[quote]Phill wrote:
Ha I agree 100%^ on the anal part and craftsman ship etc I can get crazy as well and hell may take a while but the shits done RIGHT not like today fucking everything instant disposable.
From rebuilding cars, engines etc it does boil down to pride, and work ethic. I firmly beleive thats missing in 99.9% of our world today and kids , ppl in general are just fucking them selves by not learning a trade. Thats everyone should take at least a summer if not a fw years and just work damn hard a labor job. Youll learn more about real life and REAL ppl in that time then any time in your life.
The best ppl I know are the simplest, just honest hard working ppl. and sure they may not be book smart but there Life real life smart and IMO that goes a hell of a lot further. Hell I got 8+ years of college and two degrees one high level degree and ill be the first to tell you I learned more in prob just one damn summer doing concrete building house, doing High steel, general labor etc then all that college sure I learner there but not like this.
even if you KNOW for a fact your going to be an office jockey , or what the hell have you it will build character strenght both physical and mental. Give you an appreciation for well hard work what it take and also that its just hard work just keep plugging and stop bitchin and itll get done hell ya may learn something and have fun doing it.
Id have to say it translate well and even make you a better lifter etc. Not just the physical but mental pushing through sit putting up with 100+ degree weather knee deep in fucking mud building walls, pumping mud digging hole. learning a trade and hell how to be self sufficient. Not having to rely on anyone but knowing meeting certain real ppl you can they come build your house you go insulate theres or what not.
LOl huge can of worms, ppl today IMO are supposedly smarter then ever but essentially dont know a damn thing real how to do shit, hell even cook a hamburger. PPl are simply afraid of doing shit as theyve never had to.
Ok Ill shut up I agree and nothing wrong and everything right IMO about being anal , knowing how to do shit jack of all trades etc.
just when you think this thread cant get any better hell were now handing out Important life lessons Just get in there and do the damn thing learn it what ever it is itll do nothing but help.
Stepping off the shop box to get back to tearing out old tile 
Phill
maraudermeat wrote:
Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
I definitely agree with you about craftsmanship. I do all my work becuase now a days its all about getting the job done as fast as possible. I put a deck on my house last year and took me most of the summer because I’m so anal about things. No nails at all. all screwed together with all the hole drilled out first, so no splitting of the boards.
good luck with your back. take it slow but steady.
meat
Holy shit, did I just write that, or did you? I built a deck on my house last year, all 2x10 construction, doubled the header and rim joists, 6x6 notched posts for the railings, all predrilled and screwed.
Decking is mahogany 1x6 screwed with stainless steel trim screws. It took the whole summer too, but you could anchor a ship to it…now if I just had some water nearby…
The back sid of my house has a bump out that extends out over the foundation so I couldn’t attach the deck to the house. Mine was done pier style, so it’s free standing. I have 15 6x6 posts holding it up. I dug all the holes by hand with a post hole digger and shovel. It was fun digging out boulders the size of a truck tire out of each hole.
the sense of acomplishment afterwards is very rewarding though. besides, no one can do the job that you can do yourself. It becomes a labor of love becuase you are doing it for your family.
sounds like many of us have more in common than just the iron.
meat
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great post Phill!! I caught myself nodding while I was reading it. I couldn’t agree more. It seems today that people are generally weak willed and fragile. You can always tell the people that are self reliant.
Especially men these days. These metrosexuals look like you could break them with two fingers.
I have an undergraduate degree in exercise physiology and a master’s in Education. But like you said, I learned more from working with my hands and from others that work with their hands. I am glad that I don’t have to dig ditches anymore to make ends meet but I appreciate those that do. The days of the teenage out doing construction work for the summer seem to be over. everything is handed to them on a silver platter.
Like you, I could go on and on.
agian, great post Phill.
meat
