Boomer? You’re quite a few decades off my friend
I’d understand it happened decades ago when times were different, female empowerment/rights weren’t as valued… but this is 2020, behavior like this should be… no… NEEDS to be phased out
Do you have any original thoughts or ideas beyond what the media has spoon fed you? Your comments are pure cringe my friend.
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What behavior are we referring too?
Idk wtf @unreal24278 & @charlie12 are talking about with this blow jobs are expected on the first date and shit talk.
We guys are just trying to fuck these girls to sleep as soon as possible.
Plus, girls REALLY want to get fucked. As long as you’re a chill dude who is cool with your sexuality and doesn’t view it as this grandiose thing, just a normal human thing that both men and women want, shits not a big deal.
Loosen up. Girls want to enjoy life too.
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Blow jobs. He wants to get rid of blow jobs.
Or the expectation of first date blow jobs when in high school
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Lmao I agree. As a man you should push for fucking on the first date, best way to confirm if she’s actually a slut or not. Girls do want to be dominated but the quality ones will push for commitment first. Sex vs. commitment. A guy that gives out his commitment asap is basically a slut.
The notion of thinking a girl is obliged to give you a BJ on a first date
If she wants to… that’s fine, but it shouldn’t be forced, that’s unethical
Where are you getting this shit from? Some do, some legitimately don’t, pulling this ideology for all girls across the board showcases toxic engrained ideology… Sex is normal, but it shouldn’t be pressured or forced. Anyone who thinks “well let’s pressure the chick into this because I deserve my BJ” on the first date… or ever… isn’t morally sound
Not at all, if the girl is fine with it… go ahead
But if a blowjob is a prerequisite (which it isn’t/shouldn’t be) then performing cunninglingus should also be a prerequisite…
Most certainly isn’t, a single woman (just like a man) can have as much sex as they see fit… I find it irritating you believe men can try have sex on the first date, if the woman reciprocated, she’s a slut… what about the man?
These are societal double standards that need to be phased out
Once again, this is a generalisation and certainly doesn’t always stem true… how much tren are you taking… I don’t usually hear guys talk like this unless they’re on heavy cycles and/or spend wayyyy too much time watching internet pornography
Regardless, we can agree to disagree here… Arguing will just prove to irritate us all. That being said if you wish to engage in an intellectual debate absent of cheap insults, name calling or attempted character defamation im more than happy to participate, perhaps you’ll even change my current ideology!
You see… I don’t even understand this insult… you’ve made the golem reference with me a few times but I’ve never seen lord of the rings… I saw one of those hobbit movies
If you seriously think women have the obligation to blow a guy on the first date regardless of what they’re comfortable doing… to me, that’s horrible
I think we need to call a truce, I find you extremely annoying and I legitimately don’t think you’re a nice person. As a matter of fact to me you seem like a bully who likes to target those he sees vulnerable. You see me as a narcissistic serial killer who thinks he’s someone he isn’t despite the fact that I frequently state I’m no expert/medical professional. You continue to attack me as you know it irritates me, it gets a reaction out of me… and it does…
I’m aware everyone has their own story, so you may very well not be the person my mind has set you up to be, especially given that an online facade eliminates the notion of body language, tone of voice etc
How about we just stop acknowledging each other’s posts? I think that’s for the best
The more I think about this… the dumber I think it is to be arguing with you… we have vastly differing ideologies regarding ethics, morality and probably politics, what’s the point of these verbal pissing matches? Neither one of us will convince the other party they’re right/wrong, so why bother?
I never said that tho 
I posted the Gollum/Smeagol because of your long-winded post that was enough common sense to be stated in a single sentence. It’s almost like you’re arguing with yourself.
firstly, get the notion out of your head that anybody here is talking about forcing a girl to give any kind of sexual gratification to us. That’s harassment and rape territory, nobody here wants to inflict that on a woman.
Secondly youre young so understand this. Girls REALLY, REALLY, want to get fucked. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you’ll have a great sex life. Girls are hornier than guys but must hide it because the vast majority of guys can’t handle it and are insecure. They think a girl is a “slut” for exploring her sexuality. Girls are looking for guys who are good obviously, but are comfortable and non judgmental when it comes to sex. When both parties understand that sex is wonderful and that each other wants it, it’ll happen with ease. Thats of course should the interests be mutual.
You can prime all chivalrous and proper all you like, it won’t turn her on. Those traits are great in addition to a man with comfortable sexual energy, but that in itself won’t get you laid.
So like i said, learn to loosen up. Don’t be the guy to take a girl out on the first date, have a good time and when she invites you inside, reject because you don’t want to “treat her like a slut”. She’ll just end up sexually frustrated and call another guy to bang her brains out that “gets it” so to speak.
As somebody who struggled with girls mightily in my early years and had to do pick up in order to improve my skills, i had my whole world open up before me.
Its been awhile since i’ve gamed obviously because of this libido shit, but my last girl i picked up is currently studying to become a doctor is will find out her residency spot soon. She’s one of the kinkiest girls ive ever met period.
So once again @unreal24278 loosen up.
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Agreed (sort of)… I misinterpreted you’re initial response. Initially I thought you were preaching some incel style ideology. I fully agree with the notion of “if a girl invites you in or expresses interest regarding sexual relations on the first date, then it’s acceptable”.
What I was preaching against was having an engrained ideology of “I DESERVE a blowjob” on the first date, as that shouldn’t be an expectation/prerequisite for a date. If it happens, wonderful… if it doesn’t, don’t pressure/sulk about it. I think this is what Charlie12 was referring too as well
I also agree that due to unfair societal stigmatisation and misplaced beliefs some women unfortunately can’t be as open with their sexuality as they’d otherwise like to be. I don’t think a woman should be labelled a slut for promiscuity if a man can go around doing the exact same thing free of repercussion. In terms of sex/sexuality, I tend not to judge so long as you’re actions don’t harm others (consensual BDSM/roleplay doesn’t count)
Lol you sound like a child. Men and women are not equal, there are double standards because natural strengths differ. With that said women know men want sex so a lot of them (probably most) use sex or sexual appeal to get ahead in some fashion. It’s only those women who do not use sex to get ahead which I respect. They’re the ones who didn’t take the easy option to achieve success and I think they deserve the most recognition.
Exceptions to the rule do not dismiss the rule. Look at the female anatomy, they literally were made to be fucked. Women don’t want to be raped but it’s the most common fantasy. If it’s with the right person and right circumstance, they want to be dominated.
Btw I recommend cutting back on the CNN and Stephen Colbert, too much brainwashing, it’s obvious bro.
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Also one sexual encounter, which there is absolutely nothing wrong with but you habe a lot to learn young horny one.
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The only regret that haunts me to this day was being too “awe geez awe shucks” to sleep with the list of beautiful girls who were throwing it at me in HS. I was a wrestler and had a physique-competition body year round, with a deep tan from lifeguarding in the summers. But I was also raised to be “responsible” and “a nice guy.”
Natural strengths do differ, doesn’t relate to the fact that you believe women should be stigmatised because they have a lot of sex… this is an opinion that doesn’t make me childish, if anything it’s a somewhat progressive belief to have.
That being said, we can both harbour differing ideology, there’s no harm there… so let’s agree to disagree and drop this arguement, it’s a stupid arguement to be having.
You’re free to believe this, doesn’t mean that I’m obliged to agree. You can call me a child (which isn’t really an insult… because I am) but the fact that you’re older than I am won’t change my ideology.
As to rape fantasies, we all fantasise about a lot of things, I’m aware of rape fantasies being common (have read the literature). But… there’s a big difference between fantasy and reality. The reality of rape is that it’s a traumatic, unforgivable act that irreparably alters the psyche of many whom it’s inflicted upon
Also I don’t watch CNN, unless it’s an article bashing Donald Trump because I personally (no judgement on anyone else’s part) don’t like him
what a fucking thread!
I clearly need to spend more time reading in the T Replacement section, y’all so weird!
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Well… it was a strange thread to begin with… why not make it even weirder with a COMPETE derailing from the initial topic of pre ejaculatory fluid
I’m not weighing in either way, but you should be aware that the number of premarital sex partners a woman has is highly correlated to divorce rate.
" For women marrying since the start of the new millennium:
- Women with 10 or more partners were the most likely to divorce, but this only became true in recent years;
- Women with 3-9 partners were less likely to divorce than women with 2 partners; and,
- Women with 0-1 partners were the least likely to divorce."
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