What everyone here thinks about marriage?

What credentials did Socrates have to make you listen to his philosophy? I don’t understand this statement. No one got credentials, do I need to be a king to say my opinion?

We (humans) found ourselves ways to replace certain feelings with other unnatural actions. For example, humans by nature want to conquer land. Today, instead of conquering land, we do it in other ways: we work for money, and that way we buy houses, or being a manager, etc.

I don’t want this to become personal and tell you what you feel, so I’m trying to be objective here.

Can’t contradict that, I can’t say how to feel. I think there is always something deeper for love, but that’s an unexperienced opinion.

As allegedly rational beings, one of our shortcomings is our inability to understand the irrational/absurd. This is where a lot of existentialism comes from. It’s also a delightful source of comedy.

Camus had some great talking points regarding this. Kierkegaard’s “leap into faith” can also apply there too, even without the religious leanings.

What credentials did Socrates have to make you listen to his philosophy?

He explicitly said that he knew nothing. He was one of the few people willing to say that, which is why people listened to him. And what he did was question: not answer.

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He had many students. If he knew nothing really, he would not share his opinions. Anyway, Plato wasn’t like that for sure.

BTW, how would you explain someone loving someone, then break up, then loving someone else and not loving the previous person anymore?

Anyway, Plato wasn’t like that for sure.

So why not talk about him instead?

Which of Socrates works would you say is your favorite?

BTW, how would you explain someone loving someone, then break up, then loving someone else and not loving the previous person anymore?

My explanation would be that the feeling being felt between the two in the first instance was not love.

EDIT: I suppose another alternative could be that the person that was fallen in love with is no longer the person present. In which case, feelings were felt under false pretenses.

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Love is a choice - not a feeling.

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Consider how men and women consider their choice for a love relationship.

A man chooses a woman that he wants for a love relationship, with the thought she will never change.

A woman chooses a man that she feels is nearly perfect as she can get for a love relationship, with plans to improve him.

It isn’t difficult to see how love fads over time.

Lust and infatuation are frequently mistaken for love. Love is something that develops over time. You are also capable of loving more than one person. It’s not like a soulmate thing where there is only the one person who can ever be for you. Love can fade and it can be strengthened.

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Do not forget Proverbs 21:19.

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Very true. Words to live by.

For both men and women I feel. :rofl:

Makes me think of this news article:

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That is fabulous!!! :joy::joy::joy:

Ever hate that you love someone? I’ve been there. Knowing that you can’t be with someone you love and by all measures it would be better to move on, but you can’t. It’s love.

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In a world where men are afraid to admit that they don’t know something, that is an admirable admission.

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It also upset “those in the know” so much that they killed him for it.

Which he shoulda known would happen…if only he knew something.

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Hah! Unfortunately bait was not taken.

Other reason was that he happened to be part of a political movement that lost the power struggle in Athens.

There’s a hint of truth here too.

And love is a difficult thing to define (which has been tried several times already). Not all love is the same. Some may say you love each individual differently.

And yes. One can not always choose who to love.

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This is a limitation in the English language that doesn’t exist in other languages. We can’t simply say love, we have to provide detail around which kind of love - romantic, brotherly, deep care, familial, etc.

Often times, with exes, the love that still exists is deep care. As you spent a good portion of your life with them. Despite how hard some of those years may have been, there is still a love for them. Falling out of love, usually refers to romantic love.

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This is a limitation in the English language that doesn’t exist in other languages.

The Greeks struggled similarly. They had Eros and Agape.

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Absolutely not the only reason men cheat.

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