Westside/PLing Training Thread

Gentlemen,
Today I am giddy as a school girl. I just got back from my test drive of the gym I’m lifting at this summer.

6 power racks with adjustable benches
6 oly platforms w/ bumper plates
4 Bench presses

So I warm up with a few speed squats, but then the platforms were calling my name since i’ve never been on one. I didn’t feel like doing oly lifts so i did deadlifts with bumper plates, forgive me if that is blasphemy.

I was having so much fun I decided to go heavy even though its supposed to be speed day. Then i go do some pullthroughs and what do i see outta the corner of my eye? hidden over by the smith machine there are 2, count em, 2 GHR’s.

Even though i already felt smoked, I had to try em out. I’ve tried the “natural” version a few times, but the real thing was amazing.
The moral of the story:

I can’t walk, when I move my hamstrings cramp up, and i couldn’t be happier. :slight_smile:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

But I’m wondering if I really have any functional strength considering I count the weight of the bar. Plus I rest the bar during pauses.

meat

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I doubt you do, I mean sure, you squat 700+, but how much can you squat on a bosu ball?

Whats that, never even tried it?
Thats what I thought… nancy.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
But I’m wondering if I really have any functional strength considering I count the weight of the bar. Plus I rest the bar during pauses.

meat

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You know meat, I just didn’t want to go down that road, but YOU opened the can of worms so here goes. How do you get 710 on the bar in the first place?

Isn’t that 7-45’s, 1-10, 1-5, and 1-2.5 on each side? Is my math wrong? Are you really using 5’s and 2.5’s to get stronger? I thought you were only supposed to use the 45’s…

[quote]Modi wrote:
The bad news, of course, is that I have no idea how my gyms scale will compare to the one at the meet. [/quote]

better figure a couple lbs over yours or be prepared to strip.

[quote]
I wouldn’t want to be the car behind me with all that spitting going on![/quote]

ahh, don’t be shy. Its all in the angle. Just gotta luanch em in the right direction.

c.

Cool I hear ya like a tool to be used like doing partials etc. just wasnt sure if they were allowed. Thats some crazy weight bro

Phill

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Phill wrote:
Another damn fine w/o bro

Are they allowing the briefs etc in the fed you lift??

Keep it up’

Phill

no they aren’t allowed. I just wanted to see how much I could put up with them. Also the heavy weight makes my true raw weight feel light. I think I could have hit, maybe 735 last night. It felt good. I can see why people like gear.

meat

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Great post meat

By the way man we toppled the 4000 barrier seems like yesterday was 2000

Phill

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
gags wrote:

now having had over 700lbs on my back i can say that your squat is just silly

Thanks man!! I tell everyone that comments on the weight that I lift, that it is just a #. I used to look at heavy weight and say there’s no way. Once I decided to just look at it as a different # than before, I’ve made awesome gains. The sky is the limit. I always keep it safe and try to limit the risk of injury. I either lift it or not, either way- there’s no fear.

meat
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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

On the fat bastard scale, i rate it as slightly nauseous. It will be sick when i hit 800.

never satisfied,
meat

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ROFLMAO

Nice

Phill

geeezzz…

You guys are putting up such great numbers…

It makes me feel like a “Water Distribution Engineer”. :wink:

[quote]Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
But I’m wondering if I really have any functional strength considering I count the weight of the bar. Plus I rest the bar during pauses.

meat

You know meat, I just didn’t want to go down that road, but YOU opened the can of worms so here goes. How do you get 710 on the bar in the first place?

Isn’t that 7-45’s, 1-10, 1-5, and 1-2.5 on each side? Is my math wrong? Are you really using 5’s and 2.5’s to get stronger? I thought you were only supposed to use the 45’s…[/quote]

You caught me. I can’t believe I could be so stupid. As we all know the way to really get stronger is to continually increase the reps until you can make a big jump in weight.
We learned that on some very imformative thread. So, the next time I head to the gym, I’m going to toss every plate under the 45’s.

Later, I’m going to post a really blurry picture on the physique and performance photo thread without stating any specific questions or information. And then for good measure I want to post a picture in the rate my physique thread with the title “Yes, all powerlifters are fatties”.

meat

[quote]4est wrote:
geeezzz…

You guys are putting up such great numbers…

It makes me feel like a “Water Distribution Engineer”. ;)[/quote]

you’re a funny guy…

funny ha ha not funny gay.

meat

[quote]Phill wrote:
Great post meat

By the way man we toppled the 4000 barrier seems like yesterday was 2000

Phill

maraudermeat wrote:
gags wrote:

now having had over 700lbs on my back i can say that your squat is just silly

Thanks man!! I tell everyone that comments on the weight that I lift, that it is just a #. I used to look at heavy weight and say there’s no way. Once I decided to just look at it as a different # than before, I’ve made awesome gains. The sky is the limit. I always keep it safe and try to limit the risk of injury. I either lift it or not, either way- there’s no fear.

meat

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I know, we are only getting stronger. Besides, we can’t let those damn bastards over there at the Brotherhood of Iron thread catch us.

Although they probably will. They are leaner with more functional strength.

Modi… I couldn’t resist.

meat

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

…we can’t let those damn bastards over there at the Brotherhood of Iron thread catch us.

Although they probably will. They are leaner with more functional strength.

meat

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Im telling you were in trouble it takes a good three or four of us to equal the functionality. some day though we’ll be functional to, plus seems were gaining strength in numbers :slight_smile:

Phill

Assistance Day May 17th
OK the squat w/o the other day was a good one not crippling sore but have slight stiffness/DOMS in whole of legs hams, glutes, hams thighs etc so didn?t go HEAVY or progress weight wise On the leg press went higher rep felt good though

1)Leg Press
4, 6, 8, and 10 plates x 20 reps
12 plates x 15 then rest pause to 20

  1. 1 arm Incline Smith bench 125lbs / 1 Arm Row 110lbs
    Wrist 85% nice progress here
    4 x 8 for each

3)leg curl / leg extension
3 sets #110 / #120, 10-20 reps

  1. back extension / abs
    3 sets #200 / #180 15-20 reps

4)rear delt / pec deck
3 sets #90 / #14, 10-15 reps

  1. Standing calf raise / shrugs on same
    3 sets 10 plates

  2. db curls and oh tri extension
    3 sets some db?s high rep

  3. lots of cable raises etc to work casted shoulder, up back, chest etc

All in all good
Phill

Modi - Thanks for the advice and encouragement. I would say the two (not eating and not making the reps) are definitely related. I just need to start preparing my food days ahead so I don’t have to think about it during busy times. Checking out AA’s pics of his food prep, I guess I can’t say it’s impossible for me to do…

Lower half
Box squat (14" box)
135x5
165x5
205x5
245x5
285x3 - gives me something to work towards

deficit deadlift(2" deficit)
235x5 (sumo)
265x5 (sumo)
305x5 (sumo)
345x5 (sumo)
385x5 (conventional)

Power ring fallouts (6" off floor)
1x20,1x15,1x10,1x10

Notes - pussed out on squat. Coulda gotten 4 and perhaps 5. How often do we stop simply because it’s uncomfortable rather than from real fatigue? In my case I lost the groove on rep 2 and didn’t get it back on 3 and had to grind it. And then I wasn’t in it anymore so I racked.

[quote]Phill wrote:
Assistance Day May 17th
OK the squat w/o the other day was a good one not crippling sore but have slight stiffness/DOMS in whole of legs hams, glutes, hams thighs etc so didn?t go HEAVY or progress weight wise On the leg press went higher rep felt good though

1)Leg Press
4, 6, 8, and 10 plates x 20 reps
12 plates x 15 then rest pause to 20

  1. 1 arm Incline Smith bench 125lbs / 1 Arm Row 110lbs
    Wrist 85% nice progress here
    4 x 8 for each

3)leg curl / leg extension
3 sets #110 / #120, 10-20 reps

  1. back extension / abs
    3 sets #200 / #180 15-20 reps

4)rear delt / pec deck
3 sets #90 / #14, 10-15 reps

  1. Standing calf raise / shrugs on same
    3 sets 10 plates

  2. db curls and oh tri extension
    3 sets some db?s high rep

  3. lots of cable raises etc to work casted shoulder, up back, chest etc

All in all good
Phill[/quote]

another good solid training session.

how’s the range of motion coming with the arm?

meat

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Phill wrote:
Assistance Day May 17th
OK the squat w/o the other day was a good one not crippling sore but have slight stiffness/DOMS in whole of legs hams, glutes, hams thighs etc so didn?t go HEAVY or progress weight wise On the leg press went higher rep felt good though

1)Leg Press
4, 6, 8, and 10 plates x 20 reps
12 plates x 15 then rest pause to 20

  1. 1 arm Incline Smith bench 125lbs / 1 Arm Row 110lbs
    Wrist 85% nice progress here
    4 x 8 for each

3)leg curl / leg extension
3 sets #110 / #120, 10-20 reps

  1. back extension / abs
    3 sets #200 / #180 15-20 reps

4)rear delt / pec deck
3 sets #90 / #14, 10-15 reps

  1. Standing calf raise / shrugs on same
    3 sets 10 plates

  2. db curls and oh tri extension
    3 sets some db?s high rep

  3. lots of cable raises etc to work casted shoulder, up back, chest etc

All in all good
Phill

another good solid training session.

how’s the range of motion coming with the arm?

meat
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THx call me crazy but I really think this day helps all of it maily recovery but I think little muscles are getting stronger and the leg press this time that im going slow with it Squat HEAVY etc and on this day use it as a assistance is aiding me we;ll see.

Arm good Im doing a LOT LOT more then im sure doc wants me to but just feeling it otu and ROM is prob only 2 or so inches from full. Keeping the scar moist still tearing and stretching,. It, the arm, has wigged out a few time the last couple days went into crazy spasms not pain just muscle bouncing LOL. Im pushing it but trying to be very smart as well.

thanks for asking

Phill

[quote]skidmark wrote:

Notes - pussed out on squat. Coulda gotten 4 and perhaps 5. How often do we stop simply because it’s uncomfortable rather than from real fatigue? In my case I lost the groove on rep 2 and didn’t get it back on 3 and had to grind it. And then I wasn’t in it anymore so I racked.[/quote]

Thats a tough call if way out the groove like going to get hurt niot just “this is fuckin hard” then I say reraqck rest and nail that shit proper come back hit it solid if you know you got it.

If its just fucking crazy hard keep going they aint all going to be pretty. have to weight the advantage and disadvantage if it an Oh im going to get injured stop if its a Im going to have to see stars and have blood come out my nose to get this DO IT

In short depends

Phill

Overhead day 5/17/07

12" log press
95x8
145x5
165x1
175x1
185x1* (+5PR)
195x bail atleast I got it off my chest this time, progress

Neutral grip DB overhead press
45lb db’s 3x8 first time I have gotten the 45s 3x8 so thats good, good speed on these.

Log power “curls” Watched Svend Karlsen’s Viking Power so I had to do some now that I have a log
95x3x8

Bunch of BS personal crap going on right now, got about 1 hour of sleep last night wasn’t sure if I was going to train today, glad I did nothing relieves the anger/frustratiton/stress like busting a PR. I swear if it wasnt for the iron I would go nuts, it has really helped my life.

Nice work on the PR bro

Phill

[quote]KO421 wrote:
Overhead day 5/17/07

12" log press
95x8
145x5
165x1
175x1
185x1* (+5PR)
195x bail atleast I got it off my chest this time, progress

Neutral grip DB overhead press
45lb db’s 3x8 first time I have gotten the 45s 3x8 so thats good, good speed on these.

Log power “curls” Watched Svend Karlsen’s Viking Power so I had to do some now that I have a log
95x3x8

Bunch of BS personal crap going on right now, got about 1 hour of sleep last night wasn’t sure if I was going to train today, glad I did nothing relieves the anger/frustratiton/stress like busting a PR. I swear if it wasnt for the iron I would go nuts, it has really helped my life. [/quote]

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

I know, we are only getting stronger. Besides, we can’t let those damn bastards over there at the Brotherhood of Iron thread catch us.

Although they probably will. They are leaner with more functional strength.

Modi… I couldn’t resist.

meat

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Must…resist…urge…to kill…

You laugh at functional strength but what will happen when you need to get out of a life threatening situation by using all of your functional strenght? Huh? What will you do in that situation buddy!

I’m sorry, I got a whole lotta nuthin’.

On a more serious training note. Do you fellas have problems keeping your ass on the bench when benching?

I find that when I’m trying to drive with my legs I tend to bring my ass up.