Vid of Ex-NFL Pro Doing an Insane Circuit

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

I feel sorry for the guy in the video. He prob has a good amount of power and strength and it’s wasted on workouts created by skinny guys.

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Don’t jump to conclusion. Because I want to share a video of my boy killing a circuit, doesn’t mean I’m promoting my services. Take it how you want. And if your classification of 205 pounds at 4.5% body fat is skinny. Your ass must be fat!

Yeah squats down to a bucket. What should a 6’2" guy squat down to? When you just watch videos and don’t know how to systematically create one, it’s easy to talk shit. Try the workout yourself or come up with something better. I’m always open for other ideas, but criticism of something you’ve never tried or can’t do is just cowardliness from my perspective.

that 275 challenge seemed kinda cool but his score was kinda weak… DLing 275 for 10 rep? (2 of those chin ups were legit lol) Come on son! haha

I wouldnt mind getting another challenge thread together… If we had enough people interested we should get one going for that!

I don’t understand all the hate on this thread. Seemed like a good conditioning workout. I think this is the conditioning forum… what am I missing.

agree with gambit. it’s like 90 percent of T-Nation posters want to criticize the fuck out of anything that deviates from whatever they’re doing. The ‘it’s not sport specific’ argument is complete crap. Like OP said, only sports are sport-specific. and LOL at the idea that only circuits with heavier weights (like the 275 thing) are worthwhile. This circuit looks hard as fuck for anybody. 50 pull ups are taxing whether you’ve done anything before it or not, and especially at 240 pounds bodyweight. And I would venture to say that the guy in the video would laugh at Rhino and Cyco for saying a circuit like this is valueless.

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

I feel sorry for the guy in the video. He prob has a good amount of power and strength and it’s wasted on workouts created by skinny guys.

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Don’t jump to conclusion. Because I want to share a video of my boy killing a circuit, doesn’t mean I’m promoting my services. Take it how you want. And if your classification of 205 pounds at 4.5% body fat is skinny. Your ass must be fat!

Yeah squats down to a bucket. What should a 6’2" guy squat down to? When you just watch videos and don’t know how to systematically create one, it’s easy to talk shit. Try the workout yourself or come up with something better. I’m always open for other ideas, but criticism of something you’ve never tried or can’t do is just cowardliness from my perspective.[/quote]

Hey Bryan!

  1. I doubt you maintain 4.5% year round and exactly how tall are you? Over 6 feet? That’s called small in this neck of the woods.

  2. I have multiple certifications and have been training for over 6 years so I think I may have an idea on how to put together workouts.

  3. I DID offer a suggestion if you watch the fucking video I posted.

  4. Stop making assumptions about things I have and have not done since you obviously do not know me and I know you. :wink:

  5. Tell Billy that his “Medical Grade Protein” is one of the funniest scams he has got going on!

Good luck!

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
And I would venture to say that the guy in the video would laugh at Rhino and Cyco for saying a circuit like this is valueless.[/quote]

There are a lot better ways to elevate your heart rate for the sake of “conditioning”. I never said the 275 workout was the only way dumbass.

And the reason this type of shit is annoying is the blatant marketing you guys seem to be overlooking. The guy is posting videos from his own Youtube channel to boost their views and draw attention to himself.

OP just went about it the wrong way. This isn’t his first post like this.

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

And the reason this type of shit is annoying is the blatant marketing you guys seem to be overlooking. The guy is posting videos from his own Youtube channel to boost their views and draw attention to himself.

OP just went about it the wrong way. This isn’t his first post like this.[/quote]

Fair enough, I don’t recall ever noticing the OP before, but if he’s got a history of posting ONLY to self-market… yeah, that’s kinda shitty. That said, I don’t mind self-marketing by “real” members here.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

And the reason this type of shit is annoying is the blatant marketing you guys seem to be overlooking. The guy is posting videos from his own Youtube channel to boost their views and draw attention to himself.

OP just went about it the wrong way. This isn’t his first post like this.[/quote]

Fair enough, I don’t recall ever noticing the OP before, but if he’s got a history of posting ONLY to self-market… yeah, that’s kinda shitty. That said, I don’t mind self-marketing by “real” members here. [/quote]

Exactly. I can’t respect people that come on here, post their marketing and then trash talk everyone on the forum that doesn’t like their videos. This shit happened over in the Powerful Women forum too.

bfrancis meet dan. i have a feeling you guys might get along.

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
And I would venture to say that the guy in the video would laugh at Rhino and Cyco for saying a circuit like this is valueless.[/quote]

And the reason this type of shit is annoying is the blatant marketing you guys seem to be overlooking. The guy is posting videos from his own Youtube channel to boost their views and draw attention to himself.

OP just went about it the wrong way. This isn’t his first post like this.

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You talk all this shit, but you don’t know anything about me. If you believe everything you find on the internet, you just show your true ignorance. Are you really that offended that I post a video from my youtube channel? I don’t make money off of youtube. So you’re telling me, the only people that you think should be allowed to post videos on here is those individuals that don’t have a youtube channel? Don’t assume that you know what you’re talking about.

You’ve already stated how uneducated you are when it comes to both training and supplementation. You’re lack of intelligence in regards to medical grade ingredients versus commercial grade ingredients, shows you really don’t know shit. Try spending some time reading some actual research and not internet articles and forums, then we’ll talk about what’s a scam and what isn’t.

FYI I’m 6’ tall and never go over 7% body fat. So in comparison to you, I’m shredded and you’re fat…and I don’t care what neck of the woods we’re talking about. If you’re a male over 12% body fat, you’re fat! That’s not just my opinion, but the opinion of many of the top strength coaches in the world.

And if you say you have 6 years of training experience, you’d understand the circuit. Actually I take that back, because I’ve personally been around numerous people with much more experience than you, that still can’t construct a scientifically based program.

Again, all videos I post are to showcase my close friends and the hard work they put forth. I don’t make money from any of this, so before you make assumptions, get your facts straight. I love hearing others people opinions on what gets posted, and the only time I’m going to respond is when facts need to be set straight.

[quote]alexus wrote:

bfrancis meet dan. i have a feeling you guys might get along.[/quote]

Your assumptions are so entertaining to me. Its a very simple fix. If you don’t like what I post…DON’T READ IT OR WATCH IT! Thanks for responding though, I’m flattered :slight_smile:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I don’t understand all the hate on this thread. Seemed like a good conditioning workout. I think this is the conditioning forum… what am I missing.

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@Gambit_Lost, all the hate comes form people seeing things that go outside of their conventional training and what they’ve never attempted to do themselves. This whole “Self-marketing” thing is complete bullshit. People are gonna hate on the video right from the start if it’s something that don’t agree with. It’s the single minded individuals that lack the greatest results and that’s fine with me. I believe that almost every style of training can be beneficial at some point if you know how to utilize it correctly.

You’re right, this was the conditioning forum and that’s why it got posted here. The other vids were of my close friend Sarah (a female) and that’s why they got posted on the “Powerful Women” forum. The videos are meant to be shared and that’s it. But it sounds like you understand that, so thank you!

k folks… Y are there so many people hating and so few congratulating?? Look, “the punisher” was hard as shit to do… K my form wasnt great on all the reps(it is what its is), id take my hat off to the beast that could. Brian i guess we are gonna have to do something really crazy that above average athlete cant do to impress the critics?? Until next vids… Thanks for the comments good or bad. Video coming again in the next couple weeks.
Haters are motivators!

“7 dayts w/o a workout makes 1 weak”

T-Nation!

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:
You talk all this shit, but you don’t know anything about me. If you believe everything you find on the internet, you just show your true ignorance. [/quote]

When did I ever say that everything on the internet is true? Did you just pull that out of your ass?

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:
Are you really that offended that I post a video from my youtube channel? I don’t make money off of youtube. So you’re telling me, the only people that you think should be allowed to post videos on here is those individuals that don’t have a youtube channel? Don’t assume that you know what you’re talking about.[/quote]

I don’t give two shits about you posting your youtube videos if you would have came on here and stated something like:

"Hey guys, check out my boy doing a crazy conditioning workout we were testing out the other day! What do you guys think?

Instead, you posted the video as if it had no connection to you whatsoever. This type of posting on message boards is known as SPAM. Whether or not you intended it to be that way, that’s how it showed up which is why your videos are garnishing so much “hate”.

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:
FYI I’m 6’ tall and never go over 7% body fat. So in comparison to you, I’m shredded and you’re fat…and I don’t care what neck of the woods we’re talking about. If you’re a male over 12% body fat, you’re fat! That’s not just my opinion, but the opinion of many of the top strength coaches in the world. [/quote]

How do you know if I am “fat” by your standards LMAO! What if I am 12.19191827%? Does that make me a lard ass? Do I need to hold a shoe so you can get an accurate reading? If you stay under 7% body fat all the time, I can only imagine you must be weak as shit. So I don’t think most strength coaches would find that favorable.

Do you check that shit every week just to make sure you haven’t wandered into fat land? TBH, I could care less about what numbers say. Numbers don’t mean jack shit if you don’t like what you see in the mirror. But I like how you keep changing yours. First it was 4.5 and now its 7, whats it gonna be next?

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:
And if you say you have 6 years of training experience, you’d understand the circuit. Actually I take that back, because I’ve personally been around numerous people with much more experience than you, that still can’t construct a scientifically based program.[/quote]

You are absolutely right…what is a circuit bro?

Look, I know you are used to everyone at your facility and on your blog kissing your dick about how “good” your workouts are because they seem hard. But you might as well understand that everything posted at T-Nation is taken with a grain of salt. We are not blind sheep like the people that come into BB3. And before you have a hissy fit about that comment, I know not EVERYONE is like that but a lot of them are. Especially the ones from “Bubble World” aka Weston.

[quote]pheenomm05 wrote:
k folks… Y are there so many people hating and so few congratulating?? Look, “the punisher” was hard as shit to do… K my form wasnt great on all the reps(it is what its is), id take my hat off to the beast that could. Brian i guess we are gonna have to do something really crazy that above average athlete cant do to impress the critics?? Until next vids… Thanks for the comments good or bad. Video coming again in the next couple weeks.
Haters are motivators! [/quote]

Kurt, just to clear some things up, I am not hating your performance or technique. I’m sure you have done your fair share of snatches, cleans, squats, jerks, etc in the weight room and could come up with a conditioning circuit (with weights) that would be more interesting/entertaining to watch than this Crossfit rip-off workout that Bryan came up with.

I would actually like to see some of your football conditioning workouts such as sprint drills, etc.

Crossfit is only good if your goal is to be mediocre in many aspects of “fitness” instead of proficient in one.

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:
You’ve already stated how uneducated you are when it comes to both training and supplementation. You’re lack of intelligence in regards to medical grade ingredients versus commercial grade ingredients, shows you really don’t know shit. Try spending some time reading some actual research and not internet articles and forums, then we’ll talk about what’s a scam and what isn’t. [/quote]

So where do they source this “medical grade protein” from? Medical grade cows? LOL. Also, if I recall the main source is whey concentrate…that sounds like an excellent formula man.

i sorta agree with rhino on this one. i think the issue here is more than just the sloppy form and execution of the exercises. i think circuits like this are fine for the average person who is trying to condition himself or lose weight without a specific goal in mind but basic fitness. (ala crossfit guys) however, seeing that this guy was a prof athlete, i believe he should know better with regards to his training.

focusing on conditioning exercises that would improve his athletic ability like sprints, sled pulls/push etc. would probably be more beneficial and honestly would probably be more fun then just a bunch of exercises that are done for tons of reps just to get him tired.

he played in the NFL so i dont think anyone doubts that he is super athletic and strong so why not take advantage of this attributes and train him to develop this athletic ability.

@rhino - love that video man. Joe D is the greatest!!! i think i would be dead before i see joe D put brian cushin through a ciruit like that lol!

pheenomm05 and bfrancis80, It looks like people think you are just spamming. If you spend a little time in the forums those complaints should go away quickly. T-Nation is a fun site, or it can be. Lately there has been a lot of shit talking, but honestly, that comes and goes on most sites. Personally, I hope you both stick around and enjoy the place. This site used to go by “the bodybuilder’s thinktank” and I like having different opinions and athletes around. Enjoy and post a little more and I’m sure that (these spamming) criticisms will go away. Eh, my 2 cents.

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

[quote]bfrancis80 wrote:
You’ve already stated how uneducated you are when it comes to both training and supplementation. You’re lack of intelligence in regards to medical grade ingredients versus commercial grade ingredients, shows you really don’t know shit. Try spending some time reading some actual research and not internet articles and forums, then we’ll talk about what’s a scam and what isn’t. [/quote]

So where do they source this “medical grade protein” from? Medical grade cows? LOL. Also, if I recall the main source is whey concentrate…that sounds like an excellent formula man.
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@Rhino Jockey, As much as I’d like to spend my time sitting on T-Nation educating you, take the initiative yourself and do some credible research and come back to me when you know the difference. If you knew anything about “this neck of the woods”, you’d know how many professional athletes live in the area…so again, stop talking about shit you don’t really know about. And it sucks when people are lean & strong right, because it puts your myth of “skinny” people having no strength.

And I don’t need to be told how to title a thread. If you take it as spam or it looks shady, my apologies. But I’m not on here to spend time talking shit and debating who’s right and who’s wrong.

I KNOW there’s a time and a place for most training styles. I’ll be sure to explain myself more with the next vids that I post and always look forward to all comments. Look forward to talking with you in future.

[quote]halamadrid09 wrote:
i sorta agree with rhino on this one. i think the issue here is more than just the sloppy form and execution of the exercises. i think circuits like this are fine for the average person who is trying to condition himself or lose weight without a specific goal in mind but basic fitness. (ala crossfit guys) however, seeing that this guy was a prof athlete, i believe he should know better with regards to his training.

focusing on conditioning exercises that would improve his athletic ability like sprints, sled pulls/push etc. would probably be more beneficial and honestly would probably be more fun then just a bunch of exercises that are done for tons of reps just to get him tired.

he played in the NFL so i dont think anyone doubts that he is super athletic and strong so why not take advantage of this attributes and train him to develop this athletic ability.

@rhino - love that video man. Joe D is the greatest!!! i think i would be dead before i see joe D put brian cushin through a ciruit like that lol![/quote]

Read some of the earlier responses and you’ll know that his training consists of everything you’ve already stated. I’m not a crossfit groupie, but I definitely know that some of the principles have a time and place to be implemented into a program. BTW, Brian Cushing is a great person to reference (sarcasm), and I really am a USC & Brian Cushing fan!

@ bfrancis80 and pheenomm05 Dudes don’t worry with these guys. Haters are going to hate. Plain and simple. That would be an amazing conditioning circuit to get any athlete in shape. MMA guys do stuff like that all the time and so do other athletes. Conditioning is just that: CONDITIONING… people who don’t know better should just… you know :stuck_out_tongue:

I wouldn’t waste time defending it…cause well there isn’t anything to defend. I’m going to go ahead and say theres a shit ton of people on this site who couldn’t hang with that workout, myself probably included…although it won’t stop me from trying it one day.