Westside/PLing Training Thread

Hey Guys
My name is Mark
I’m 17 and have recently entered into this meet
www.southernpowerlifting.com/contest.php?id=29
I have been interested in PLing for a long time and asked my dad if I could go watch the meet and he asked me if I wanted to compete instead and of course what is cooler than actually competing instead of watching youtube videos

Here are my stats
Age: 17
Weight: 196
Height: 5’7
Squat: 455 (hip joint even with patella)
Bench: 280
Deadlift: 495

So here are my few questions
How do i manage my roughly 4 weeks till competition?
How do i train?
What do i eat the day of the meet?
What can i do to mentally prepare myself?
How do i choose my weights for my attempts?
How should i warm up on meet day?
and if you could give me any other tips that would be great

I have read alot about PLing and watched lots of lifts in meets on the internet but this is a whole new world for me so any information would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

01/19/07 - Upper (DE) - Chains

A) Flat Bench - 60%
barx15
135x8
185x5
225x3
add 2 5/8" chains to each side…
225x3x9 (3 grips inside rings)

B) Serratus Press
315x6
365x6
385x6x3

C) Overhead lockouts (Pin #19)
135x3
185x3
225x7 (PR +1 rep)
225x8! (PR +2 reps)

225x8!!

D1) Reverse EZ Curls
+50x10
+70x10
+70x10
+70x10

D2) Wrist Roller (reverse,forward)
+10x3,3
+10x3,3
+10x3,3
+10x3,3

Speed felt great on bench today. I decided to do 9 sets, 3 with each grip because that seemed like the right thing to do. After a couple of weeks of adjusting the lead chain for squats and bench, I’ve finally found the right length where the last link is just barely completely deloaded at the bottom.

This has eliminated any bar swaying, and in general I’m more comfortable taking the bar out with the chains. I’m switching to straight weight for RE work for the next two weeks, and then back to DE with mini bands.

The Serratus Press was easy today. I’m trying my hardest not to track PR’s, because I’m just doing this for shoulder stability, and don’t want to compromise form for a PR, so I’ll increase or decrease the weight weekly depending on how I feel. BTW This was 20lbs heavier than I’ve ever gone. :wink:

Overhead Lockouts are still coming along nicely. A couple of PR’s today, so I think I’ll move the weight up next time and bring the reps down to 6ish.

The rest was just to torture my grip. Forearms are ‘puffy’ right now.

Mark, congrats on deciding to do your first meet, you should have a blast. Everyone has their own rituals leading up to the day of the meet, and in time, you’ll develop your own. I’ll try to answer your questions as best I can, but remember that this is what works for me, and you may find something that works better for you.

[quote]FURRY_GIZZARD wrote:
How do i manage my roughly 4 weeks till competition?
[/quote]
I’ll work backwards from the meet. On the last week before the competition, many people take the whole week off entirely. I’ve found this does not work for me.

I treat my last week before a meet like a deload week. Which means that I’ll train Lower on Monday, and Upper on Wednesday. I’ll pick 2-3 movements, and I’ll do my regular warmups and then 2 sets of 6-8 reps at 70% of the weight I’d normally use for that rep range. So if I could lift 100lbs for 6 reps, I’ll use 70lbs for 2 sets of 6)

Then I take Thurs/Friday completely off.

Two weeks out, I will work up to my openers for the meet. On Monday I’ll work up to my opening Squat, and on Wed my opening Bench. On Thursday or Friday I’ll do some speed pulls, keeping all of my Supplemental and Accessory lifts normal for the week. Then on Sat I’ll do either DE or RE Upper.

Three and Four weeks out will be the end of my normal training cycle, so this will depend on what you’ve been doing up to this point.[quote]

How do i train?

[/quote] Most of your training should already be done by now. You aren’t going to get any stronger just finish up your normal training cycle and dial in your openers.[quote]

What do i eat the day of the meet?
[/quote]
For me it depends on the size of the field, and the number of flights, which unfortunately you might not know until you get there. Pack plenty of food, as the day could run longer than you expect. I’ve been to meets that have lasted 4 hours and ones that have lasted 12 hours.

I mix a bottle of Surge and sip it throughout my lifting, and as soon as I’ve taken my last attempt in a flight, I try to eat something solid. It will really depend on whether there are 2 flights or 3+. The more flights, the longer your down time, but Meet Day is not a day to start experimenting with new foods and/or supplements. [quote]

What can i do to mentally prepare myself?
[/quote]
Just know that you can nail your openers any day of the week. If you are in doubt at all, lower them. The last thing you want to do is bomb out of a meet. Try not to get psyched up until you are ready to lift. If you are getting psyched at 6am and you don’t lift until 10am you are going to be fried. Try to stay in a state of calm until it’s GO time.[quote]

How do i choose my weights for my attempts?
[/quote]
For my opener, I pick a weight that I can triple with perfect form. This means a weight on the squat that I can hit parallel, on bench it’s a weight that I can pause on my chest and on deads, a weight that I can hit without any hint of a hitch.

For my second attempt, I try to break a PR by 5lbs or so. But since this is your first meet, you might want to be a little conservative and save your PR attempt for your 3rd attempt, it depends on the person.

My 3rd attempt allows me a second chance at a PR if I missed on my second attempt. If I nailed my second attempt, this gives me a chance to let it all hang out. This attempt will really be based on how your second one went.[quote]

How should i warm up on meet day?
[/quote]

Warmups should be exactly the same as you do on your gym day. Do just enough to get warm and loose, but not so much that you are at all fatigued. I typically start warming up when the flight before me starts their third attempts. This should give you 15 minutes or so to warm up. Just jump in with the other lifters when the weight on the bar is what you want. Don’t be afraid to ask the other guys to let you warm up with them. [quote]

and if you could give me any other tips that would be great
[/quote]

The last piece of advice I would give you is to contact the meet director. Tell him/her that this will be your first meet, and they will almost always be willing to go out of their way to help you out. From choosing rack heights, to checking your form, to helping you select openers and weight increases on 2nd and 3rd attempts.

Also, talk to the other competitors. People are way more helpful and friendly than you’d expect. It’s a good chance to pick some brains, and make some great contacts.

And have fun! Hopefully this is the first of many meets to come.

Sheiko#37- W1 D3- 1/18/08- Friday

1 Hour 40 Minutes

1)Bench Press (all paused)
(50%)140x7
(55%)155x6
(60%)170x5
(70%)195x4
(75%)210x3 x3
(80%)225x2 x2
(75%)210x3 x3
(70%)195x4
(60%)170x4
(55%)155x8
(50%)140x10

2)Flat DB Flys
(~10%)15x10 x10 x10 x10 x10

3)Squat
(50%)190x5
(60%)225x4 x4
(70%)265x3 x3
(75%)280x3 x3 (belt on) x3 x3 x3

4A)Rope Pushdowns
90x10 x10 70x10 x10 x10

4B)Neutral Grip Pullups
BWx8 x6 x6 x6

5)Good Mornings
115x5 x5 x5 x5 x5

Notes: Well, I never though I could sweat so much from benching, haha. I felt like an average college-aged male gym-goer today with my giant bench volume! All of the weight felt very light.

Wow, pullups sucked. My strength in these has gone down quite a bit since I haven’t really done any pulling in 7 weeks if I include before and after the meet. Oh well, it’ll come back, at least where I need it to be. I don’t know that I need to have the ability to go as heavy on these as I used to (at least not on this program), but it does make sense to have some structural balance.

Heading back to Boston tomorrow and starting school again on Tuesday.

-Matt

[quote]FURRY_GIZZARD wrote:
Hey Guys
My name is Mark
I’m 17 and have recently entered into this meet
www.southernpowerlifting.com/contest.php?id=29
I have been interested in PLing for a long time and asked my dad if I could go watch the meet and he asked me if I wanted to compete instead and of course what is cooler than actually competing instead of watching youtube videos

Here are my stats
Age: 17
Weight: 196
Height: 5’7
Squat: 455 (hip joint even with patella)
Bench: 280
Deadlift: 495

So here are my few questions
How do i manage my roughly 4 weeks till competition?[/quote]

I like to push my training up 4 and 3 weeks out, 2 weeks out I keep it real simple and fairly light 80% at the most may be hit your opener. The week before the meet I like to have light training day on tuesday or wend. I hit my core and grip hard and do a few light rep concentrating on form.
How do i train?

[quote]
What do i eat the day of the meet?[/quote]
I like to eat a normal breakfast eggs oat meal.
Just take some food you like. I take a few apples peanut butter sandwiches. I also take some alot of water and gatorade. Stay hydrated! Save the caffine energy drinks creatine what ever for the dead lift because the meet could last all day.

[quote]
What can i do to mentally prepare myself?[/quote]
Just relax and focus on what you have to do, I like to bring an Ipod. Dont worry about what other people are doing.

[quote]
How do i choose my weights for my attempts?[/quote]
Depend on the equipment that you use, raw? Single ply double ply?

Keep the opener light make moderate jumps.[quote]

How should i warm up on meet day?[/quote]
Keep the reps low, do not waste energy 1 rep concentrate on form.

[quote]
and if you could give me any other tips that would be great

I have read alot about PLing and watched lots of lifts in meets on the internet but this is a whole new world for me so any information would be greatly appreciated
Thanks[/quote]

Good luck! Where is your meet?

ME LOWWER

dynamic warm up
RH 18010
foam roller
land mine abs 35
5*5

reverse band rack pulls mid shin SUMO
(I normally pull conventional but I am thinking about switching to sumo, tried this to day ended up with old inzer briefs and metal pro suit seemed like a good combo.)

2453
335
3
4251
515
1
5651
605
1
6551
695
1
7501 PR
800
1 PR

reverse band sumo pulls from floor
3351
425
1
5151
605
1
6551 PR
700
1 PR

RH 270 2*8

Was feeling pretty damn strong today, weight felt light think I am going to stick with pulling sumo for this next meet. Have to see how the weight goes with out the reverse bands it may be another story just have to try it and see.

DE Upper

135+minis x8x3

DB Floor Press
70x5x10

DB Row
80x25

V-bar Pulldowns
115x5x8

Seated DB Cleans
30x15
30x2x12

Curls
35x3x8

Some external rotation stuff.

DONE!!

folks,
i just put up another three vids from today’s ME squat session. I’m rehabbing a torn adductor muscle. It went really well today. Hopefully i’ll be able to do some free squats in a week or two.

meat

DE Lower

Hang Power Snatch
75x5
85x3
85x5 (PR+2 reps)
95x3 (PR+10)

95x1
85x5

Front Squat 135x4x6 (PR set/rep scheme)

Romanian Deadlifts
155x8
165x8
175x8 (PR+10)

Full Contact Twist 25x10, 25x12

Cable Side Bends pin 10x3x15

Matt-

I just watched your squat video from the 11th. You are letting your knees come in. That’s a good way to injure your knees. You need to focus on shoving them out.

[quote]ChaseT wrote:
Matt-

I just watched your squat video from the 11th. You are letting your knees come in. That’s a good way to injure your knees. You need to focus on shoving them out.[/quote]

Yea, I’m currently working on it. I was doing my best to push them out throughout the squat, but it’s a weakness thing more than being purely technical, so I’m hoping that the appropriate strength and musculature will be built from practicing doing the movement itself being conscious of form.

Thanks for the insight though.

-Matt

1/21/08: DE Upper

Bench:
45x15x2
95x8
135x5
155x4x8

Pullups: (Over & under grip)
+25x4,4,3,4

2 Rope Face Pull:
100x12
120x10x3

Vbar Elbow out pulldown:
130x8x3

DB Shrugs:
120x7,8,8

Db Curls:
35x12,8
30x8 Hammer

Took everyones advice, lowered the weight to around 60-65% and damn if you guys weren’t right all along. Every set was solid, didn’t lose speed off my chest. Was able to hold a decent arch and all together just felt really good.

Pullups are still feeling very weak, Upper back stuff on the other hand is feeling good and light surprisingly enough. I threw some curs in at the end for the hell of it, my arms could use some direct work for a change (not to mention they’re tiny!)

Thanks a lot Modi and Mountain Man for your responses
Today I’m going to sit down and dial in my training for the next 4 weeks and my plans that lead up to the meet
I’m really excited for my first meet and really appreciate your guy’s advice

Mountain Man my meet is in Chattanooga TN on the 23 of Feb
If anyone is gonna be at that meet and wants to show me the ropes that would be great just PM me about it

I’m going to keep reading this thread cause there are some really strong guys on here and I’ve learned a lot already but reading through old posts

Thanks a lot
-Mark

[quote]FURRY_GIZZARD wrote:
Thanks a lot Modi and Mountain Man for your responses
Today I’m going to sit down and dial in my training for the next 4 weeks and my plans that lead up to the meet
I’m really excited for my first meet and really appreciate your guy’s advice

Mountain Man my meet is in Chattanooga TN on the 23 of Feb
If anyone is gonna be at that meet and wants to show me the ropes that would be great just PM me about it

I’m going to keep reading this thread cause there are some really strong guys on here and I’ve learned a lot already but reading through old posts

Thanks a lot
-Mark
[/quote]

is that a SPF meet? i’m doing a SPF meet the first part of march in Kentucky.

meat

[quote]FURRY_GIZZARD wrote:
Thanks a lot Modi and Mountain Man for your responses
Today I’m going to sit down and dial in my training for the next 4 weeks and my plans that lead up to the meet
I’m really excited for my first meet and really appreciate your guy’s advice

Mountain Man my meet is in Chattanooga TN on the 23 of Feb
If anyone is gonna be at that meet and wants to show me the ropes that would be great just PM me about it

I’m going to keep reading this thread cause there are some really strong guys on here and I’ve learned a lot already but reading through old posts

Thanks a lot
-Mark
[/quote]

You should log your training here.

RE Bench

DB Bench 40x15, 12 (PR+7 and 4 reps respectively), 45x9, 40x12

1 Pullup 10x5, 20x4 (PR+2.5), 15x5, 15x4
2 Rear Delt Flies 15x3x15

DB Seated Overhead Press 25x12, 30x10, 25x12

1 Incline Tate Press 25x8, 10, 9
2 DB Shrugs 50x10, 10, 40x20

Left Arm Zottman Curls 20x2x15

My grip was fried from yesterday, or I would have done better with the pullups. My left biceps is weaker than my right, so I’m going to be adding in some extra volume for it from now on, mainly because it is the under hand when I use mixed grip.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
folks,
i just put up another three vids from today’s ME squat session. I’m rehabbing a torn adductor muscle. It went really well today. Hopefully i’ll be able to do some free squats in a week or two.

meat[/quote]
I checked out your videos you are looking strong if I ever get a video camera I would like to post some videos there.

[quote]FURRY_GIZZARD wrote:
Thanks a lot Modi and Mountain Man for your responses
Today I’m going to sit down and dial in my training for the next 4 weeks and my plans that lead up to the meet
I’m really excited for my first meet and really appreciate your guy’s advice

Mountain Man my meet is in Chattanooga TN on the 23 of Feb
If anyone is gonna be at that meet and wants to show me the ropes that would be great just PM me about it

I’m going to keep reading this thread cause there are some really strong guys on here and I’ve learned a lot already but reading through old posts

Thanks a lot
-Mark

You are welcome man, I am only 2 hours south of Chattanooga in NE georgia, where do you live and train now? Where is the meet located in Chattanooga I might try and make that one if I can.
[/quote]

[quote]Mountainman2007 wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
folks,
i just put up another three vids from today’s ME squat session. I’m rehabbing a torn adductor muscle. It went really well today. Hopefully i’ll be able to do some free squats in a week or two.

meat
I checked out your videos you are looking strong if I ever get a video camera I would like to post some videos there.

[/quote]

thanks man… but i’m just getting back into some heavy weight after the adductor tear. you never know how much you use that part of your leg until you can’t. i’m going to try to hit close to 700 raw off the 4 board tomorrow. i don’t have all my leg drive back yet though.

i have three comps coming up and i’m hoping to hit low 700’s in squat and dead raw and hopefully 530 raw on bench. if i can do that, i will total elite as a raw lifter in the 275’s.

i use my digital camera to tape all my vids. not the best quality but it does the trick.

meat

01/20/08 - Lower (ME)

A) Conventional Deadlift
135x6
225x6
315x3
405x3
495x1
545x1
610x0

B) SSB Yoke Bar 14" Box Squats
barx8
170x6
220x6
260x6
310x6
350x6 (baseline PR)

I had to do this lift a day early because tomorrow I would have been rushed. I wanted to test my DL, but it probably wasn’t the best choice since I just hit a rep PR for Sumo Deads on Thursday. I got the 610 to my knees, but it stalled there, and my mid back was screaming, so I set it down. I probably could have hitched the shit out of it if there was money on the table, but I was already a little sore going into today, and decided to fight another day.

My SSB Yoke Bar came on Friday, and I thought about using that as my ME movement, but thought I should get some practice with reps in first. I’m going to use this on my next two RE days as my first movement. The bar is a beast. It weighs 80lbs and is solid as hell. I didn’t know what to expect, so I just made jumps with 25’s and 45’s. The 350 was a good set. I’m sure I’ll have a lot more in me when I don’t DL first, but this was a good strain, and a nice baseline.

Called it a day after those two movements. I may try to hit my lats and abs tomorrow if there’s time.