Westside/PLing Training Thread

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
thought I would post a pic of the big fucking hole I had to dig this weekend. I should have rented a bobcat and dug it out in 10 minutes. I’m a cheap bastard.

meat[/quote]

Ha nice work and I agree a damn skid loader youd a been done if 5 mins but hell you got er done now can crack a beer and admire your handy work LOL

Did more of the same myself trying to do anything that takes two arms. Patio was done so attacked the side walk tore out all the brick relayed done ill have to get pics as well

Nice work

Phill

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
thought I would post a pic of the big fucking hole I had to dig this weekend. I should have rented a bobcat and dug it out in 10 minutes. I’m a cheap bastard.

meat[/quote]

Now what have to cut the foundation for the window?? More fun those damn quickie saws suck after about 10 mins ion the hands. Ha grip work

Phill

[quote]gags wrote:
events
1.log strict- 1405,5,5 1704
2.yoke-46050ft2 55050ft 64050ft 71050ft 73050ft-1 drop–PR
3.2 stone series-260/300*1,1,1

not bad considering yesterday’s booze fest…although there was no way any medley’s were gonna happen[/quote]

Nice work On both training days. PR’s every where prob some serious doms more from the first session then the second

Phill

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
thought I would post a pic of the big fucking hole I had to dig this weekend. I should have rented a bobcat and dug it out in 10 minutes. I’m a cheap bastard.

meat[/quote]

GPP :wink:

So, I’m ready to change up to a WSB/conjugated type of workout. I need help with this as, 1) I’m not the smartest bear in the woods and 2) This is an Upper Body Only workout for a paraplegic (I’m still sexy).

So, I want to a 4 day per week routine.

Monday - ME Chest
Tues - DE Back
Thurs - DE Chest
Sat - ME Back and shoulders

The routine I may try:

  • 4 days per week
  • Rotating exercised every 3 weeks
  • Using 2 primary exercises per session - ex: flat bench and inc. bench
  • Use one supplementary exercise

I’m not really sure what to use as supplementary/recuperation exercises. Also, I do have to be careful about overall volume to prevent overtraining. What suggestions or criticisms would you guys have for this sort of routine? I still feel a little lost.

Here is a list of available exercises for me:

Chest

For shoulder rehab/prehab and warm up:
* Shoulder Horn - 10 lbs 3 x 15
* Band Presses (Performed seated with band behind back and hands in the end loops of the band. That allows me to have pushup mechanics while seated) - 3 x 20 Should I do these every day?
* Face Pulls - Supinated grip 2 x 12 (ball of rope against pinky finger) How often should I do these?

  • BB Flat Bench

  • BB Incline Bench

  • BB Decline Bench

  • DB Flat Bench

  • DB Incline Bench

  • DB Decline Bench

  • CG Bench Press and variants

  • Reverse Grip Bench Press - Temp out due to left shoulder “twinge” at bottom of lift.

  • Band Resisted Bench Press

  • Band Assisted Bench Press

  • BB Floor Presses

  • DB Floor Presses

  • Rack Lockouts

  • 1, 2, 3 or 4 Board presses

  • EZ Curl Pullovers

  • DB Pullovers

Someday:
* Blast Straps - to allow dips. I could sit on the floor with legs straight out and feet on a milk crate. I think it would work.
* Chains - a few of us in the gym are talking about getting chains. We need to hit the salvage yards soon.
* Bands - The gym only has a couple. Once again, a few of us are talking about getting more.

I also have access to various bench shirts.

Back

* Face Pulls - Pronated Grip (Ball of rope against index finger)

* Seated 1-Arm Cable Rows - I do these seated on the floor with my legs straight out. One arm exercises while the other arm is held straight, hand on the floor, between my knees for support.

This is probably my favorite back exercise. The start position is with pronated grip between or a couple inches past my feet. The finish position is at the hip with supinated grip, elbow in and as far back as possible and chest out.

This exercise tends to work my shoulders a fair amount too. Actually, I think this exercise helps my shoulders a lot.

* ISO - Row type machine - I like this one especially for unilateral work. I can do a LOT more weight with one side at a time. However, I can (and did) get carried away with moving extra weight.

My left arm developed bicep tendon pain and something in the left shoulder joint was definitely strained. I’ve not done any single arm ISO rows for a few months. I did some light weight, high rep bilateral work last Saturday and it felt good. One BIG benefit of the ISO Row for me is that it’s one of the very few ways I can work my spinal erectors. That requires bilateral work, low chest pad placement and really focusing on arching my back.

  • Wide grip Pulldowns

  • Pro-grip Pulldowns

  • Rope Pulldowns

  • 45 degree Incline, face down, DB rows - Elbows out to 90 degrees for middle back

  • 45 degree Incline, face down, DB rows - Elbows in tight for a traditional type DB row

Shoulders

Shoulders already get a lot of work from bench days and oddly, from the one-arm cable rows. I’m thinking about doing shoulder specific work only on Saturdays.

  • Face Down, incline side raises
  • Face Down, incline front raises - probably not needed?
  • Over head DB press
  • Over head BB press in power rack
  • Over head BB lockouts in rack
  • Seated shrugs
  • Face Down, incline shrugs

Other Junk
I can basically find a way to do most of the other isolation stuff such as the various curls and tri extensions. However, some of it does have to be performed with DBs and/or one arm at a time.

[quote]4est wrote:
So, I’m ready to change up to a WSB/conjugated type of workout. I need help with this as, 1) I’m not the smartest bear in the woods and 2) This is an Upper Body Only workout for a paraplegic (I’m still sexy).

So, I want to a 4 day per week routine.

Monday - ME Chest
Tues - DE Back
Thurs - DE Chest
Sat - ME Back and shoulders

The routine I may try:

  • 4 days per week
  • Rotating exercised every 3 weeks
  • Using 2 primary exercises per session - ex: flat bench and inc. bench
  • Use one supplementary exercise

I’m not really sure what to use as supplementary/recuperation exercises. Also, I do have to be careful about overall volume to prevent overtraining. What suggestions or criticisms would you guys have for this sort of routine? I still feel a little lost.

Here is a list of available exercises for me:

Chest

For shoulder rehab/prehab and warm up:
* Shoulder Horn - 10 lbs 3 x 15
* Band Presses (Performed seated with band behind back and hands in the end loops of the band. That allows me to have pushup mechanics while seated) - 3 x 20 Should I do these every day?
* Face Pulls - Supinated grip 2 x 12 (ball of rope against pinky finger) How often should I do these?

  • BB Flat Bench

  • BB Incline Bench

  • BB Decline Bench

  • DB Flat Bench

  • DB Incline Bench

  • DB Decline Bench

  • CG Bench Press and variants

  • Reverse Grip Bench Press - Temp out due to left shoulder “twinge” at bottom of lift.

  • Band Resisted Bench Press

  • Band Assisted Bench Press

  • BB Floor Presses

  • DB Floor Presses

  • Rack Lockouts

  • 1, 2, 3 or 4 Board presses

  • EZ Curl Pullovers

  • DB Pullovers

Someday:
* Blast Straps - to allow dips. I could sit on the floor with legs straight out and feet on a milk crate. I think it would work.
* Chains - a few of us in the gym are talking about getting chains. We need to hit the salvage yards soon.
* Bands - The gym only has a couple. Once again, a few of us are talking about getting more.

I also have access to various bench shirts.

Back

* Face Pulls - Pronated Grip (Ball of rope against index finger)

* Seated 1-Arm Cable Rows - I do these seated on the floor with my legs straight out. One arm exercises while the other arm is held straight, hand on the floor, between my knees for support.

This is probably my favorite back exercise. The start position is with pronated grip between or a couple inches past my feet. The finish position is at the hip with supinated grip, elbow in and as far back as possible and chest out.

This exercise tends to work my shoulders a fair amount too. Actually, I think this exercise helps my shoulders a lot.

* ISO - Row type machine - I like this one especially for unilateral work. I can do a LOT more weight with one side at a time. However, I can (and did) get carried away with moving extra weight.

My left arm developed bicep tendon pain and something in the left shoulder joint was definitely strained. I’ve not done any single arm ISO rows for a few months. I did some light weight, high rep bilateral work last Saturday and it felt good. One BIG benefit of the ISO Row for me is that it’s one of the very few ways I can work my spinal erectors. That requires bilateral work, low chest pad placement and really focusing on arching my back.

  • Wide grip Pulldowns

  • Pro-grip Pulldowns

  • Rope Pulldowns

  • 45 degree Incline, face down, DB rows - Elbows out to 90 degrees for middle back

  • 45 degree Incline, face down, DB rows - Elbows in tight for a traditional type DB row

Shoulders

Shoulders already get a lot of work from bench days and oddly, from the one-arm cable rows. I’m thinking about doing shoulder specific work only on Saturdays.

  • Face Down, incline side raises
  • Face Down, incline front raises - probably not needed?
  • Over head DB press
  • Over head BB press in power rack
  • Over head BB lockouts in rack
  • Seated shrugs
  • Face Down, incline shrugs

Other Junk
I can basically find a way to do most of the other isolation stuff such as the various curls and tri extensions. However, some of it does have to be performed with DBs and/or one arm at a time.
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First off, great to have you stray to the dark side. Are you thinking of competing in the bench? Why have you decided to switch? I"m going to assume that you are trying to bring up your bench. If this is the first time trying this system out, I would go with a ME bench day, a DE bench day and then an accessory day.

There’s no need for a DE back or ME back day.

On ME bench day I would pick two main ME movements in the 1 to 6 rep range and then follow it up with some accessory work.

On DE bench day I would do one speed movement for 8 sets of 3 reps and then follow up with some accessory work

On Accessory day you can emphasis the shoulder, back, biceps or triceps. I prefer this day to be more of a RE (repetition day). I like to keep these reps in the 10-12 rep range with moderate weight.

I would switch it up every two weeks. I also wouldn’t worry with the bands or chains for awhile. go with straight weight for now.

for your accessory work after your ME or DE work, you can pick either tricep movements, shoulders, or back movements or even the “guns” if you prefer. keep these in the moderate range for reps and weight.

Keep it simple in the beginning. I wouldn’t do more than three days a week right now. go to www.elitefts.com for plenty of article and use the exercise index to get ideas for different ME and accessory movements.

good luck and keep us informed!

welcome to the dark side,
meat

Thanks MM,

I’m doing this for mass… yes I want my bench to go up but want all the size I can get. I tend to have the “all or none” type personality and need to push myself with this. I have the gym and the support team needed. I just need the plan and the follow-through (and to keep my joints healthy). Some day I may compete but not for a year or two. You do not want to see me in tights.

I want to be the baddest mofo in a wheelchair most people have ever seen. Considering the population of paraplegic weightlifters is really small, this is not too lofty of a goal. Also, when I’m in shape, I can do things as simple as getting gas or groceries and people tell me I inspire them in some way or another. So by doing something I like, it helps others. How cool is that?

As far as working back, the idea for ME and DE days was for overall size/thickness. Plus, I can’t do deads or squat for back work. That being said, I’ll take your 3 day per week suggestions and run with them…

roll with them…

whatever.

[quote]4est wrote:
First off, great to have you stray to the dark side. Are you thinking of competing in the bench? Why have you decided to switch? I"m going to assume that you are trying to bring up your bench.

Thanks MM,

I’m doing this for mass… yes I want my bench to go up but want all the size I can get. I tend to have the “all or none” type personality and need to push myself with this. I have the gym and the support team needed. I just need the plan and the follow-through (and to keep my joints healthy). Some day I may compete but not for a year or two. You do not want to see me in tights.

I want to be the baddest mofo in a wheelchair most people have ever seen. Considering the population of paraplegic weightlifters is really small, this is not too lofty of a goal. Also, when I’m in shape, I can do things as simple as getting gas or groceries and people tell me I inspire them in some way or another. So by doing something I like, it helps others. How cool is that?

As far as working back, the idea for ME and DE days was for overall size/thickness. Plus, I can’t do deads or squat for back work. That being said, I’ll take your 3 day per week suggestions and run with them…

roll with them…

whatever.

[/quote]

If you are going to be training for mass, you will need to really hit the accessory work hard and keep the reps in the 8 to 12 range. typically ME work is done in the 1 to 5 rep range and mass gains are secondary to the strength gains.

The westside approach is one of determining your weeknesses and then choosing movements to strengthen them. Proper technique is vital. Do you currently train your bench using powerlifting techniques?

Strictly using the westside style you will be training the bench as a priority and then picking accessory movements to strengthen the muscles that are involved in the bench.

I’m sure that you can find a way to make it work for you, but building mass on this system is definitely secondary.

keep us informed,
meat

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
4est wrote:
First off, great to have you stray to the dark side. Are you thinking of competing in the bench? Why have you decided to switch? I"m going to assume that you are trying to bring up your bench.

Thanks MM,

I’m doing this for mass… yes I want my bench to go up but want all the size I can get. I tend to have the “all or none” type personality and need to push myself with this. I have the gym and the support team needed. I just need the plan and the follow-through (and to keep my joints healthy). Some day I may compete but not for a year or two. You do not want to see me in tights.

I want to be the baddest mofo in a wheelchair most people have ever seen. Considering the population of paraplegic weightlifters is really small, this is not too lofty of a goal. Also, when I’m in shape, I can do things as simple as getting gas or groceries and people tell me I inspire them in some way or another. So by doing something I like, it helps others. How cool is that?

As far as working back, the idea for ME and DE days was for overall size/thickness. Plus, I can’t do deads or squat for back work. That being said, I’ll take your 3 day per week suggestions and run with them…

roll with them…

whatever.

If you are going to be training for mass, you will need to really hit the accessory work hard and keep the reps in the 8 to 12 range. typically ME work is done in the 1 to 5 rep range and mass gains are secondary to the strength gains.

The westside approach is one of determining your weeknesses and then choosing movements to strengthen them. Proper technique is vital. Do you currently train your bench using powerlifting techniques?

Strictly using the westside style you will be training the bench as a priority and then picking accessory movements to strengthen the muscles that are involved in the bench.

I’m sure that you can find a way to make it work for you, but building mass on this system is definitely secondary.

keep us informed,
meat
[/quote]

perhaps then he could do a defranco-esque thing and concentrate more on RE work than DE, maybe just do a DE move every second or 3rd week…just a thought

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

If you are going to be training for mass, you will need to really hit the accessory work hard and keep the reps in the 8 to 12 range. typically ME work is done in the 1 to 5 rep range and mass gains are secondary to the strength gains.

I’m sure that you can find a way to make it work for you, but building mass on this system is definitely secondary.

keep us informed,
meat
[/quote]

Ok, I’d like to change my answer to I want “mass as a by-product of strength”. At my size, more strength has equaled more mass anyway.

Yes, I’ve been training bench with powerlifter style.

Here is more info than you could ask for about the gym… and pics: http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1139800

I know we have at least 3 multi-record holders there. Chris has the most at 17 world records and something like 35 other records. Nice work for a kid who’s not even a legal adult yet.

I agree with the 3 day approach even with mass as the main goal. With you hitting the ME day 2 main moves and then assistance. DE day assistance and an accessory day more RE like man thats crazy amount of work. Plus your practically walking on your hands unlike the reast of us.

I would do as above said and for the beginning prod concentrate mainly on the 3 rep maxes to get rolling dont ferar away from 1 RM’s but the 3 reps seems to be great for those newer. main thing try and get a PR each week be it 1-5 reps. hit a few assistance moves. and get out.

you’ll be having HIGH frequency this rote hitting the same groups essentially 3 times a week. Hit em hard get the hell out. Your going to have to really feel out the recovery etc.

Great goals and no doubt you can reach them and more move from being one of the baddest MOFO’s in a chair to simply one of the baddest MOFO’s period

Phill

4est, great to have you on here. There’s alot of great, knowledgeable guys here and they are always willing to help. I wish I would have jumped on here a long time ago.

Haven’t been able to train last 2 days, guess deload week came early. I caught the stomach virus from hell and the last 2 days have been horrible. I’ll spare the details but I couldn’t even keep medicine or liquids down this morning, so I am severely dehydrated. I’m pissed cuz I had my boards all set up for ME bench tonight yesterday. I think I will try to get in a “ME” deload tomorrow. Just keep my moves around the 5-6 range and work up until it starts to get tough.

I heard this bug is going around all over the US so load up on the vitamins fellas. Stay healthy and strong.

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:
4est, great to have you on here. There’s alot of great, knowledgeable guys here and they are always willing to help. I wish I would have jumped on here a long time ago.

Haven’t been able to train last 2 days, guess deload week came early. I caught the stomach virus from hell and the last 2 days have been horrible. I’ll spare the details but I couldn’t even keep medicine or liquids down this morning, so I am severely dehydrated. I’m pissed cuz I had my boards all set up for ME bench tonight yesterday. I think I will try to get in a “ME” deload tomorrow. Just keep my moves around the 5-6 range and work up until it starts to get tough.

I heard this bug is going around all over the US so load up on the vitamins fellas. Stay healthy and strong.[/quote]

Pedialyte bro Lots of it the stuff fore babies it’ll rehydrate you

Gte to feeling better

Phill

3/19/2007 ME Bench

A)ME Flat DB Press
20 x 5
40 x 3
60 x 3
80 x 3
100 x 3
115 x 3
130 x 5 x 3 (PR!)

B)Hammer-Strength Wide-Grip Iso-Row=330 x 6 x 4

C1)Single Arm Tricep Rope Extension=30 x 8 x 3

C2)DB Hammer Curl=50 x 10 x 3

C3)Freemotion “Scoop” Fly=100 x 8 x 3

D)Fallouts=8 x 3

NOTES: Today I really felt as though I needed a deload. Having not decided how I would do that by the time I trained, I went ahead and did my “regulaf” ME bench workout and PR’d. I thought it’d be a LONG time before I’d be able to do 5 x 5 with the 130s, but I see it in my near future.

I’m going to do a DE lower session on Wednesday, maybe work up to a heavy single on the box squat, then take the rest of the week off. 4 full days off should do me some good.


soon…

Monday 3-19-07

ME Upper

Running on 2 hours sleep…didnt have a choice about that, big ass project due today…ended up having a good lift though

2 board work with shirt…

warmed up and did 405x3 raw as last warmup
shirt on
495x1, 545x1, 585x1, 610x1

felt great and the shirt felt good so i got talked into going to my chest with 600 since 610 2 board was a joke…so I went for it and smoked it up and missed at lockout…but I definitely would have gotten it if I was fresh…oh well even though I missed it it was still beneficial

Chinups

KB tri extensions…

ME Upper March19th 07

  1. Strict DB Clean and press for warm up and to feel things out
    10 x a lot
    20 x some
    35 x 10
    60 x 5
    80 x 3
    100 x 2
    Felt good no pain this week even on the clean

  2. BB Strict/Push Press
    95 x 5
    135 x 3
    185 x 3
    205 x 1 Blaa tough SUCK would work on these more but ill be gimpified
    Push press from here
    205 x 3
    225 x 3
    250 x 2 (load and rep PR)
    255 x 1 (PR)
    260 x 1 (PR pretty easy but called it)
    OK nice these felt great man it?s a huge difference being able to crush the bar again use thumb etc.

2A)1ncline press from Pins at fore head dead stop (pin #11)
225 x 5
245 x 5
260 x 4
These felt good as well

2B) Parallel grip Chins
Bw x 9,6,7,4
Tried one set pronated grip No hurt the bi went back to parallel still felt weird but not pain

No rest just keep rollin on next ones

3A) Rope Rows (alternate from face pull to down near waist)
50 lbs x 25
100lbs x 14 (2 sets)

3B)Bench Press Paused
135 x 25,
185 x 9
135 x 14
Feels good to bench again these nice slow and paused

3C)Cable Abs (moderate)
100 x 12 (3 sets)

Good w/o

Surgeon update

OK I lose my arm one week from today a noon. Lose it for 6-8 weeks very restricted use (read cast) said not even a darn 2oz paint brush, then rehab. Ill beat that part the healing with good nutrition etc NO worries
Then rehab slow but very good chance of very full recovery

Guess there are two ways to do this minimal invasive and well maximum. the minimal way small cut on inside of arm and one outside, the other long scar half way up bicep to half of forearm on inside. Ha I have to much and to dense of muscle in forearm etc for the minimal so I get to add another scar to the collection :slight_smile:

Oh and risk 1 in 100 get and infection from surgery, 1 in 50 get nerve damage that makes partial or complete loss of hand function SUCK!!! we’ll not be getting that one.

Phill

[quote]Phill wrote:
ME Upper March19th 07

  1. Strict DB Clean and press for warm up and to feel things out
    10 x a lot
    20 x some
    35 x 10
    60 x 5
    80 x 3
    100 x 2
    Felt good no pain this week even on the clean

  2. BB Strict/Push Press
    95 x 5
    135 x 3
    185 x 3
    205 x 1 Blaa tough SUCK would work on these more but ill be gimpified
    Push press from here
    205 x 3
    225 x 3
    250 x 2 (load and rep PR)
    255 x 1 (PR)
    260 x 1 (PR pretty easy but called it)
    OK nice these felt great man it?s a huge difference being able to crush the bar again use thumb etc.

2A)1ncline press from Pins at fore head dead stop (pin #11)
225 x 5
245 x 5
260 x 4
These felt good as well

2B) Parallel grip Chins
Bw x 9,6,7,4
Tried one set pronated grip No hurt the bi went back to parallel still felt weird but not pain

No rest just keep rollin on next ones

3A) Rope Rows (alternate from face pull to down near waist)
50 lbs x 25
100lbs x 14 (2 sets)

3B)Bench Press Paused
135 x 25,
185 x 9
135 x 14
Feels good to bench again these nice slow and paused

3C)Cable Abs (moderate)
100 x 12 (3 sets)

Good w/o

Surgeon update

OK I lose my arm one week from today a noon. Lose it for 6-8 weeks very restricted use (read cast) said not even a darn 2oz paint brush, then rehab. Ill beat that part the healing with good nutrition etc NO worries
Then rehab slow but very good chance of very full recovery

Guess there are two ways to do this minimal invasive and well maximum. the minimal way small cut on inside of arm and one outside, the other long scar half way up bicep to half of forearm on inside. Ha I have to much and to dense of muscle in forearm etc for the minimal so I get to add another scar to the collection :slight_smile:

Oh and risk 1 in 100 get and infection from surgery, 1 in 50 get nerve damage that makes partial or complete loss of hand function SUCK!!! we’ll not be getting that one.

Phill[/quote]

Awesome workout Phill,

Good luck in the surgery, hope it goes well and recovery is quick.

Oh it brought tear to my eyes but just backed out of three of the four meets I am signed and payed for ( no refund but hey there for good causes and that a chance we take) I am however NOT bowing out of the Mid July meet and am going to aim to be back and rolling STRONGER than ever by then

Phill

[quote]Phill wrote:
ME Upper March19th 07

  1. Strict DB Clean and press for warm up and to feel things out
    10 x a lot
    20 x some
    35 x 10
    60 x 5
    80 x 3
    100 x 2
    Felt good no pain this week even on the clean

  2. BB Strict/Push Press
    95 x 5
    135 x 3
    185 x 3
    205 x 1 Blaa tough SUCK would work on these more but ill be gimpified
    Push press from here
    205 x 3
    225 x 3
    250 x 2 (load and rep PR)
    255 x 1 (PR)
    260 x 1 (PR pretty easy but called it)
    OK nice these felt great man it?s a huge difference being able to crush the bar again use thumb etc.

2A)1ncline press from Pins at fore head dead stop (pin #11)
225 x 5
245 x 5
260 x 4
These felt good as well

2B) Parallel grip Chins
Bw x 9,6,7,4
Tried one set pronated grip No hurt the bi went back to parallel still felt weird but not pain

No rest just keep rollin on next ones

3A) Rope Rows (alternate from face pull to down near waist)
50 lbs x 25
100lbs x 14 (2 sets)

3B)Bench Press Paused
135 x 25,
185 x 9
135 x 14
Feels good to bench again these nice slow and paused

3C)Cable Abs (moderate)
100 x 12 (3 sets)

Good w/o

Surgeon update

OK I lose my arm one week from today a noon. Lose it for 6-8 weeks very restricted use (read cast) said not even a darn 2oz paint brush, then rehab. Ill beat that part the healing with good nutrition etc NO worries
Then rehab slow but very good chance of very full recovery

Guess there are two ways to do this minimal invasive and well maximum. the minimal way small cut on inside of arm and one outside, the other long scar half way up bicep to half of forearm on inside. Ha I have to much and to dense of muscle in forearm etc for the minimal so I get to add another scar to the collection :slight_smile:

Oh and risk 1 in 100 get and infection from surgery, 1 in 50 get nerve damage that makes partial or complete loss of hand function SUCK!!! we’ll not be getting that one.

Phill[/quote]

Phill,

Chicks dig scars!! I’m sure you will recover in less than half the time the doctor says.

your workout sure don’t look like you have half an arm. Mr. Volume is still the undesputed champion.

…and in the gimp division we have Phill.

meat

[quote]Norweige wrote:
3/19/2007 ME Bench

A)ME Flat DB Press
20 x 5
40 x 3
60 x 3
80 x 3
100 x 3
115 x 3
130 x 5 x 3 (PR!)

B)Hammer-Strength Wide-Grip Iso-Row=330 x 6 x 4

C1)Single Arm Tricep Rope Extension=30 x 8 x 3

C2)DB Hammer Curl=50 x 10 x 3

C3)Freemotion “Scoop” Fly=100 x 8 x 3

D)Fallouts=8 x 3

NOTES: Today I really felt as though I needed a deload. Having not decided how I would do that by the time I trained, I went ahead and did my “regulaf” ME bench workout and PR’d. I thought it’d be a LONG time before I’d be able to do 5 x 5 with the 130s, but I see it in my near future.

I’m going to do a DE lower session on Wednesday, maybe work up to a heavy single on the box squat, then take the rest of the week off. 4 full days off should do me some good.[/quote]

Nicw work bro and way to feel it out and not just plan thing youll get better and better as you go more instictual, sure will have some days that you do the wrong then just be ready to adatp

Nice work keep it up

Phill