Westside/PLing Training Thread

[quote]Power GnP wrote:
Sheiko MSIC Week 2 Day 3 Contest

2008.03.07
Weight: N/A

Bench Press
165x5
175x3
210x3
245x3x2 sets (shirted 2bd)
275x2x3 sets (2bd)
290x2 (2bd)
300x2 (2bd)
310x2 (2bd)

Squats
165x5
265x3
300x3
365x3
425x3x2 sets (straps down, wraps)
500x3x3 sets (straps up, wraps)

GM�??s
155x4x5 sets

Felt terrible today…woke up late and only got two meals in pre-workout, definitly low performance due to reduced energy. Tomorow should be better. In other news my single ply size 42 centurion is so loose…the straps almost float off when I’m in the hole and I still wouldn’t fill it if I added 30lbs to my gut, going to try to get a 40 in time for Nationals.
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Next time, buddy.

Or you could just go for a super-bloat. :slight_smile:

DE Upper

Minis
45x3x??
95x5
135x8x3
185x1
205x1
215x1 10 PR - Felt easy and supper fast.

I am really feeling good about bench right now.

OH Press
95x5
115x5
135x3
150x3
135x2x5

Seated Row
195x3x8
200x8
205x8

Some curls.

DONE!!

thursday- just did some light band work elbows killn me

sat- ME lower
dynamic warm up
reverse hypers 180 2 sets 10
lat tower abs 100 2 sets 10

chain suspended good mornings with the camber bar these turned into anderson squats around 500 lbs

17010
260
3
3503
440
3
4903
530
3 these were anderson squats
5803
620
3
710*3

reverse hypers 18010 27010 360*10
decline sit ups with 40 lb. dumbbell 2 sets 10

this tendentious is killing my elbows if I cannot get it under control I am not sure about this meet next month. I am considering ART the problem is the closest person I can find is bout 2 hours away. Does any one have any experience with Active Release?

[quote]Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- SKILL EVALUATION- Friday- 3/7/08

Bodyweight- 203lb

1)Squat
(100%+)385x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)390x1 (15lb PR)

2)Bench Press (paused)
(100%+)285x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)290x1 (15lb PR)

3)Deadlift
(100%+)520x1 (7.5lb PR)
(100%+)530x1 (17.5lb PR)
(100%+)535x1 (22.5lb PR)

Total: 1,215lb (55lb PR)
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Great job Matt! I just watched the videos and you’ve made a lot of progress in such a short time! Keep it up and I look forward to you setting some BIG meet PRs in your next meet!


Traveled down to Cinci to train at Powerstation gym with Laura Phelps…
Safety Bar box Squat + 120lbs chain
495x1, 585x1, 615x1, 630xbarely miss
not bad considering I got about 16 hours of sleep in the last 4 nights and felt terrible from traveling…I think me being able to grind through a maximal effort day and still perform decent is attributed to my work capacity, so im glad I am seeing more benefits from that.

Straight leg situps on hyper bench with 45lb barbell behind back 5x5
Reverse hyper (traditional old design) 5x10 heavy

lots of stretching

Here is a picture of the reverse hyper we have at our garage that I normally use. 125 pounds on this design is a very impressive amount of weight to use! There are only 4 or 5 of these that Louie made like this, it works so much better than your standard reverse hyper.

3/9/08:

Bench:
45x12x2
95x6
135x5
(75%)180x6x4

OVH Press:
45x6
105x5x4

PRow:
135x8x3

Reverse DB Press:
20x15x2
20x12

DB Shrugs:
110x8,6

Curls

Planks - 5x30sec 1x25sec

Benching was good today, the 5/6th reps of the last were tough but I got them. I was trying to concentrate on tucking both arms evenly and not being super crooked, I think I did ok, I felt a bit different.

[quote]Tony Hsiao wrote:
Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- SKILL EVALUATION- Friday- 3/7/08

Bodyweight- 203lb

1)Squat
(100%+)385x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)390x1 (15lb PR)

2)Bench Press (paused)
(100%+)285x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)290x1 (15lb PR)

3)Deadlift
(100%+)520x1 (7.5lb PR)
(100%+)530x1 (17.5lb PR)
(100%+)535x1 (22.5lb PR)

Total: 1,215lb (55lb PR)

Great job Matt! I just watched the videos and you’ve made a lot of progress in such a short time! Keep it up and I look forward to you setting some BIG meet PRs in your next meet![/quote]

Thanks Tony, I hope to hit some big PRs too!

[quote]Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- SKILL EVALUATION- Friday- 3/7/08

3 Hours 30 Minutes

Bodyweight- 203lb

1)Squat
(50%)190x2
(60%)225x2
(70%)265 (belt) x2 x2
(80%)300x1 x1
(90%)335x1
(95%)355x1
(100%+)385x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)390x1 (15lb PR)
395xMISS

2)Bench Press (paused)
(50%)140x2
(60%)170x2
(70%)195x2 x2
(80%)225x1
(90%)250x1
(95%)265x1
(100%+)285x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)290x1 (15lb PR)
(100%+)295x1 (red light for ass coming up- don�??t think it�??d count)
(100%+)300xMISS

3)Deadlift
(50%)255x3
(60%)305x2
(70%)355(belt on)x2 x2
(80%)410x1 x1
(90%)455x1
(95%)485x1
(100%+)520x1 (7.5lb PR)
(100%+)530x1 (17.5lb PR)
(100%+)535x1 (22.5lb PR)
(100%+)540xMISS

Total: 1,215lb (55lb PR)

Sheiko works. And I�??m going to stick with it once I come back.

Talk to you guys soon.

-Matt [/quote]

Congratulations Matt! That is outstanding progress. Those squats were deep too. No question on depth for a meet there. Your bench technique looks extremely efficient. You get in such a great compact position there. I chuckled out loud when I watched you drop 2 of your deadlifts from the lockout position as if you were saying “Take that Mo Fo”.

Really, a great job. Have you thought about which specific Sheiko program you might try next?

[quote]Seattle_Lifter wrote:
Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- SKILL EVALUATION- Friday- 3/7/08

3 Hours 30 Minutes

Bodyweight- 203lb

1)Squat
(50%)190x2
(60%)225x2
(70%)265 (belt) x2 x2
(80%)300x1 x1
(90%)335x1
(95%)355x1
(100%+)385x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)390x1 (15lb PR)
395xMISS

2)Bench Press (paused)
(50%)140x2
(60%)170x2
(70%)195x2 x2
(80%)225x1
(90%)250x1
(95%)265x1
(100%+)285x1 (10lb PR)
(100%+)290x1 (15lb PR)
(100%+)295x1 (red light for ass coming up- don�??t think it�??d count)
(100%+)300xMISS

3)Deadlift
(50%)255x3
(60%)305x2
(70%)355(belt on)x2 x2
(80%)410x1 x1
(90%)455x1
(95%)485x1
(100%+)520x1 (7.5lb PR)
(100%+)530x1 (17.5lb PR)
(100%+)535x1 (22.5lb PR)
(100%+)540xMISS

Total: 1,215lb (55lb PR)

Sheiko works. And I�??m going to stick with it once I come back.

Talk to you guys soon.

-Matt

Congratulations Matt! That is outstanding progress. Those squats were deep too. No question on depth for a meet there. Your bench technique looks extremely efficient. You get in such a great compact position there. I chuckled out loud when I watched you drop 2 of your deadlifts from the lockout position as if you were saying “Take that Mo Fo”.

Really, a great job. Have you thought about which specific Sheiko program you might try next?

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Thanks! I had a slight doubt in my mind about the depth of the 385, so I made sure to get a better angle and sink the 390 deeper. :slight_smile:

I have this week off, even though I’m not the slightest bit sore at this point (which I find sort of odd). I’m going to go back into 37 and then follow up with 32 up until the meet date.

My classification is still the same, so there’s no real point in changing it up too much…repeating 37 and 32 with the new numbers should be enough to elicit some gains. Hopefully some good ones! :smiley:

Thanks for keeping an eye on me.

3/10/08: ME Lower

Sumo Pull against bands(purple):
135x6x2
185x5
225x3
275x1
315x1 - fast for me
335x1 - Kind of slow but I locked it out
285x3

BB Lunges:
45x6
95x6x2

I’m not so good at those, they’re going to take some practice.

Kneeling Squats:
225x10
275x8x2

Ab Pulldown:
95x8
85x5x3

SS w/ Reverse 45 deg band behind neck thing…
8,10,10,12

Today was great, I decided to try some stuff that I haven’t had any success with in the past. I had trouble with lunges with my right leg leading, my left foot kept sliding out and making it difficult. I’m more comfortable with the kneeling squats too, I figured out how to un-rack it without having to move back on my knees. Next time I’ll go for 315. Only thing that bothers me is the top of my feet hurt when doing them…

[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
3/10/08: ME Lower

Sumo Pull against bands(purple):
135x6x2
185x5
225x3
275x1
315x1 - fast for me
335x1 - Kind of slow but I locked it out
285x3

BB Lunges:
45x6
95x6x2

I’m not so good at those, they’re going to take some practice.

Kneeling Squats:
225x10
275x8x2

Ab Pulldown:
95x8
85x5x3

SS w/ Reverse 45 deg band behind neck thing…
8,10,10,12

Today was great, I decided to try some stuff that I haven’t had any success with in the past. I had trouble with lunges with my right leg leading, my left foot kept sliding out and making it difficult. I’m more comfortable with the kneeling squats too, I figured out how to un-rack it without having to move back on my knees. Next time I’ll go for 315. Only thing that bothers me is the top of my feet hurt when doing them…[/quote]

Upstairs we have these blue foldout yoga pad like things that work great for kneeling squats. They are stacked near the assisted pull-up/dip machine.

Nice, I’ll have to grab one next time. I was using a towel and my knees are like permanently imprinted now…

Monday, 3/10/2008: KOME Squat

A. Squats
135 x 8
185 x 5
225 x 5 (PR +40 lb)
245 x 5 (PR +60 lb)
265 x 5 (PR +80 lb)
275 x 3 (PR +5 lb)
275 x 3
275 x 3

B. Hack Squat
180 x 4 sets x 5 reps

C. Angled Leg Press
450 x 4 sets x 5 reps

I had a good session at the gym today. I got some work done with my squat form after feeling like I was out of the groove doing box squats last week. I think I try to reach for the box with my hips when I’m doing box squats. Without the box there, I just go down into the hole as far as I can and come back up when I hit bottom. The whole motion just feels more natural and I wasn’t caving over as much.

In addition to feeling better about my form, I also got a good PR with triples and some cheap PRs with 5s. I’m been doing max work for so long that I haven’t done any working sets of 5s for a long time. The last time I did 5s was back in last June with 185s. It’s nice to know that I have some volume in me yet. :slight_smile:

I do have a question though. I’ve been training without a belt thus far. When should I start using a belt? I haven’t hurt my back and don’t really feel like I will anytime soon. My lower back gets a little tired sometimes but I think I should since I’m arching it so hard to make sure I don’t round it. Is that a bad sign? What are some tell-tale signs that I should be using a belt? And, if so, do you have any recommendations on which one to get?

ME Lower 3 weeks out.

45x??
95x5
135x3
185x3
225x3
275x3
315x2
365x2
385x2 PR + 20
405x2 PR + 40 - Opening with this.

DL
315x1
405x1
455x1 - Opener

SLDLs
225x2x15
255x15

Abs 2x8

Sun 3/9/08
Deload uppder body

Floor Press speed bench strt weight
6x3@50%

Chain tricep extension 4 or 5 sets of 6, ending with 4 chains per side attached to empty ez bar

Tate Press 4x15 ss db curl 4x10

Pullups 3x5 ss green band upright row 3x10

Mon 3/10 deload lower body

box jumps
box squat box jumps with broomstick on back
3x3 on 32" box 2x2 on 38" box
jumps from knees with stick on back 3x3
jumps from knees with stick on back to 38"box 2x2

Incline glute ham raise 4x8

Pulldown abs 4x8 with 140lbs

sled workout for conditioning

3/12/08: ME Upper

Bench:
45x10x2
95x5x2
135x5
185x3
210x3
235x1
245x1 (+5 PR)

DB Flat Press:
85x5x4

PRow:
164x6x3

Cable Row:
205x8
220x5x3

Reverse Shoulder Press:
25x8x4

BB Curls:
90x10
100x6
db hammers - 45x10

Planks:
+25x30sec
+45x30sec
+70x30sec

Great day, hit that 245 bench with ease. Even my training parter said it was fast for me. I concentrated on keeping both arms tucked evenly and I think I did a pretty good job cause the PR was pretty easy. I’m going to start triples next week I think and do 2 week rotations between bench, 2board and floor. Also I’ll rotate db press with that so that I do incline/floor/flat on opposite weeks.

[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
3/12/08: ME Upper

Bench:
45x10x2
95x5x2
135x5
185x3
210x3
235x1
245x1 (+5 PR)

DB Flat Press:
85x5x4

PRow:
164x6x3

Cable Row:
205x8
220x5x3

Reverse Shoulder Press:
25x8x4

BB Curls:
90x10
100x6
db hammers - 45x10

Planks:
+25x30sec
+45x30sec
+70x30sec

Great day, hit that 245 bench with ease. Even my training parter said it was fast for me. I concentrated on keeping both arms tucked evenly and I think I did a pretty good job cause the PR was pretty easy. I’m going to start triples next week I think and do 2 week rotations between bench, 2board and floor. Also I’ll rotate db press with that so that I do incline/floor/flat on opposite weeks. [/quote]

I think that you go too heavy on your accessory stuff. I go heavy on accessory stuff sometime, but not every session and if I do its more like this:

Week 1 80x4x6 I would call this rep/set scheme pretty heavy, but I try to increase the volume each week.
Week 2 80x5x6
Week 3 80x4x8
Week 4 80x5x8

Supplemental stuff is different. A heavy tri movement for sets of 3-5 after bench or a heavy hamstring movement after squats is fine, but I think that you will have better results with more volume on the accessory stuff. Plus, it will increase your work capacity.

Also, The cable row and pendly row is pretty similar. I would have just done 5-8 sets of one of them. You can always rotate one out for there other later.

Wed 3/12 A.M conditioning

I typically dont type up my conditioning workouts in the log but I thought I would put this one in since I got the idea from somebody else just to change it up from either pulling the sled or pushing the prowler

5x through the following medley:
Prowler+120lbs 35 yds
Walk 50Lb Kettlebells back
Pull sled+170 35 yds
push prowler back
Walk KB’s back

I liked this a lot, it really broke up the monotony of only doing one movement

P.M- Shirt work for bench

Just working on light weights and trying to touch the lightest weight possible in my loose Metal shirt, I just dont have the training partners to work with my jacked shirt, maybe after I move to Cinci and can train with a bigger group of experienced competitors

variety of board work starting with 405x3 3 board, 455x1 3 board, 495x1 2 board, 545x1 board, 565 couldnt quite touch chest, went to 545 and did get it to almost touch (had better setup than previous set, 565 touch but got out of groove coming off chest

I will be putting shirt on for the next 3 weeks to get back into the swing of things. I was telling my training partner that since we left our last gym our squats and deads have gone through the roof while our shirt technique has suffered…makes sense since the last place we trained at everybody only competed in bench and we were the only two doing 3 lift work…hopefully the feel will come back after a few good shirt sessions

Tricep roll press 4x6@60’s

Db shrug 3x12@120’s
superset with standing overhead press 3x8@75’s

6 weeks

[quote]Pemdas wrote:

I think that you go too heavy on your accessory stuff. I go heavy on accessory stuff sometime, but not every session and if I do its more like this:

Week 1 80x4x6 I would call this rep/set scheme pretty heavy, but I try to increase the volume each week.
Week 2 80x5x6
Week 3 80x4x8
Week 4 80x5x8

Supplemental stuff is different. A heavy tri movement for sets of 3-5 after bench or a heavy hamstring movement after squats is fine, but I think that you will have better results with more volume on the accessory stuff. Plus, it will increase your work capacity.

Also, The cable row and pendly row is pretty similar. I would have just done 5-8 sets of one of them. You can always rotate one out for there other later. [/quote]

I see what you’re saying. I’ve been trying different rep/set schemes for little 2/3 week intervals but I don’t think I’ve found anything that works and I like. When I go lighter with more sets/reps it doesn’t seem to “challenge” me as much as going heavy for less. I’ll try anything out though, so if it could be beneficial to try what you’re saying, I’ll do it.

I did both rows today because after 3 sets of the prow my lower back was killing me still(carry over from Monday) and I didn’t want to only do 3 sets for back. Normally I don’t do overlapping stuff, or at least I try not to.

Little unrelated but, do you think 3 board press after my ME lift could be beneficial for me at this stage? Or should I keep with the DB’s for now?

[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
Pemdas wrote:

I think that you go too heavy on your accessory stuff. I go heavy on accessory stuff sometime, but not every session and if I do its more like this:

Week 1 80x4x6 I would call this rep/set scheme pretty heavy, but I try to increase the volume each week.
Week 2 80x5x6
Week 3 80x4x8
Week 4 80x5x8

Supplemental stuff is different. A heavy tri movement for sets of 3-5 after bench or a heavy hamstring movement after squats is fine, but I think that you will have better results with more volume on the accessory stuff. Plus, it will increase your work capacity.

Also, The cable row and pendly row is pretty similar. I would have just done 5-8 sets of one of them. You can always rotate one out for there other later.

I see what you’re saying. I’ve been trying different rep/set schemes for little 2/3 week intervals but I don’t think I’ve found anything that works and I like. When I go lighter with more sets/reps it doesn’t seem to “challenge” me as much as going heavy for less. I’ll try anything out though, so if it could be beneficial to try what you’re saying, I’ll do it.

I did both rows today because after 3 sets of the prow my lower back was killing me still(carry over from Monday) and I didn’t want to only do 3 sets for back. Normally I don’t do overlapping stuff, or at least I try not to.

Little unrelated but, do you think 3 board press after my ME lift could be beneficial for me at this stage? Or should I keep with the DB’s for now?

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I tend to rotate my accessory work every 4-5 weeks. The first week back to a movement is usually on the lighter side, but I up the weight each week and try to beat my best record before I switch movements again. Accessory work shouldn’t be an all out effort. I remember you saying that you thought you might being doing to much volume on ME day. I don’t even think you come close to that, but you are pretty consistently lifting a high intensity which will burn you out eventually. Doing a 4x6 or 4x5 for every movement is asking for trouble especially with the max effort stuff on top of it. Just work the muscle the weight will follow.

If your lower back hurts doing BOR rows or some form of them it mean that you are not bracing your abs or they are too weak for weight you are using.

The most important thing for you to work on in your bench right now is bringing the bar down in strait line. Because heavy weight will almost definitly break your form. I am not sure heavy 3-Board work is appropriate right now. Maybe doing it for like sets of 6 with something you know you can hit for 8 would be ok. If anything floor press is going to help you the most. Don’t worry about weight. If you worry about weight then it is only going to reinforce bad movement patterns. Specifically focus on getting both arms to touch the floor at the same time. This not going to fix itself in one session. You need to give it time.

I have a theory that one of your lats is significantly stronger then other one. This would explain why you flare one side really bad.