[quote]Phill wrote:
I need a light weight partner for a NAS team com on August 21 One HW one light weight to team lw = 231 and under. Insterested??[/quote]
pick me pick me! 122 and I can flip a 300lb tire now 
whats a NAS team ?
and looking at your workout today, I think I could be a perty good asset:)
(maybe I shouldnāt use words with ass in them. Seems to be a sensitive subject over here)
c.
[quote]Phill wrote:
How many of you use a belt for DLing?? I tried it twice and fucking hated it never again could barely hit 5 pltes when i was still hitting well over 6 drooped the belt and pulled a PR.
Ive started using the sfor some heavy squats some but man it helps but Im not used to the extra abdominal pressure and my release vale tends to burst LOL But A great tool. Also find A Tight belt great for the heavy yokes.
Just wondering mainly the DLing seems to me more in hindrance then and aid
phill[/quote]
they suck if youāre not consistent with them. Pick a number and always put it on at that point. Or put it on when your around 80% of your max.
Iām used to it now and I think it helps with the dl. could all be in my head too. who knows.
c.
06/28/07
Olympic Style Squat
175x5
219x5
263x5
307x5
350x5
Bench Press
102x5
128x5
154x5
179x5
205x5
Bent Over Row
102x5
128x5
154x5
179x5
205x5
Hanging Leg Raise
17, 13, 10
Back Extension
17, 13, 10
Calf Raise
17,17,17
06/30/07
Press
85x5
102x5
119x5
136x5
Deadlift
246x5
295x5
366x1
406x1
501xmiss
501x1
406x4
Chin Up
BWx5
BW+75x4
BW+75x4
BW+75x4
I was feeling tired today and had waited all day before finally deciding I was, in fact, going to make it to the gym. I showed up 45 minutes before the gym was closing and decided to drop front squats from the workout because I was feeling tired and I wouldnāt be able to fit everything in to 45 minutes with the squats. Despite the fact that I was feeling fatigued, I decided that today was a good day to finally try putting five plates on the bar (plus a couple chips for good measure). It seemed the only way to atone for skipping the squats. The first attempt came off the ground about four inches before I decided to put it down (Iām not sure why). The second attempt went up really slow, but nice and clean with no hitching. The most Iāve done prior to this was 456. The next set of 406 felt pretty light. I donāt usually mark down PRs, but I figured crossing a new 100lb mark and adding a plate to a lift merited a footnote.
Phill: I donāt use a belt either. Iāve tried it before and it just didnāt feel right.
[quote]Kalle wrote:
You get in the same postion as a military press, feet about shoulder width and start the lift with the legs.
Just use the legs to give some extra force to get things moving.[/quote]
Which would be better choice military press or overhead press ? Same question for lats pulldown. Pull to the front or pull to the back ?
teotjunk
[quote]Phill wrote:
How many of you use a belt for DLing?? I tried it twice and fucking hated it never again could barely hit 5 pltes when i was still hitting well over 6 drooped the belt and pulled a PR.
Ive started using the sfor some heavy squats some but man it helps but Im not used to the extra abdominal pressure and my release vale tends to burst LOL But A great tool. Also find A Tight belt great for the heavy yokes.
Just wondering mainly the DLing seems to me more in hindrance then and aid
phill[/quote]
I donāt even own a belt. Donāt miss it either. Caused sharting.
[quote]teotjunk wrote:
Kalle wrote:
You get in the same postion as a military press, feet about shoulder width and start the lift with the legs.
Just use the legs to give some extra force to get things moving.
Which would be better choice military press or overhead press ? Same question for lats pulldown. Pull to the front or pull to the back ?
teotjunk[/quote]
Depends. Military press is done standing with feet together, so your stabilizers (read: core) get more work. OH press is a little more free form, but no leg drive allowed. Push press allows leg drive but no dipping and the jerk has a dip. Not impressed with behind the neck stuff, but Iām old and my shoulders donāt like it. May have uses in Oly lifting.
I prefer pullups rather than pulldowns. Theyāre harder and harder to cheat with. All the articles Iāve read recommend it and they further recommend doing them to the front to avoid shoulder problems. YMMV, ofcourse.
hey - Iām trying to build a cable row/pull-through setup off my cage. I have everything I need except some pulleys rated for 4-5 hundred pounds (Iām overengineering). Anybody have a source they know of I can order form online?
Thanks.
edit:
Never mind. Found some. Sorry to trouble.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
teotjunk wrote:
Depends. Military press is done standing with feet together, so your stabilizers (read: core) get more work. OH press is a little more free form, but no leg drive allowed. Push press allows leg drive but no dipping and the jerk has a dip. Not impressed with behind the neck stuff, but Iām old and my shoulders donāt like it. May have uses in Oly lifting.
I prefer pullups rather than pulldowns. Theyāre harder and harder to cheat with. All the articles Iāve read recommend it and they further recommend doing them to the front to avoid shoulder problems. YMMV, ofcourse.[/quote]
I agree pull ups is better but the problem I find with the pull ups is that I canāt seem to increase the weight. How do you increase the weight for pull ups, short of carrying a weight between your legs which I find troublesome
which one do you train first abs or back ? I understand there is no hard and fast rule but in general I would like to find how most people do it
teotjunk
[quote]teotjunk wrote:
skidmark wrote:
teotjunk wrote:
Depends. Military press is done standing with feet together, so your stabilizers (read: core) get more work. OH press is a little more free form, but no leg drive allowed. Push press allows leg drive but no dipping and the jerk has a dip. Not impressed with behind the neck stuff, but Iām old and my shoulders donāt like it. May have uses in Oly lifting.
I prefer pullups rather than pulldowns. Theyāre harder and harder to cheat with. All the articles Iāve read recommend it and they further recommend doing them to the front to avoid shoulder problems. YMMV, ofcourse.
I agree pull ups is better but the problem I find with the pull ups is that I canāt seem to increase the weight. How do you increase the weight for pull ups, short of carrying a weight between your legs which I find troublesome[/quote]
Well - I did put the weight between my legs at first. Until I could buy a dip belt. Even a length of chain and a carabiner will work for that. Course, you have to pad it a littleā¦
[quote]teotjunk wrote:
which one do you train first abs or back ? I understand there is no hard and fast rule but in general I would like to find how most people do it
teotjunk[/quote]
Abs last for me. Otherwise they are too tired to stabilize on the heavy exercisesā¦
NAS = North American Strongman
ha men only vent this time they did ave a mens womens this year
this one is a pretty damn havey event as well l0ooks killer
Phill
[quote]c. wrote:
Phill wrote:
I need a light weight partner for a NAS team com on August 21 One HW one light weight to team lw = 231 and under. Insterested??
pick me pick me! 122 and I can flip a 300lb tire now
whats a NAS team ?
and looking at your workout today, I think I could be a perty good asset:)
(maybe I shouldnāt use words with ass in them. Seems to be a sensitive subject over here)
c.
[/quote]
[quote]teotjunk wrote:
skidmark wrote:
teotjunk wrote:
Depends. Military press is done standing with feet together, so your stabilizers (read: core) get more work. OH press is a little more free form, but no leg drive allowed. Push press allows leg drive but no dipping and the jerk has a dip. Not impressed with behind the neck stuff, but Iām old and my shoulders donāt like it. May have uses in Oly lifting.
I prefer pullups rather than pulldowns. Theyāre harder and harder to cheat with. All the articles Iāve read recommend it and they further recommend doing them to the front to avoid shoulder problems. YMMV, ofcourse.
I agree pull ups is better but the problem I find with the pull ups is that I canāt seem to increase the weight. How do you increase the weight for pull ups, short of carrying a weight between your legs which I find troublesome[/quote]
Weight belt, chain Plus weight, Dip belt + weight.
Phill
[quote]Phill wrote:
Cailing Kalle, I need a light weight partner for a NAS team com on August 21 One HW one light weight to team lw = 231 and unde HW 232 and over
Insterested??[/quote]
Damn! I am already signed up for two comps in August, one on the 11th and the other on the 25th.
I donāt think scheduling will allow!
Give me some details though,
where?
events? etc
I am a tad small for the 231 class anyways I weigh right around 200 right now, must of the 231s are 240-250!
I would love to do a team comp though.
is it really on a Tuesday?
[quote]Phill wrote:
How many of you use a belt for DLing?? I tried it twice and fucking hated it never again could barely hit 5 pltes when i was still hitting well over 6 drooped the belt and pulled a PR.
Ive started using the sfor some heavy squats some but man it helps but Im not used to the extra abdominal pressure and my release vale tends to burst LOL But A great tool. Also find A Tight belt great for the heavy yokes.
Just wondering mainly the DLing seems to me more in hindrance then and aid
phill[/quote]
I HATE the belt on a standard DL, I get so damn low for the lift it just seems to get in the way. I like it for partail DLās though 18", rack pulls, etc helps me ALOT. So I am guessing if I got used to it it would help.
Exercises I like the power belt on
farmers walk
yoke
squats
axle clean and press
partial deadlifts
probaly a couple more
donāt like it for
Stones
tire flip
log clean and press
deadlift from floor
Just seems to get in the way on these I will use my rehband back support though I love that thing.
Man thats sucks.
Its a team one LW and one HW so one has to be under the 231 one over but I hear you on the small for 231 but fuck it meat said size dont matter Hell at this point im hardly pushing the 230+ class myself but working on that as we speak get back up to 250 or so +
Ill paste the info below looks brutal
[quote]Kalle wrote:
Phill wrote:
Cailing Kalle, I need a light weight partner for a NAS team com on August 21 One HW one light weight to team lw = 231 and unde HW 232 and over
Insterested??
Damn! I am already signed up for two comps in August, one on the 11th and the other on the 25th.
I donāt think scheduling will allow!
Give me some details though,
where?
events? etc
I am a tad small for the 231 class anyways I weigh right around 200 right now, must of the 231s are 240-250!
I would love to do a team comp though.
is it really on a Tuesday?[/quote]
Meet On The Street
Missouri NAS Team Championships
The Firm Health and Fitness Club
1610 Freedom Drive
West Plains, MO 65775
August 25th 2007
Weigh-ins will be Friday 4:00 PM to 8:00 PM
Saturday Morning 7:00 AM to 8:00 AM
Rules Meeting at 8:30 AM
Competition Starts at 9:00 AM
This is a team format and each team will consist of a LW 231 and down and a HWT 232 and up
Events
Overhead Medley
LW must start and at least do two lifts if a LW misses a lift the HWT must start at the missed lift. LW will have to tag the HW. The holding area will be about 25 feet from the implements. HW and LW can tag in and out in any order they want, but the LW must complete two lifts.
Axle 200 BB 225 12" Log 250 Axle 225 BB 250 13" Log 275
DL Medley Rules same as above
Axle 400, Fat Handle Farmers Pick 500, BB 550, Axle 500, Farmers Pick 550, BB 600
Yoke
LW 600lbs down a slight incline at the finish the team must load two 75lb plates on the Yoke and then the HW will take the Yoke 50ā back up the incline. Disadvantage both team mates will have to pick a Yoke crossbar height they both can live with.
Implement Load
Keg 260 Sandbag 220 Stone 260 Keg 290 Sandbag 250 Stone 300
Same rules as DL and Overhead and no tacky only Guerrilla Grip can be used
Truck Load and Push
Large Flatbed Commercial Ton Truck
Implements staggered 25 feet from truck and in must be carried and loaded Sandbags 2 (220) Kegs 2 (240) Stones 2 (260) On the loading no order both competitors going at the same time to load the truck as fast as they can.
Once the truck is loaded both partners push the truck 100 feet.
Entry Fees $70 Per Team
Must Have A Current NAS Card (will be available the day of the meet)
ENTRY Must Be Post Marked by Aug 16th, 2007
LATE ENTRIES will not be accepted and any late post marks will be returned to the sender
Meet Director Rodney Wood
Phone Number 417 256 2297 email rodwood1967@yahoo.com
[quote]Phill wrote:
Weight belt, chain Plus weight, Dip belt + weight.
Phill[/quote]
Can the weight belt be used for adding weight while doing sits up of hanging leg raises ? Otherwise I was thinking that ankle weights might be a better investment.
teotjunk
Phill, no weight belt for me on anything. I had thought about using one on heavy squats, and I still might, but up to this point I havenāt felt the need.
Teotjunk,
I wouldnāt limit myself to picking āthe bestā accessory movement. Set PRās for Pullups and Chinups both. Same for DB Rows, Incline DB Rows, BORās, etc.
Fat Man pullups (inverted rows) are a nice alternative to BOR/T-Bar Rows. Set a bar up in a power cage at waist level and hang from it with the body in a plank position and pull your chest to the bar. Itās pretty much the opposite of a bench press so you should get some good carryover.
Try to cycle you acc. movements every few weeks and put movements that address your weakest links first.
[quote]Norweige wrote:
6/30/07 ME Dead
Inspired by Modi I thought Iād pull a heavy dead today.
135 x 2
185 x 2
225 x 2
275 x 2
315 x 1
365 x 1 (chalk)
405 x 1
455 x 1
500 x 1 (95% of max)
Iāve only pulled something over 465 w/o a belt once, and even that was 485. 500 wasnāt a great pull but it wasnāt a grind either. I simply forgot to put the belt on after 465.
535 (PR attempt) x miss
NOTES: I made two mistakes in this sessionā¦
One, I know better than pull anything over 90% before attempting a PR. I can on the squat and bench but not this. Two, I didnāt belt-up. Double wammy.
After deadlifting, I did the second day of our SAQ programāforward and retro high speed treadmill hop ons. I got up to 11.5 mph retro before my form broke down and 15 mph forward.[/quote]
This is usually true for me too. Once I pull over 90%, Iām pretty much done for the day. Thatās why my last warmup was 525 before I pulled 600. Like you, I can get away with it on bench and squat, but not deads.
Chalkā¦hmmf 
Good news is that 500 felt easyā¦Youāll hit 535 next time, now that you know how to build up to it. Keep up the good work.