I need to start dipping into the beginners forum more often 
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You wereā¦ ten pounds heavierā¦ probably not all LBM either, so say 5lbs heavierā¦
at this point youāre posts indicate a facet of instability, you DONāT need steroids, you need a solid training regime
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its been 3 daysā¦ obviously hes not getting the desired information he wants.
My gut has been telling me he doesnāt want to hear about any possible issue regarding diet or lifting.
WHAT THE FUCK EVERā¦ honestly itās hard not to think that your just making up a sob story so that someone will give you the green light to run gearā¦
Pretty much seems like you have side step any question regarding diet or what your program consisted of. As if in doing so would poke holes in the narrative your trying to establish.
You mentioned in your other thread your diet wasnāt good due to finance reasons.
But as someone pointed out you some how you can afford to buy gear if you needed .
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I have through periods on and off āsufferedā from something I would call similar to whatever this CFS shit is, and my solution has always been to go to the gym and fucking melt all the shit anyway. It remains undiagnosed, because it is probably just a low level form of stress. Ironically, training and over-training can contribute to it, because it is largely neurological. Be aware of it, accept it, do what you can to combat it, and overcome it. Sheesh, OP.
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Lol I have a version of CFS itās called working a full time job nearing 50 with adult issues. Oddly it hasnāt been diagnosed either if you know what Iām saying. I guess itās hard for me to be sympathetic towards the young man.
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Yuuuuuuup!
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Trust me CFS is no joke itās real and I have it likely do to overtraining syndrome I donāt wish CFS upon my worst enemie it awful. If you had the same tyou wouldnāt be able to gain alot of muscle mass like I cant .
I am also an undiagnosed grown up.
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Why do people give themselves bad conditions if they are going to self-diagnose?
I have an undiagnosed MSTR gene deficiency.
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Thank you for confirming what I suspected.
I have been diagnosed with a big stick up my ass at my last exam. Would explain allot.
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Alrightā¦ so what exactly makes you think you need gear?
Youāre logic is flawed, if you think youāve got CFS, go to a specialistā¦ if you think youāve got a hormonal deficiency, get some labs pulled
Playing a guessing game of āoh I have this and that, anabolic steroids are certainly the answerā is bullshitā¦ furthermore, as someone who actually has fibromyalgia (diagnosed) and possibly CFS (doctor specified I MIGHT have this, however I was also hypogonadal at the timeā¦ which would explain quite a bit)
The fatigue/lack of energy associated with fibromyalgia does improve with androgen therapy (particuarly pertaining to mildly supraphysiologic dosesā¦ like say 1.5-2x what a man would regularly produce) but the improvement IS MARGINAL, itās no ānight and day cureā, and if youāre a lazy guy who canāt bring himself to train without steroids, Iām sorryā¦ but CFS or not anabolics probably wonāt suddenly make you able to train
Stop looking for excuses to run gear, if youāre aware of the risks associated with youāre situation (running gear) which I can tell you that you most certainly ARENāTā¦ then you could theoretically run gear (even though itās a stupid decision to make in my opinion)
However
- you donāt train properly
- you probably donāt know how to diet
- you make excuses such as āI have CFS even though Iāve never been diagnosedā
- you think gear is the only answer
This is some incredibly retarded ideology to harbour, stop putting all youāre money into the idea of gearā¦ if you think somethingās wrong, see a fucking doctor, a pain specialist/specialist regarding CFSā¦ have you ever had testing to rule out autoimmune conditionsā¦ what about thyroid, adrenals etcā¦ could be CFSā¦ could also be hormonally/neurologically mediatedā¦ think rationally before making stupid decisions my man
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Fyi hes already stated already heās seen a specialist and had test run. No diagnoses was made for it.
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So no diagnosisās were made after seeing a specialist?
If he really thinks somethingās wrong he should get a second opinionā¦ otherwise itās probably nothing
When I had hypogonadism it was severe enough I was actually diagnosed by my GP before seeing a specialist (to get injectable test here itās incredibly difficult, probably the hardest developed country in the worldā¦ hence people tend to turn to the black market for TRT at astounding rates if they canāt afford private specialists/healthcare)
I never went private for my treatment and was thus stuck on a terrible regime of like 250mg e3w for 3-5 months or so
Eventually I was given a dose high enough to get me to likeā¦ 600ng/dl, even then the doc is very cautious regarding my hematocrit etcā¦ which doesnāt raise, as a matter of fact Iām anaemic (iron deficiency anaemia stemming from haemorrhoids which donāt close up because I like deadliftingā¦) valslva manouver keeps them comingā¦ had rubber band ligation, now I have to have a more invasive procedure but I keep pushing it back because I donāt want to go underā¦ I get cripplingly anxious at hospitals before getting put underā¦ I keep thinking āwhat if I never wake upā
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Iām just jumping into this thread.
To be clear, have you been diagnosed with this, or are you just saying it?
EDIT: Because if you donāt have a diagnosis, you are absolutely full of shit, and you are absolutely unqualified to make such a diagnosis. Spare us the fucking sob stories, do you have any idea how many people come onto this forum with essentially the same stories? At least youāre not looking into clavicle lengthening surgery. If you go THAT route, Iāve been told Iām the guy to talk to.
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Did the guy end up actually getting that retarded surgery done?
If I recall correctly he had klinefelters syndromeā¦ meaning he needed trt + an optimal training regime, not surgery
Testicular function is abysmal in those with klinefelters syndrome, they all have primary hypogonadism
I honestly donāt remember if that was the same guy. And as far as Iām aware, he did not get the surgery.
This is beautiful.
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Prostate? Been there. Maybe visit a smaller doctor?
Or at least a less enthusiastic one
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You canāt study for a prostate exam, but boy can you cram.
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