hey thanks everybody for the help on my Q’s. more than expected.
i dont think im going to worry too much about conditioning for the first couple weeks. im mainly just going to focus on the lifts at first.
heres another crazy question tho. im currently lifting at home. i have everything i need except a cage or rack. im going to have to do front squats for now instead of backs becaus of this. the really bad part, is ill only be able to front squat what i can clean, which is about 195.
so basically i was thinking of 2 things that i kind of need some opinions on.
should i just replace the squats with cleans? so i can do them super heavy in the 5/3/1 range?
or should i do front squats in sets of higher reps so i can clean the weight up?
[quote]quiksilver6 wrote:
hey thanks everybody for the help on my Q’s. more than expected.
i dont think im going to worry too much about conditioning for the first couple weeks. im mainly just going to focus on the lifts at first.
heres another crazy question tho. im currently lifting at home. i have everything i need except a cage or rack. im going to have to do front squats for now instead of backs becaus of this. the really bad part, is ill only be able to front squat what i can clean, which is about 195.
so basically i was thinking of 2 things that i kind of need some opinions on.
should i just replace the squats with cleans? so i can do them super heavy in the 5/3/1 range?
or should i do front squats in sets of higher reps so i can clean the weight up?
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Can you rig up some squat stands using saw horses? You may have to start the lift from the bottom which is an added degree of difficulty … I think those are called Anderson squats, though not sure.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
quiksilver6 wrote:
hey thanks everybody for the help on my Q’s. more than expected.
i dont think im going to worry too much about conditioning for the first couple weeks. im mainly just going to focus on the lifts at first.
heres another crazy question tho. im currently lifting at home. i have everything i need except a cage or rack. im going to have to do front squats for now instead of backs becaus of this. the really bad part, is ill only be able to front squat what i can clean, which is about 195.
so basically i was thinking of 2 things that i kind of need some opinions on.
should i just replace the squats with cleans? so i can do them super heavy in the 5/3/1 range?
or should i do front squats in sets of higher reps so i can clean the weight up?
Can you rig up some squat stands using saw horses? You may have to start the lift from the bottom which is an added degree of difficulty … I think those are called Anderson squats, though not sure.[/quote]
ha, i mean i guess i could. that shits hard as hell tho haha. i might have to tho.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
dolarhyde wrote:
For the pullups is it OK to use different grip variations and widths for each set? Or should I keep it the same for the current session I am doing and then mix it up on the next upper body day.
Also once I can’t pull myself up to the bar anymore I have been jumping up to the bar and concentrating on the negative part of the pullup to get more reps in to 50. Is this a good idea?
both are just fine
I switch my pulls and chins all the time - changing grip, adding weight, going for reps … it’s all good in the end.[/quote]
Thanks Abides, I’ll add pullups to my bench press day and keep it on MP day as well to make sure I get up to that bar some how 100 times per week.
In the middle of finishing 50 reps of chins using rings. I haven’t done chins with my rings for a while. I can only do 5 per set compared with 8 per set using a bar. Going to be tough to get 100 of these during two workouts (MP and bench).
[quote]jsdool wrote:
In the middle of finishing 50 reps of chins using rings. I haven’t done chins with my rings for a while. I can only do 5 per set compared with 8 per set using a bar. Going to be tough to get 100 of these during two workouts (MP and bench).[/quote]
I think Jim once said on elitefts that it would help to do a few of them in between your bench sets and military press sets. That way it’ll be easier to get your 100 per week.
Hey all, just started 5/3/1 on Saturday. After two and a half years of pissing around I’m ready to make some real progress in strength/size. I think I’m gonna do some sledgehammer conditioning after my upper body days; anybody tried this?
[quote]quiksilver6 wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
quiksilver6 wrote:
hey thanks everybody for the help on my Q’s. more than expected.
i dont think im going to worry too much about conditioning for the first couple weeks. im mainly just going to focus on the lifts at first.
heres another crazy question tho. im currently lifting at home. i have everything i need except a cage or rack. im going to have to do front squats for now instead of backs becaus of this. the really bad part, is ill only be able to front squat what i can clean, which is about 195.
so basically i was thinking of 2 things that i kind of need some opinions on.
should i just replace the squats with cleans? so i can do them super heavy in the 5/3/1 range?
or should i do front squats in sets of higher reps so i can clean the weight up?
Can you rig up some squat stands using saw horses? You may have to start the lift from the bottom which is an added degree of difficulty … I think those are called Anderson squats, though not sure.
ha, i mean i guess i could. that shits hard as hell tho haha. i might have to tho.[/quote]
[quote]sfajohn wrote:
quiksilver6 wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
quiksilver6 wrote:
hey thanks everybody for the help on my Q’s. more than expected.
i dont think im going to worry too much about conditioning for the first couple weeks. im mainly just going to focus on the lifts at first.
heres another crazy question tho. im currently lifting at home. i have everything i need except a cage or rack. im going to have to do front squats for now instead of backs becaus of this. the really bad part, is ill only be able to front squat what i can clean, which is about 195.
so basically i was thinking of 2 things that i kind of need some opinions on.
should i just replace the squats with cleans? so i can do them super heavy in the 5/3/1 range?
or should i do front squats in sets of higher reps so i can clean the weight up?
Can you rig up some squat stands using saw horses? You may have to start the lift from the bottom which is an added degree of difficulty … I think those are called Anderson squats, though not sure.
ha, i mean i guess i could. that shits hard as hell tho haha. i might have to tho.
yeah, just do like this guy did…
yeah, thats how its gonna have to be. i just dont have anything to come back down on if i cant complete the rep. and im not gonna ditch the bar on the garage floor. front squats are a little easier to ditch anyways. we’ll see what happens
[quote]quiksilver6 wrote:
yeah, thats how its gonna have to be. i just dont have anything to come back down on if i cant complete the rep. and im not gonna ditch the bar on the garage floor. front squats are a little easier to ditch anyways. we’ll see what happens
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Here is one option, but it all depends on what your training focus is. If you squat to parallel for your main reps and set the horses at a height for ATG, then you could just do a full squat to start the first rep and do the rest to parallel in place, and to set down (with another full squat) at the end. If at the bottom of a parallel squat you cannot finish a rep, you just set it down by sinking ATG.
[quote]BJack wrote:
Hey all, just started 5/3/1 on Saturday. After two and a half years of pissing around I’m ready to make some real progress in strength/size. I think I’m gonna do some sledgehammer conditioning after my upper body days; anybody tried this?[/quote]
I am going to try that also. When weather is good sledge hammer swings, when weather is bad heavy bag. On lower body days it will be sled push/pulls or some indoor cycling on bad weather days.
[quote]revchad wrote:
quiksilver6 wrote:
yeah, thats how its gonna have to be. i just dont have anything to come back down on if i cant complete the rep. and im not gonna ditch the bar on the garage floor. front squats are a little easier to ditch anyways. we’ll see what happens
Here is one option, but it all depends on what your training focus is. If you squat to parallel for your main reps and set the horses at a height for ATG, then you could just do a full squat to start the first rep and do the rest to parallel in place, and to set down (with another full squat) at the end. If at the bottom of a parallel squat you cannot finish a rep, you just set it down by sinking ATG.[/quote]
thats what i was thinking. thats my only option for now.
[quote]HUNTER13 wrote:
BJack wrote:
Hey all, just started 5/3/1 on Saturday. After two and a half years of pissing around I’m ready to make some real progress in strength/size. I think I’m gonna do some sledgehammer conditioning after my upper body days; anybody tried this?
I am going to try that also. When weather is good sledge hammer swings, when weather is bad heavy bag. On lower body days it will be sled push/pulls or some indoor cycling on bad weather days.[/quote]
That sounds like a good idea. I’m sure standing out in the rain, beating on a tire probably isn’t great for your health.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
dolarhyde wrote:
For the pullups is it OK to use different grip variations and widths for each set? Or should I keep it the same for the current session I am doing and then mix it up on the next upper body day.
Also once I can’t pull myself up to the bar anymore I have been jumping up to the bar and concentrating on the negative part of the pullup to get more reps in to 50. Is this a good idea?
both are just fine
I switch my pulls and chins all the time - changing grip, adding weight, going for reps … it’s all good in the end.[/quote]
[quote]Airness wrote:
jsdool wrote:
In the middle of finishing 50 reps of chins using rings. I haven’t done chins with my rings for a while. I can only do 5 per set compared with 8 per set using a bar. Going to be tough to get 100 of these during two workouts (MP and bench).
I think Jim once said on elitefts that it would help to do a few of them in between your bench sets and military press sets. That way it’ll be easier to get your 100 per week.
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Much, much easier - I’ve been doing this for about 12-15 years. Efficient and simple.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I like to make my wife do power cleans because they make her boobs shake, and watching boob flesh jiggle is really, really awesome. So that is how I judge power clean form. If there are titties shaking, good. No titties shaking, bad.
Sorry Jim, but your form is seriously lacking in the titty shaking department.[/quote]
[quote]jsdool wrote:
I started aiming for 100 chins per week this cycle but only managed 40 this week. I’ll try to hit 100 next week. Most I had ever done in the past in one day was 4 sets of 5 but those were weighted. I’m doing sets with 6-8 reps now so I only need to get about 8 sets on MP day and 8 sets on bench day. Like BlakedaMan, I will aim to decrease the number of sets needed to hit 100 and eventually start adding weight.[/quote]
100 is a goal - 40 is where you are at.
Shoot for 45 the next couple of weeks.
Then 50 for another 4 weeks or so.
