Westside for Skinny Bastards Rules!

I made a post around a month ago asking about the Westside For Skinny Bastards routine that I was going to start on.

I’ve really been going balls out with this stuff. I train one day, and even if I don’t get as sore as I expected I can really “feel” it the next. This program has been working fantastic for me. Even with my diet (which isn’t necessarily bad, considering I eat alot more than the average teenager, It still isn’t as good as it really SHOULD be) I’ve really noticed some solid considerable gains in all around muscle mass and ability in weight training.

I guess my question is: when should I start thinking about moving into a more advanced type of program or method of training, weaning myself off of the Westside for Skinny Bastards program which has given me considerable results? Or should I?

Regardless, I know I am going to stay on the program for quite some time. I don’t have any sports that I participate in, and I really don’t have that much of a social life (I am primarily a solitary type of person) so I have a lot of time to devote to weightlifting (outside of school and studying for my classes).

It is strange that I’ve been getting these results considering that I was positive that I already got any “newbie” gains I should have. My only guess is that I’ve been gaining so fast because the style of training is so much different from my old method.

Congratulations! I’m guessing your new gains came from just lifting heavier weights than usual. Yes, Westside for Skinny Bastards is a great template that I follow myself.

Move on to an advanced program? There are “advanced” guys using this program. Manipulate it and get every thing out of it.

It’ll help if you gave some more info about yourself (i.e. training age, age, weight, height, goals).

Goodluck. Keep training hard!

-Kev

Well, since it will help, I’m 15, have been working out seriously for about a year and a half. I currently weight in at 218 (few pounds gain of muscle since I started the program a few weeks ago) and am 6’1.

My main goals are to simply get stronger. Not really in specific lifts, just in pure piledriving unadulterated strength. Size, that’s not even a real “goal”, if I somehow were to get stronger without getting a bit bigger, I wouldn’t give a shit. It’s nice, but it’s not in my mindset. The only thing I don’t want as far as size is to turn into a fattuh, but I don’t give a shit about my sought after “six pack” so to speak. So go figure.

[quote]Kevin Haywood wrote:
Congratulations! I’m guessing your new gains came from just lifting heavier weights than usual. Yes, Westside for Skinny Bastards is a great template that I follow myself.

Move on to an advanced program? There are “advanced” guys using this program. Manipulate it and get every thing out of it.

It’ll help if you gave some more info about yourself (i.e. training age, age, weight, height, goals).

Goodluck. Keep training hard!

-Kev[/quote]

I agree with all the above congrats, more info, and the program your on is as advanced as you make it if its working keep bustin ass Keep it basic and work hard.

Phill

[quote]harryhoudini wrote:
Well, since it will help, I’m 15, have been working out seriously for about a year and a half. I currently weight in at 218 (few pounds gain of muscle since I started the program a few weeks ago) and am 6’1.

My main goals are to simply get stronger. Not really in specific lifts, just in pure piledriving unadulterated strength. Size, that’s not even a real “goal”, if I somehow were to get stronger without getting a bit bigger, I wouldn’t give a shit. It’s nice, but it’s not in my mindset. The only thing I don’t want as far as size is to turn into a fattuh, but I don’t give a shit about my sought after “six pack” so to speak. So go figure.[/quote]

I say keep it up. maybe mix in a few new ME moves what have you been doing?? etc

How about off days what are you doing seeing as WS4SB has only the one lower day??

In short what is your training looking like.

Phill

Well, I’ve had to plan all of this around school, homework, chores, job, etc,… So it’s basically two lower body days and two upper body days, and maybe an extra workout which can be either strongman work that I can perform around my house or some sprints, etc,…

It goes much like this.

Monday- RE Upper

Tuesday- off

Wednesday- Lower Body

Thrursday-off

Friday-ME upper

Saturday- I don’t roll on Shabbas, but its’s okay after sundown, so… Lower Body

Sunday- Off

I’ve also been trying hard to keep the diet pretty good. Always 200-300 grams of protein (mostly because I love the taste of my shakes, and I have about 30 pounds of steak in the freezer). I’ve been upping my water alot too. Otherwise than that, I really haven’t been keeping track.

[quote]harryhoudini wrote:
Well, I’ve had to plan all of this around school, homework, chores, job, etc,… So it’s basically two lower body days and two upper body days, and maybe an extra workout which can be either strongman work that I can perform around my house or some sprints, etc,…

It goes much like this.

Monday- RE Upper

Tuesday- off

Wednesday- Lower Body

Thrursday-off

Friday-ME upper

Saturday- I don’t roll on Shabbas, but its’s okay after sundown, so… Lower Body

Sunday- Off

I’ve also been trying hard to keep the diet pretty good. Always 200-300 grams of protein (mostly because I love the taste of my shakes, and I have about 30 pounds of steak in the freezer). I’ve been upping my water alot too. Otherwise than that, I really haven’t been keeping track.[/quote]

I was thinking maybe next cycle you can put Deadlift variations first.

Wednesday - Romanian Deadlift
Saturday - Snatch-Grip Deadlift

I don’t recommend maxing out on those lifts. Keep the reps in the 3-6 rep range. You don’t decide which one you want to go heavier on, by the way you feel.

That’s good that you haven’t been keeping track of your diet. Sort of… It wouldn’t hurt to eat some fruits too. When your sick you can’t train. When you can’t train you get weaker. I’ll give you this quote.

In my experience, there’s actually an inverse relationship between the amount of time you spend counting calories and how strong you are. Seriously. The strongest people and most successful athletes are the ones who have learned to eat instinctively. It frees up more time to plan training and relax to aid in recovery. – Eric Cressey

Keep training hard. Your doing really good, especially for your age.

-Kev

[quote]Kevin Haywood wrote:

I was thinking maybe next cycle you can put Deadlift variations first.

Wednesday - Romanian Deadlift
Saturday - Snatch-Grip Deadlift

I don’t recommend maxing out on those lifts. Keep the reps in the 3-6 rep range. You don’t decide which one you want to go heavier on, by the way you feel.

That’s good that you haven’t been keeping track of your diet. Sort of… It wouldn’t hurt to eat some fruits too. When your sick you can’t train. When you can’t train you get weaker. I’ll give you this quote.

In my experience, there’s actually an inverse relationship between the amount of time you spend counting calories and how strong you are. Seriously. The strongest people and most successful athletes are the ones who have learned to eat instinctively. It frees up more time to plan training and relax to aid in recovery. – Eric Cressey

Keep training hard. Your doing really good, especially for your age.

-Kev[/quote]

Great suggestions and quote here nail that diet and ENOUGH get quality fruits etc man they are great for health and your working hard eat up.

What have your ME moves been?? If you are dong 2upper two lower your more west side then WS4SB but thats all good. With that though I would watch adding even more a strongman day Bro if yuo hitting that ME day HARD and the DE or RE day as it should man thats ENOUGH. if you want GPP strongman add then to the workout in place of oher things Keg lifting trie flipping etc they transfer well

If doign extra work make it light recovery stuff read up the first mistake most ppl do is TO juch you lifts decrese not from doing not enough work but going to far on west side (if doing the ME ALL OUT) or bad nutrition Jim wendler has written about this a lot.

Keep it up,
Phill

What I meant was that sometimes I’ll switch the lower body (usually the one earlier in the week) with a strongman workout.