Westside/PLing Training Thread

Hey guys,

I’m having a tough time finding some deadlift slippers online. I went to Inzer, Elitefts, APT, and some others and I haven’t been able to find them. I need some place that can deliver in 5 days or less. I came across www.liftinglarge.com and they have deadlift slippers and claim to deliver to most places in the US within 2-3 days. Anyone have any experiences with them?

-Matt

[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
Hey guys,

I’m having a tough time finding some deadlift slippers online. I went to Inzer, Elitefts, APT, and some others and I haven’t been able to find them. I need some place that can deliver in 5 days or less. I came across www.liftinglarge.com and they have deadlift slippers and claim to deliver to most places in the US within 2-3 days. Anyone have any experiences with them?

-Matt[/quote]
Ordered a singlet from them and got it in 3days on a regular shipment. They were pretty reponsive to questions as well.

Tell you what Im going to have either one bad ass left arm or over over training left arm befor this is said and done.

between the digging now knocking out stick walls, sub floor, now brick wall running hammer drill, 16 lb sledge and pic ax, concrete saw all left handed lol.

good stuff

may really effect ye old upper body training this week we’ll see. Im putting the Uber frequency training to a test.

hope all had a great weekend

Phill

random thought.
whenever i do any tricep work or dumbbell pressing of any kind, my elbows always click and the tendon area feels sore.

I realized that they always click when my elbow joint passes 90 degrees of flexion. So I started doing tricep extensions as half reps, never passing 90 degrees.
But for some reason, my elbows don’t bother me when i bench. A movement which gives some people elbow pain, hmm.

then i realized, even with a close grip I’m able to touch without my elbows passing 90 degrees. With my regular grip they only bend about 60.
So fuck it, i don’t need to work my triceps an any range of motion past 90 degrees.

Does this logic work, or is there a big benifit to doing your tricep accessory work with a full range of motion?

#1 if it hurts DONT do it.

#2 at full bend at the elbow the tri tendon is in the opposite position as the bicep its at its Full extension ie. weakest point so its going to be the hardest area strenght wise as well as wear and tear.

I wouldnt Ignore that area of the ROM in totality Id try and fix your condition. hjit that area lighter controlled motion slow eccentrics may be good. Lay on the power when going DEEP full bend dont JERK let that tendon repair get stronger etc.

This much the same prob I had with my bi I neglected the direct work and just used my friggin hard headed will power on many lifts kegs, stones cleans etc and jerk the piss out of it etc. where am I now post surgery from a repaired blown bicep. and will damn sure be paying attention more to tendon and joint strenght as well as some assistance work even if its boring as hell

In short yes make you HEAVY ass tricep work be big compounds like partial rack presses board work close grips etc. drop the loads for Full ROM work get blood flow in there it will alos aid tendon health. try band press powns they naturally get easier in that weak area you speak about and harder in the end

Phill

[quote]evansmi wrote:
random thought.
whenever i do any tricep work or dumbbell pressing of any kind, my elbows always click and the tendon area feels sore.

I realized that they always click when my elbow joint passes 90 degrees of flexion. So I started doing tricep extensions as half reps, never passing 90 degrees.
But for some reason, my elbows don’t bother me when i bench. A movement which gives some people elbow pain, hmm.

then i realized, even with a close grip I’m able to touch without my elbows passing 90 degrees. With my regular grip they only bend about 60.
So fuck it, i don’t need to work my triceps an any range of motion past 90 degrees.

Does this logic work, or is there a big benifit to doing your tricep accessory work with a full range of motion?[/quote]

OK way the hell off topic but figure Ill ask you all if your interested in this

I have finally broke down and decided to sell my old 66 chevy step side pick up, first vehicle I ever owned. Oh the memories lol. Anyway have a buyer for the truck minus the engine and tranny so ill be pulling them and selling separate the tranny nothing special just a 350 turbo but the motor is a 327 out of a 1966 corvette has the Camel hump heads the original 327 intake with oil filler up front etc etc.

has about 10,000 on a quality professional rebuild and was not a rough 10,000. has been sitting just chillin for a bit. anyway if you know anyone or are interested in such a thing give me a holler. Ill prob ebay the thing if not.

Phill

[quote]Phill wrote:
#1 if it hurts DONT do it.

#2 at full bend at the elbow the tri tendon is in the opposite position as the bicep its at its Full extension ie. weakest point so its going to be the hardest area strenght wise as well as wear and tear.

I wouldnt Ignore that area of the ROM in totality Id try and fix your condition. hjit that area lighter controlled motion slow eccentrics may be good. Lay on the power when going DEEP full bend dont JERK let that tendon repair get stronger etc.

This much the same prob I had with my bi I neglected the direct work and just used my friggin hard headed will power on many lifts kegs, stones cleans etc and jerk the piss out of it etc. where am I now post surgery from a repaired blown bicep. and will damn sure be paying attention more to tendon and joint strenght as well as some assistance work even if its boring as hell

In short yes make you HEAVY ass tricep work be big compounds like partial rack presses board work close grips etc. drop the loads for Full ROM work get blood flow in there it will alos aid tendon health. try band press powns they naturally get easier in that weak area you speak about and harder in the end

Phill

[/quote]
Thats a really good point. I wouldn’t want to let the tendon stay weak and then really mess something up down the road. Thanks

Sat 05-12-07 AR/RE and shoulders

warmup/prehab
#2 Band presses 30
#3 Band presses 15
Shoulder Horn 15lbs. - 2 x 12
Pro-Grip Face pulls 50lbs. - 2 x 12

DB OHP
35 x 10
45 x 12
50 x 10
** second set of 50lbs I could not get into position… this had me seriously PO’ed. So, I decided to work on getting the weight into position by doing Kettlebell clean and presses. 35lb. KB are the heaviest we have at the gym. I’ll do these for a few weeks.

KB clean and Press
35 x 10
35 x 10

Face Pulls
110 x 13
120 x 12 [PR]
120 x 12
120 x 12
Staying at this weight for a bit. Body English is as high as it should get.

1-Arm Cable Rows
100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8 - stay

#2 Band tri ext - 50

5/11/07 ME/RE Bench

A)ME/RE DB Bench
Worked up to 130 x 5, deep and slow
100 x 8, 8, 6

B)Seated Cable Row=220 x 6 x 4

C)Single Arm Tricep Rope Extensions=30 x 12, 10, 8

D)Alt. DB Curl=40 x 10, 8, 8

E)FM Fly=90 x 12, 10, 6

NOTES: Nothing too special. Better than last week!

5/12/07 ME Lower

A)ME Free Squat
Bar x 8
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 3
365 x 1
385 x 1
405 x 1
430 x 1 (tied PR and smoked that shit)
435 x 1 (5 lb. PR)

B)Unsupported Single Leg Squats=BW x 10, 8, 8

C)Natural G/H Raises=BW x 6 x 2

D1)Hanging Pikes=8 x 3

D2)45 Degree Back Raise=BW + 45 x 12 x 2

NOTES: 405 felt a little slow so I didn’t think this was going to be a PR day. By the time I had gotten to that weight there was NO ONE else in the weight room.

Then, this guy I advise a little in his training came in, so I loaded up to my previous PR and had him stick around for support, and I smoked it like it was 315. Decided then to take a shot at 435, which I barely got but got none the less.

[quote]Norweige wrote:
Then, this guy I advise a little in his training came in, so I loaded up to my previous PR and had him stick around for support, and I smoked it like it was 315. Decided then to take a shot at 435, which I barely got but got none the less.[/quote]

Great work!

So, had two good workouts over the weekend. Except on Friday. I had to do regular bench because I forgot my boards at home. I was suppose to do 2 boards but oh well, I got through it.

I really need to start taking some videos of myself to post on here. I want to make sure that my form is good on all my lifts.

For some reason though I will feel like a dork bring my digital camera into the gym with me. I have a pretty big digital camera, it’s not exactly discrete.

Thanks man. I just ordered the slippers from them.

-Matt

[quote]undesired08 wrote:
Matt McGorry wrote:
Hey guys,

I’m having a tough time finding some deadlift slippers online. I went to Inzer, Elitefts, APT, and some others and I haven’t been able to find them. I need some place that can deliver in 5 days or less. I came across www.liftinglarge.com and they have deadlift slippers and claim to deliver to most places in the US within 2-3 days. Anyone have any experiences with them?

-Matt
Ordered a singlet from them and got it in 3days on a regular shipment. They were pretty reponsive to questions as well.

[/quote]

Nice work bro on the PR

Phill

[quote]Norweige wrote:
5/12/07 ME Lower

A)ME Free Squat
Bar x 8
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 3
365 x 1
385 x 1
405 x 1
430 x 1 (tied PR and smoked that shit)
435 x 1 (5 lb. PR)

B)Unsupported Single Leg Squats=BW x 10, 8, 8

C)Natural G/H Raises=BW x 6 x 2

D1)Hanging Pikes=8 x 3

D2)45 Degree Back Raise=BW + 45 x 12 x 2

NOTES: 405 felt a little slow so I didn’t think this was going to be a PR day. By the time I had gotten to that weight there was NO ONE else in the weight room.

Then, this guy I advise a little in his training came in, so I loaded up to my previous PR and had him stick around for support, and I smoked it like it was 315. Decided then to take a shot at 435, which I barely got but got none the less.[/quote]

Hey guys my training partner told me to come over here and get some advice. I started lifting last september. When I started I was 5’8" 230 lbs, now im still 5’8" but about 195lbs (21yrs old). My PRs are only 245 (which i did for 5 reps), 195, and 315. I know they are nothing special but I just started in september and before september I was just a fat ass.

I started lifting because I was preparing for some physical tests for FDNY, NYPD, and some other PDs in NY. I started running regularly about a month ago because I know alot of the tests have a required time for a mile and a half (FDNY is 12min). I benched with the barbell today, which i havn’t done in two weeks, and I feel like I’m already getting substantially weaker.

Is there anyway to lose more fat, gain muscle, get my mile and half time down to 12min and get my lifts up all at the same time? I know it sounds like I want it all and I do. I have time to go to the gym 3 or 4 days a week and on off days I usually run.

I’m moving for the summer and at my new gym I was planning on starting the cycle I got from the EFS template book.

The cycle consists of 3 weeks which I guess I’d repeat over the summer:
week 1- Dynamic Becnh, Max effort Squat DL, ME bench (on seperate days)
week 2 -DE Squat/DL, DE Bench, ME Squat/DL
week 3 - ME Bench, DE Squat/DL, DE Bench.
You get the idea.

Anyway I hope that somone else hasn’t already asked about this and gotten answers I just dont have time to look through the 3000 posts hah.

woah, ok.
As far as the running. a mile and a half is 6 laps on a standard track, 2 minutes per lap. Day 1, one lap in less than 2 minutes, jog the rest. day 2, 2 laps in less than 4, jog the rest, and so on. that got my 2 mile time below 13 when I was in AIT for the guard.

As far as lifting. Theres a ton of good info on this whole site, not just this thread, the people on this thread know there shit, but they can’t tell you the perfect program for you. browse the training articles and you’ll learn a ton. You’ve already been to elitefts. keep reading those training articles.

Yes, you can get fast and strong at the same time, just not as fast or as strong.

good luck with the PD. I’m studying criminal justice right now, hoping to follow the same path.

[quote]ss847859 wrote:
Hey guys my training partner told me to come over here and get some advice. I started lifting last september. When I started I was 5’8" 230 lbs, now im still 5’8" but about 195lbs (21yrs old). My PRs are only 245 (which i did for 5 reps), 195, and 315. I know they are nothing special but I just started in september and before september I was just a fat ass.

I started lifting because I was preparing for some physical tests for FDNY, NYPD, and some other PDs in NY. I started running regularly about a month ago because I know alot of the tests have a required time for a mile and a half (FDNY is 12min). I benched with the barbell today, which i havn’t done in two weeks, and I feel like I’m already getting substantially weaker.

Is there anyway to lose more fat, gain muscle, get my mile and half time down to 12min and get my lifts up all at the same time? I know it sounds like I want it all and I do. I have time to go to the gym 3 or 4 days a week and on off days I usually run.

I’m moving for the summer and at my new gym I was planning on starting the cycle I got from the EFS template book.

The cycle consists of 3 weeks which I guess I’d repeat over the summer:
week 1- Dynamic Becnh, Max effort Squat DL, ME bench (on seperate days)
week 2 -DE Squat/DL, DE Bench, ME Squat/DL
week 3 - ME Bench, DE Squat/DL, DE Bench.
You get the idea.

Anyway I hope that somone else hasn’t already asked about this and gotten answers I just dont have time to look through the 3000 posts hah.[/quote]

Question to all–

Has anyone here upon this thread ever successfully implemented some sort of jumping drill for DE lower body work? Phil, I seem to remember you doing jump squats, did you feel like you got something out of those?

Now that I’m getting a little lighter (3.5 pounds, 1" off my hips and 1/2" off my waist since May 7th) I was thinking it’d be fun to actually be a little athletic and jump around some. Some ideas I have…

1)Jump Squats with and without pause in the hole

2)Jumping from a low box squat position onto an elevated surface, such as a bench, while holding on to some weight in the form of a plate or single dumbbell.

3)Single leg jumps onto a bench (not sure how good the carryover would be to my squat)

4)BodyPump classes

5)Crack

If any of these are viable options, what sort kind of set/reps/rest/volume would I do that would be similar to a traditional 8-10 sets of 2 on the box squat?

[quote]Phill wrote:
OK way the hell off topic but figure Ill ask you all if your interested in this

I have finally broke down and decided to sell my old 66 chevy step side pick up, first vehicle I ever owned. Oh the memories lol. Anyway have a buyer for the truck minus the engine and tranny so ill be pulling them and selling separate the tranny nothing special just a 350 turbo but the motor is a 327 out of a 1966 corvette has the Camel hump heads the original 327 intake with oil filler up front etc etc.

has about 10,000 on a quality professional rebuild and was not a rough 10,000. has been sitting just chillin for a bit. anyway if you know anyone or are interested in such a thing give me a holler. Ill prob ebay the thing if not.

Phill[/quote]

was it a c10? before you gutted it?
sweet truck. too bad you have to sell.

c.

[quote]evansmi wrote:
woah, ok.
As far as the running. a mile and a half is 6 laps on a standard track, 2 minutes per lap. Day 1, one lap in less than 2 minutes, jog the rest. day 2, 2 laps in less than 4, jog the rest, and so on. that got my 2 mile time below 13 when I was in AIT for the guard.

As far as lifting. Theres a ton of good info on this whole site, not just this thread, the people on this thread know there shit, but they can’t tell you the perfect program for you. browse the training articles and you’ll learn a ton. You’ve already been to elitefts. keep reading those training articles.

Yes, you can get fast and strong at the same time, just not as fast or as strong.

good luck with the PD. I’m studying criminal justice right now, hoping to follow the same path.

[/quote]

Great advice above you can do both but need to find the priority. if thats the running right now DO it and training keep it minimal but MONEY lower the volume and go HEAVY try and preserve as much strength as you can. Get in pass that test and you can do anything from there

Phill

[quote]Norweige wrote:
Question to all–

Has anyone here upon this thread ever successfully implemented some sort of jumping drill for DE lower body work? Phil, I seem to remember you doing jump squats, did you feel like you got something out of those?[/quote]

Yes loved them and still sort of do them Im doing Plyos UP not down minimizing knee pounding etc but yes I really think they helped.

I would alternate the speed box squats and these. For the jumps I would go deep and Pause for a few secs two - 3 and FIRE aim to get air but literally it was only and inch or two due to the load. But really feel it helped my explosion on the bottom learn how to TURN IT ON!!

[quote]
Now that I’m getting a little lighter (3.5 pounds, 1" off my hips and 1/2" off my waist since May 7th) I was thinking it’d be fun to actually be a little athletic and jump around some. Some ideas I have…

1)Jump Squats with and without pause in the hole

2)Jumping from a low box squat position onto an elevated surface, such as a bench, while holding on to some weight in the form of a plate or single dumbbell.

3)Single leg jumps onto a bench (not sure how good the carryover would be to my squat)

4)BodyPump classes

5)Crack

If any of these are viable options, what sort kind of set/reps/rest/volume would I do that would be similar to a traditional 8-10 sets of 2 on the box squat? [/quote]

Id go with standing Plyo jumps UP and step down. I am doing these weekly and even my fat ass ahas quickly moved to getting over a 37inch box up from 28 pretty quick. Them also try the squat jumps

and Hell if conditioning etc is what your looking for try strongman stuff tires, carries etc

Phill