gay if you feel guilty about enjoying it.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
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Go with a short Mexican. If you can find one with experience digging under borders, then you’re golden. Those fuckers dig like their life depends on it, which in a way it does.

[quote]PGA wrote:
… How the site’s activity slowed to basically a halt? …[/quote]

It all started the day they switched from tubs of protein powder to plastic sacks.

It was unnatural. It’s like going to the gym on Monday and not benching.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.

[quote]treco wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.[/quote]

If you do that, you can’t sit in your lawn chair with a daquiri in your hand watching Mexicans break their fucking backs digging a trench. You have no opportunity to affect a Mid-Atlantic accent and refer to Mexicans as peasants. Without Mexicans to constantly berate, your random assertion that the world needs ditch-diggers will have no ears on which your observant maxim can fall.

Besides, I haven’t seen a trencher that can fit into a 42" space, and if you think trenching through 18" of pea gravel in a tight spot for 160ft will go so quickly, you simply haven’t done this sort of work before. Besides, if he doesn’t have a truck and a trailer then the whole idea is pretty much moot.

Lots of trenchant posts in this thread.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.[/quote]

If you do that, you can’t sit in your lawn chair with a daquiri in your hand watching Mexicans break their fucking backs digging a trench. You have no opportunity to affect a Mid-Atlantic accent and refer to Mexicans as peasants. Without Mexicans to constantly berate, your random assertion that the world needs ditch-diggers will have no ears on which your observant maxim can fall.

Besides, I haven’t seen a trencher that can fit into a 42" space, and if you think trenching through 18" of pea gravel in a tight spot for 160ft will go so quickly, you simply haven’t done this sort of work before. Besides, if he doesn’t have a truck and a trailer then the whole idea is pretty much moot.[/quote]

Drinking daiquiris is gay. Fact.

To do the job as a trench digging Mexican master, you must have on boots, whiskey in hand, and yelling “date prisa” every 5 minutes. Anyone who suggest differently is a limp wristed, ass licking, commy. And they really don’t have a clue how this works and should not be listened to about the matter. Whiskey, boots, and butchered spanish is the tools for a trench digging Mexican master. If you want to be a gay daiquiri sipping lord of trench digging, you would have to hire a proper trench digging Mexican master to run the operation with the skills listed above. He will cost you much more than $16 an hour though. You would be looking at a minimum of $75 an hour for a decent one.

  • Sticks head out of a hole *

  • looks around *

Hey…did someone mention DebraD’s amazing backside?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]boyscout wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I think it MIGHT be because some of the frequent posters were on here at a point in their life in which they had a lot of spare time considering their ages back then, late teens and early 20’s. I have a few on my list on FB and it seems they are much busier now (graduated school, found a woman, married, had kids, jobs, stuff like that).[/quote]

Not sure about the busy factor – I’m busier than I was when I posted here often: wife, 3 month old, job, etc – that’s not what keeps me away.

I was always on T-Nation to learn about training. But I’ve been at this for 10 years. I know what works for me and I don’t really feel a desire to do much more that skim a few articles here now and again. Especially true with the newer content that’s more buzzfeed-esque (I miss the Atomic Dog column).

If I visit T-Nation, it’s mostly just to get to the store and get out. Which, I suppose, was the goal of the forum in the first place.[/quote]

This.

How many articles about squat depth or deadlift technique can one read before it becomes useless, redundant information?

I feel like this site, for most visitors, serves a few basic purposes: novice/beginner lifter comes on, learns a few things, obsesses over all the different and competing viewpoints about an endless amount of approaches to training, they try practically all of them, they then suffer from info/program overload, switch to something simple like 5-3-1, find themselves reading less and less articles because they are irrelevant to them, find themselves more and more often in the forums, and then find themselves more and more often in the non-training forums, and then find themselves growing bored with the puerile/sycophantic tone of 99% of the threads in GAL, come over to PWI and realize they probably aren’t equipped to participate in 99% of those threads, and then leave.

This wouldn’t be a problem if more and more newbs came on here to replace the ones that have outgrown the site.

But look around. Newbs are typically people in their late teens/early twenties. But that particular demographic, in this country anyways, is filled with a bunch of FUCKING SWISHES looking for safe spaces for themselves and their motherfucking tinkerbell/ass-pirate buddies. A site like this would be an absolutely TRAUMATIC experience for most in that demographic.

'Tis a shame.[/quote]
lol oh where have you been hiding man? [/quote]

Jakku.

[quote]Edgy wrote:

  • Sticks head out of a hole *

  • looks around *

Hey…did someone mention DebraD’s amazing backside?[/quote]

Oh sure…

Now I’m going to be thinking about that for the next couple days…

nards said

Fuck we haven’t even had a pants not fitting question in a year or more.

you mean like this
changed my squat routine up a little bit
started eating everything in sight
now my pants are getting tight
went to pick up something at work and split the ass out my pants
should i
a] lose weight
b] get bigger pants
lol,haha,f–king life

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.[/quote]

If you do that, you can’t sit in your lawn chair with a daquiri in your hand watching Mexicans break their fucking backs digging a trench. You have no opportunity to affect a Mid-Atlantic accent and refer to Mexicans as peasants. Without Mexicans to constantly berate, your random assertion that the world needs ditch-diggers will have no ears on which your observant maxim can fall.

Besides, I haven’t seen a trencher that can fit into a 42" space, and if you think trenching through 18" of pea gravel in a tight spot for 160ft will go so quickly, you simply haven’t done this sort of work before. Besides, if he doesn’t have a truck and a trailer then the whole idea is pretty much moot.[/quote]

Drinking daiquiris is gay. Fact.

To do the job as a trench digging Mexican master, you must have on boots, whiskey in hand, and yelling “date prisa” every 5 minutes. Anyone who suggest differently is a limp wristed, ass licking, commy. And they really don’t have a clue how this works and should not be listened to about the matter. Whiskey, boots, and butchered spanish is the tools for a trench digging Mexican master. If you want to be a gay daiquiri sipping lord of trench digging, you would have to hire a proper trench digging Mexican master to run the operation with the skills listed above. He will cost you much more than $16 an hour though. You would be looking at a minimum of $75 an hour for a decent one. [/quote]

You’re obviously not aristocratic enough to appreciate the delicious irony in drinking a daquiri while wearing a seersucker suit and a Panama hat in 25-degree weather in the middle of Chicago. Fucking peasants.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.[/quote]

If you do that, you can’t sit in your lawn chair with a daquiri in your hand watching Mexicans break their fucking backs digging a trench. You have no opportunity to affect a Mid-Atlantic accent and refer to Mexicans as peasants. Without Mexicans to constantly berate, your random assertion that the world needs ditch-diggers will have no ears on which your observant maxim can fall.

Besides, I haven’t seen a trencher that can fit into a 42" space, and if you think trenching through 18" of pea gravel in a tight spot for 160ft will go so quickly, you simply haven’t done this sort of work before. Besides, if he doesn’t have a truck and a trailer then the whole idea is pretty much moot.[/quote]

Drinking daiquiris is gay. Fact.

To do the job as a trench digging Mexican master, you must have on boots, whiskey in hand, and yelling “date prisa” every 5 minutes. Anyone who suggest differently is a limp wristed, ass licking, commy. And they really don’t have a clue how this works and should not be listened to about the matter. Whiskey, boots, and butchered spanish is the tools for a trench digging Mexican master. If you want to be a gay daiquiri sipping lord of trench digging, you would have to hire a proper trench digging Mexican master to run the operation with the skills listed above. He will cost you much more than $16 an hour though. You would be looking at a minimum of $75 an hour for a decent one. [/quote]

You’re obviously not aristocratic enough to appreciate the delicious irony in drinking a daquiri while wearing a seersucker suit and a Panama hat in 25-degree weather in the middle of Chicago. Fucking peasants.[/quote]

You might be right? I do find it odd that with your expert knowledge of aristocracy you left out the long stem cigarette holder in your description.

I went from a regular poster to mainly a lurker these days. I’ll echo what a few people have said:

  • Just older now. More going on in life and less time to fart around online. I also Don’t really engage in training talk much online because I know what works for me and what I like to do. The articles hold much less import in my mind because of this well

  • As a natty lifter with mediocre genetics and thus results, I just dont feel all that confident giving advice any more. Every now and then if a noob asks a question I feel like I have some insight on and no one else has answered I’ll jump in but other than that I stay quiet.

  • Forum technical issues. PM’s have been broken for years which really sucks, you cant jump to last post in a thread any more, forum signs you out after only a few minutes of inactivity. Makes the whole user experience suffer at almost every turn really.

  • Article Comments thread / livespill is gone: This really took away from the content in my opinion, as many times the Q&A in the comments was better than the article.

Overall I still like the site and visit most days of the week, and still buy a few staple supps from Biotest, but yeah it just isn’t the same for me as when I was 21 and didn’t know what I know now.

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.[/quote]

If you do that, you can’t sit in your lawn chair with a daquiri in your hand watching Mexicans break their fucking backs digging a trench. You have no opportunity to affect a Mid-Atlantic accent and refer to Mexicans as peasants. Without Mexicans to constantly berate, your random assertion that the world needs ditch-diggers will have no ears on which your observant maxim can fall.

Besides, I haven’t seen a trencher that can fit into a 42" space, and if you think trenching through 18" of pea gravel in a tight spot for 160ft will go so quickly, you simply haven’t done this sort of work before. Besides, if he doesn’t have a truck and a trailer then the whole idea is pretty much moot.[/quote]

Drinking daiquiris is gay. Fact.

To do the job as a trench digging Mexican master, you must have on boots, whiskey in hand, and yelling “date prisa” every 5 minutes. Anyone who suggest differently is a limp wristed, ass licking, commy. And they really don’t have a clue how this works and should not be listened to about the matter. Whiskey, boots, and butchered spanish is the tools for a trench digging Mexican master. If you want to be a gay daiquiri sipping lord of trench digging, you would have to hire a proper trench digging Mexican master to run the operation with the skills listed above. He will cost you much more than $16 an hour though. You would be looking at a minimum of $75 an hour for a decent one. [/quote]

You’re obviously not aristocratic enough to appreciate the delicious irony in drinking a daquiri while wearing a seersucker suit and a Panama hat in 25-degree weather in the middle of Chicago. Fucking peasants.[/quote]

You might be right? I do find it odd that with your expert knowledge of aristocracy you left out the long stem cigarette holder in your description.

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If by long stem cigarette holder you meant “Mexican wearing satin gloves who is barred from all eye contact with me” that is so obvious it would be redundant for me to even mention it.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does anyone have any idea what the going hourly rate is to hire a guy who hangs out in front of Home Depot? I’ve got some digging I need done and am wondering if $12-$15/hour would get any takers.

[/quote]

In what state are you? Geographically speaking, that is.

In California, especially in the Bay Area, $15/hr is more like the minimum. I would set a firm price of $16/hr and throw in a fat burrito at lunch.[/quote]

I’m in Chicago.

I need to install a perimeter drain tile system in the crawlspace of my mom’s house. I need a trench dug in pea gravel 160’ long, 12" wide, and 18" deep. The problem is there’s only about 3.5’ of headroom. I’m more than willing to pay someone to do the work so I don’t have to.

I wonder if Clunk is available…
[/quote]

Rent a trenching machine and most of your time will be hauling the machine back and forth to the rental store. Hire a day worker to do the dirt/gravel spreading/removal.[/quote]

If you do that, you can’t sit in your lawn chair with a daquiri in your hand watching Mexicans break their fucking backs digging a trench. You have no opportunity to affect a Mid-Atlantic accent and refer to Mexicans as peasants. Without Mexicans to constantly berate, your random assertion that the world needs ditch-diggers will have no ears on which your observant maxim can fall.

Besides, I haven’t seen a trencher that can fit into a 42" space, and if you think trenching through 18" of pea gravel in a tight spot for 160ft will go so quickly, you simply haven’t done this sort of work before. Besides, if he doesn’t have a truck and a trailer then the whole idea is pretty much moot.[/quote]

Drinking daiquiris is gay. Fact.

To do the job as a trench digging Mexican master, you must have on boots, whiskey in hand, and yelling “date prisa” every 5 minutes. Anyone who suggest differently is a limp wristed, ass licking, commy. And they really don’t have a clue how this works and should not be listened to about the matter. Whiskey, boots, and butchered spanish is the tools for a trench digging Mexican master. If you want to be a gay daiquiri sipping lord of trench digging, you would have to hire a proper trench digging Mexican master to run the operation with the skills listed above. He will cost you much more than $16 an hour though. You would be looking at a minimum of $75 an hour for a decent one. [/quote]

You’re obviously not aristocratic enough to appreciate the delicious irony in drinking a daquiri while wearing a seersucker suit and a Panama hat in 25-degree weather in the middle of Chicago. Fucking peasants.[/quote]

You might be right? I do find it odd that with your expert knowledge of aristocracy you left out the long stem cigarette holder in your description.

[/quote]

If by long stem cigarette holder you meant “Mexican wearing satin gloves who is barred from all eye contact with me” that is so obvious it would be redundant for me to even mention it.[/quote]

hahaha “barred from all eye contact with me” that’s fucking funny

The Stanford Marching Band is the best fucking marching band in the world, hands down.

I can’t believe ESPN actually cut away from their halftime performance this year. It’s not like they were lampooning the OJ murder trial by driving around in a white Bronco with bloody handprints all over it. It’s not like they were creating vulgar anagrams, or urinating on the field, or forming phallic symbols.

You guys should read their wikipedia page. They’ve got to be the only marching band that’s barred from the state of Oregon, Disneyland, and Notre Dame.