What Constitutes Strong?

Stole this from PC’s blog (LIFT-RUN-BANG: 5 rep rating for strength):

5 rep star rating for strength

Squatting x 5 (raw, belt only):
275 - 315: 1 star
365 - 385: 2 stars
405 - 455: 3 stars
495 - 545: 4 stars
585 +: 5 stars

Benching x 5 (raw):
205 - 225: 1 star
245 - 275: 2 stars
305 - 325: 3 stars
365 - 385: 4 stars
405 +: 5 stars

Dipping x 5 (bodyweight NOT included):
40 - 50: 1 star
60 - 80: 2 stars
100 - 135: 3 stars
150 - 180: 4 stars
200+: 5 stars

Deadlift X 5 (straps are ok, no suit, belt is ok):
275 - 315: 1 star
365 - 405: 2 stars
455 - 495: 3 stars
545 - 585: 4 stars
600+: 5 stars

SLDL x 5 (straps are ok, no belt):
245 - 275: 1 star
290 - 315: 2 stars
365 - 385: 3 stars
405 - 455: 4 stars
495+: 5 stars

Military/PBN x 5(seated or standing, no push presses):
165 - 185: 1 star
205 - 215: 2 stars
225 - 245: 3 stars
255 - 275: 4 stars
285+: 5 stars

Barbell Curls x 5 (strict, no cheating on any rep)
95 - 115: 1 star
135 - 155: 2 stars
165 - 175: 3 stars
185 - 195: 4 stars
205+: 5 stars

Aright, here are my entries:

Pull-ups, 100x6 (I’d accept 5 due to the leg kick, but I’m recording it as a PR)

Dips… I did 135x5 but forgot to turn on the camera :(. Here’s what I did do: 160x1.

Good job. Nice chin power.

[quote]grettiron wrote:
Aright, here are my entries:

Pull-ups, 100x6 (I’d accept 5 due to the leg kick, but I’m recording it as a PR)
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Impressive. I’d give you #6.

tonight was bench night… added another rep to my 315 bench for reps and added another 45lbs to my dips.

started the night with a big PR on reverse band bench against medium bands. i missed 585 miserably the first time i attempted the medium bands. hit it pretty solid to night for a 10lb PR

reverse band bench press- medium bands- 585x1 +10lb PR - paused w/ press command

bench press for reps - 315 x 18 +1 rep from last week

dips - BW +180lbs x 8 + 45lbs from last week

move’n forward.

tonight was bench night… added another rep to my 315 bench for reps and added another 45lbs to my dips.

started the night with a big PR on reverse band bench against medium bands. i missed 585 miserably the first time i attempted the medium bands. hit it pretty solid to night for a 10lb PR

reverse band bench press- medium bands- 585x1 +10lb PR - paused w/ press command

bench press for reps - 315 x 18 +1 rep from last week

dips - BW +180lbs x 8 + 45lbs from last week

move’n forward.

MM, since you are already an elite level raw lifter, why are you taking this so seriously?

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
MM, since you are already an elite level raw lifter, why are you taking this so seriously? [/quote]

i’m not taking it serious. I’m just having fun with it. I appreciate you calling me an elite level raw lifter. I definitely don’t consider myself elite level. I strive to be but definitely aren’t there yet… may never reach it but i’m having fun trying.

when i read about this on Wendler’s log it just looked like a good challenge. I’m not changing my training at all. I’m doing all of these after I do my normal training. If i were serious about it, I would do them first.

Also, I figure if a short, fat middle aged guy with little to no real talent for the sport can reach or get close to all or some of these, maybe others will realize that the sky’s the limit on setting goals. I don’t feel like i was genetically given many gifts for this sport but what i do have is the drive and i don’t place limits on myself. the day i realized that the weight on the bar was just a number was the day i started to make progress. I hear people all the time say “i will never be able to lift that much”. well…they are right. they never will because they don’t believe they will.

for me it’s all about the journey, not the destination.

i truely believe you could hit these goals Steele. You have a good work ethic as well.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
MM, since you are already an elite level raw lifter, why are you taking this so seriously? [/quote]

i’m not taking it serious. I’m just having fun with it. I appreciate you calling me an elite level raw lifter. I definitely don’t consider myself elite level. I strive to be but definitely aren’t there yet… may never reach it but i’m having fun trying.

when i read about this on Wendler’s log it just looked like a good challenge. I’m not changing my training at all. I’m doing all of these after I do my normal training. If i were serious about it, I would do them first.

Also, I figure if a short, fat middle aged guy with little to no real talent for the sport can reach or get close to all or some of these, maybe others will realize that the sky’s the limit on setting goals. I don’t feel like i was genetically given many gifts for this sport but what i do have is the drive and i don’t place limits on myself. the day i realized that the weight on the bar was just a number was the day i started to make progress. I hear people all the time say “i will never be able to lift that much”. well…they are right. they never will because they don’t believe they will.

for me it’s all about the journey, not the destination.

i truely believe you could hit these goals Steele. You have a good work ethic as well.
[/quote]

If I can stay healthy I might have a shot in 7-8 years or so. But the way I’ve been going that seems to be asking for a lot.

Well, if you won’t except “elite” then I guess “really fucking strong” will have to work. You’re pretty close on most of these though right?

I also agree with you about this being a journey and not a destination. This is just a way of life for me, and I wouldn’t give it up for anything. I’m sure you’re the same way.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
MM, since you are already an elite level raw lifter, why are you taking this so seriously? [/quote]

i’m not taking it serious. I’m just having fun with it. I appreciate you calling me an elite level raw lifter. I definitely don’t consider myself elite level. I strive to be but definitely aren’t there yet… may never reach it but i’m having fun trying.

when i read about this on Wendler’s log it just looked like a good challenge. I’m not changing my training at all. I’m doing all of these after I do my normal training. If i were serious about it, I would do them first.

Also, I figure if a short, fat middle aged guy with little to no real talent for the sport can reach or get close to all or some of these, maybe others will realize that the sky’s the limit on setting goals. I don’t feel like i was genetically given many gifts for this sport but what i do have is the drive and i don’t place limits on myself. the day i realized that the weight on the bar was just a number was the day i started to make progress. I hear people all the time say “i will never be able to lift that much”. well…they are right. they never will because they don’t believe they will.

for me it’s all about the journey, not the destination.

i truely believe you could hit these goals Steele. You have a good work ethic as well.
[/quote]

If I can stay healthy I might have a shot in 7-8 years or so. But the way I’ve been going that seems to be asking for a lot.

Well, if you won’t except “elite” then I guess “really fucking strong” will have to work. You’re pretty close on most of these though right?

I also agree with you about this being a journey and not a destination. This is just a way of life for me, and I wouldn’t give it up for anything. I’m sure you’re the same way.[/quote]

who cares how long it will take? i kinda like have long term goals. if you are anything like me, once i reach the goals it will be time to quickly find new ones.

i hear yeah on the staying healthy thing. I spent the first few years of powerlifting with chronic injuries. It hasn’t been until recently that i’ve figured a few things out. I’ve had to learn the hard way that accessory work is the cornerstone to staying healthy. i used to just do presses to the front because that is what is needed to bench big… wrong. now i put a ton of emphasis on the rear and medial heads of the shoulder. also, i never did any lower back or ab work. who needs that?? wrong…nothing can be truely strong without a strong core. these are but a few of the things i had to learn the hard way.

as it stands right now after doing my regular training session-

bench 315x18

dips BW+ 180 x 6

pullups BW +100 x 1- i have a pulled trap that is holding me back at the moment.

curls 135x8

standing military- 250x1

deads 405 against bands (approx.500 at top) x 10

squats… doing those tomorrow night.

none of the above are done in a rested state and none are to failure…yet. my plan is to gradually work up to the numbers. I’m actually enjoying the process and in no hurry. it’s added something to look forward to at the end of my training.

it is definitely a lifestyle. i was reading in the thread about “when to retire?”. I’m sure at some point i’ll have people telling me to retire but i never will. as long as i can grip a bar, i’ll be lift’n. also, my view on competing has really changed since i started. it used to be about comparing myself to other lifters. now i lift and compete purely for myself. when i compete now i always go “open” class and i don’t even weigh myself before i go. i show up go open and weigh what i weigh. i don’t care about what others are lifting. my goals are to just do a little better than i did last time. I can see it now… I’ll be that 60 year old guy competing in the open class and everyone wondering why i don’t go and compete with the old guys:)

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

who cares how long it will take? i kinda like have long term goals. if you are anything like me, once i reach the goals it will be time to quickly find new ones.

i hear yeah on the staying healthy thing. I spent the first few years of powerlifting with chronic injuries. It hasn’t been until recently that i’ve figured a few things out. I’ve had to learn the hard way that accessory work is the cornerstone to staying healthy. i used to just do presses to the front because that is what is needed to bench big… wrong. now i put a ton of emphasis on the rear and medial heads of the shoulder. also, i never did any lower back or ab work. who needs that?? wrong…nothing can be truely strong without a strong core. these are but a few of the things i had to learn the hard way.
[/quote]

I don’t care how long it takes, I just want to be healthy so I can work on getting there. My health problems aren’t related to training in any way though, they’re from a skiing accident.

[quote]
as it stands right now after doing my regular training session-

bench 315x18

dips BW+ 180 x 6

pullups BW +100 x 1- i have a pulled trap that is holding me back at the moment.

curls 135x8

standing military- 250x1

deads 405 against bands (approx.500 at top) x 10

squats… doing those tomorrow night.

none of the above are done in a rested state and none are to failure…yet. my plan is to gradually work up to the numbers. I’m actually enjoying the process and in no hurry. it’s added something to look forward to at the end of my training.[/quote]

OK, you are very close on some but others will take some work. Probably just need to get used to the higher rep ranges.

[quote]
it is definitely a lifestyle. i was reading in the thread about “when to retire?”. I’m sure at some point i’ll have people telling me to retire but i never will. as long as i can grip a bar, i’ll be lift’n.[/quote]

I hear you. I can’t understand why age would make you want to completely change the way you live. There’s almost always a way to get the work done if you really want to.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[/quote]

I don’t care how long it takes, I just want to be healthy so I can work on getting there. My health problems aren’t related to training in any way though, they’re from a skiing accident.

[quote]

there you go…powerlifters aren’t supposed to ski. we are there to pull people back up the mountain:)

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
powerlifters aren’t supposed to ski. we are there to pull people back up the mountain:)[/quote]

LOL, where were you two years ago to tell me that? I could’ve used that little chestnut before the infamous “OK guys, one more run!”

I seem to have to learn everything the hard way.

MM, from the video, it looks like you could have easily gotten 20. But I’m not the one under the bar lol. Anyways, just gotta say, you are fuckin’ strong. Great lifts. New to powerlifting myself.

[quote]flipHKD_6 wrote:
MM, from the video, it looks like you could have easily gotten 20. But I’m not the one under the bar lol. Anyways, just gotta say, you are fuckin’ strong. Great lifts. New to powerlifting myself.[/quote]

thanks. i’m trying to keep a rep or two in the tank for each of these.

If i saw someone lifting that much in jeans at a gym ide think i was dreaming

[quote]WhiteTiger711 wrote:
If i saw someone lifting that much in jeans at a gym ide think i was dreaming[/quote]

i usually ride my Harley to the gym on bench day. yes, i’m too lazy to change.

skwattt night- i hit reverse band squats with the medium bands for my ME. i worked up to 675.

i then set my baseline for the 500 x 20 for squats. i decided to use 405 against bands just like for deads. damn…this lift is going to be all about endurance and conditioning. i definitely need to improve mine. i have plenty of strength but the lactic acid set in and i got pretty winded. what do i expect… i haven’t squatted more than 5 reps in forever. the bands make it well above 500 at the top. you really need to stay tight with the bands or they will throw you off balance.

squat against bands
405x8- plenty of strength… not much endurance.

i love to skwatt…

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
skwattt night- i hit reverse band squats with the medium bands for my ME. i worked up to 675.

i then set my baseline for the 500 x 20 for squats. i decided to use 405 against bands just like for deads. damn…this lift is going to be all about endurance and conditioning. i definitely need to improve mine. i have plenty of strength but the lactic acid set in and i got pretty winded. what do i expect… i haven’t squatted more than 5 reps in forever. the bands make it well above 500 at the top. you really need to stay tight with the bands or they will throw you off balance.

squat against bands
405x8- plenty of strength… not much endurance.

i love to skwatt…[/quote]

“It’s only 405, not even a world record.” LOL

Why are you using the bands for this instead of just straight weight?

Set looked really smooth and (almost) easy. I bet you’d be good for 15 if you didn’t take so much time between reps and really put the hammer down.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
the bands make it well above 500 at the top.
[/quote]

Even more if you include the 20 pounds of dirt and grime on that hat.