Can someone please explain why weed is banned in the USAPL? If they find weed traces in your system, you fail the drug test. This seems like a bunch of bullshit.
Because it is an illegal drug
[quote]AllerCuzine wrote:
Because it is an illegal drug [/quote]
Pretty much sums it up.
So? It is not a performance enhancer.
Weed doesn’t stay in the system that long anyways.
Its on the IOC banned list (and the WDFPA list).
It’s not a weightlifting performance enhancer, but it could, conceivably, enhance performance of other sports e.g where calmness / relaxation is an advantage.
Under WADA it’s only banned “in competition”. Of course, it tends to linger for a while so you can still fail for taking it out of competition. That’s just a downside of the way they test though.
You can understand from a safety viewpoint they don’t want the risk, and also it can improve performance if you are in a huge amount of pain and it minimises the pain felt.
That said, it’s a part of the sport and if you don’t want to risk it, don’t compete when you’ve smoked recently. Correct me if I’m mistaken, but under the WADA code you can’t fail an out of competition test for marijuana.
[quote]Gael wrote:
So? It is not a performance enhancer.[/quote]
Almost every single sport that drug tests, be it Olympics, IWF, the NFL, Boxing, Mixed Marital Arts, etc has marijuana on it’s banned substance list. You’ll probably get about a 100 different answers as to why, and the only thing that matters in the end is that it isn’t going to change as long as pot is an illegal drug.
[quote]Gael wrote:
So? It is not a performance enhancer.[/quote]
Is it okay to steal a car because that doesn’t enhance your performance?
[quote]Eielson wrote:
Gael wrote:
So? It is not a performance enhancer.
Is it okay to steal a car because that doesn’t enhance your performance?[/quote]
Who cares, the IOC does not test for slide-hammers. I always thought testing for non-AAS substances was a bit excessive. The advantage afforded by real anabolics is slim enough. When you start talking about the performance enhancements from shit like Ritalin, Albuterol, or ummm… high-grade BC bud, I think you are really splitting hairs.
But I think you just have to chalk it up to overall character of the USAPL. They are just really particular about these things and, from what I have heard, the membership is largely supportive of these tests. Those that compete at a high level inside that fed must be careful about these things.
A great day on the platform may be totally wiped off the books by a bad day at the lab. The good news is that there are many opportunities to compete outside the USAPL should you choose to be judged solely on your lifts and not on your urine as well.
[quote]Pinto wrote:
I always thought testing for non-AAS substances was a bit excessive. The advantage afforded by real anabolics is slim enough. When you start talking about the performance enhancements from shit like Ritalin, Albuterol, or ummm… high-grade BC bud, I think you are really splitting hairs.
But I think you just have to chalk it up to overall character of the USAPL. They are just really particular about these things and, from what I have heard, the membership is largely supportive of these tests. Those that compete at a high level inside that fed must be careful about these things.
A great day on the platform may be totally wiped off the books by a bad day at the lab. The good news is that there are many opportunities to compete outside the USAPL should you choose to be judged solely on your lifts and not on your urine as well.
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Lol. Whatever dude. It’s the character of WADA and the IOC. USAPL’s affiliation through the IPF means they have to comply with all their crazy rules, just as dozens of other sports that have links to the IOC or aspire to be included in the IOC. You take the bad with the good sometimes. I really wouldn’t read anything more into than that. Plus, unless you’re getting lit up the night before a meet, weed really isn’t anything a lifter needs to worry about come pissy cup time.
[quote]smokotime wrote:
Under WADA it’s only banned “in competition”. Of course, it tends to linger for a while so you can still fail for taking it out of competition. That’s just a downside of the way they test though.
You can understand from a safety viewpoint they don’t want the risk, and also it can improve performance if you are in a huge amount of pain and it minimises the pain felt.
That said, it’s a part of the sport and if you don’t want to risk it, don’t compete when you’ve smoked recently. Correct me if I’m mistaken, but under the WADA code you can’t fail an out of competition test for marijuana.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure ephedrine was removed from the OMT tests too…
[quote]Hanley wrote:
smokotime wrote:
Under WADA it’s only banned “in competition”. Of course, it tends to linger for a while so you can still fail for taking it out of competition. That’s just a downside of the way they test though.
You can understand from a safety viewpoint they don’t want the risk, and also it can improve performance if you are in a huge amount of pain and it minimises the pain felt.
That said, it’s a part of the sport and if you don’t want to risk it, don’t compete when you’ve smoked recently. Correct me if I’m mistaken, but under the WADA code you can’t fail an out of competition test for marijuana.
I’m pretty sure ephedrine was removed from the OMT tests too…[/quote]
Ephedrine was removed from OMT and pseudophedrine was removed from all testing.
[quote]robo1 wrote:
Lol. Whatever dude. It’s the character of WADA and the IOC. USAPL’s affiliation through the IPF means they have to comply with all their crazy rules, just as dozens of other sports that have links to the IOC or aspire to be included in the IOC. You take the bad with the good sometimes.
I really wouldn’t read anything more into than that. Plus, unless you’re getting lit up the night before a meet, weed really isn’t anything a lifter needs to worry about come pissy cup time.[/quote]
True enough. However, the IPF is not bound to follow the whimsies of the IOC and WADA. It chooses to do so. The same goes for USAPL with its relationship with IPF.
My comments are not intended to be a jab at the USAPL, the IPF, or their lifters. These guys got enough to deal with without having some shit-talking APF lifter telling them their fed’s rules are stupid.
My point is simply that the IPF/USAPL has stricter rules than other PLing feds and if one does not care for his urine chemistry to be a matter of contention, there are other places to lift.
Also, If you think marijuana metabolites clear a urine sample in a day or so, you are mistaken. Cannabinoids are unique among recreational drugs in that subjects routinely test positive a month or more after last useage.
I learned this lesson the hard way about 18 years ago when my juvenile probation was yanked due to failing a test after last smoking weed almost two weeks before the test. Had I gotten drunk, ate some rolls, or even shot heroin two weeks before my test instead smoking pot, I would not have enjoyed a 4 month stint at one of the peach state’s finest JD facilities.
[quote]Pinto wrote:
My point is simply that the IPF/USAPL has stricter rules than other PLing feds and if one does not care for his urine chemistry to be a matter of contention, there are other places to lift. [/quote]
Well I agree with you fully on that point. USAPL/IPF is what it is. and you’re right, many people lift there because they support drug testing. In fact I wish the drug testing in usapl was even stricter. Also, most of what’s on the wada banned list is there for a reason, it’s not arbitrary.
I also cant help but think they ban the drug to prevent anyone from smoking the day of the meet to maybe numb the pain or something like that and then going on the platform and do some stupid shit and hurting themselves or the spotters. If you cant go a couple weeks with out a smoke man then you go a problem or you could just buy one of the test clean mixs thatare on the market.