[quote]gregron wrote:
Wait so what does that make Kai? A bodybuilder or an artist? (mind bottling) lol [/quote]
Mind-bottling mmm… Is that like when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle?
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
“Aspiring” means to desire to achieve a higher level. He’s been painting the same way for over 15 years. He has no aspirations, other than to paint. He’s an artist.
“Aspiring artist” sounds so… noob-like. Art school students are aspiring artists.
Kai is a bodybuilder AND an artist. [/quote]
I fingerpaint in my spare time. artist?[/quote]
Are you as good as Kai?
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
“Aspiring” means to desire to achieve a higher level. He’s been painting the same way for over 15 years. He has no aspirations, other than to paint. He’s an artist.
“Aspiring artist” sounds so… noob-like. Art school students are aspiring artists.
Kai is a bodybuilder AND an artist. [/quote]
I fingerpaint in my spare time. artist?[/quote]
Are you as good as Kai?
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I think so.
Amazing
thanks bro.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
“Aspiring” means to desire to achieve a higher level. He’s been painting the same way for over 15 years. He has no aspirations, other than to paint. He’s an artist.
“Aspiring artist” sounds so… noob-like. Art school students are aspiring artists.
Kai is a bodybuilder AND an artist. [/quote]
I fingerpaint in my spare time. artist?[/quote]
Are you as good as Kai?
[/quote]
so you have to be good at something for that to be considered what you are?
Then is Obama still considered The President?
BOOM! Game, Set, Match! And the Crowd Goes Wild! Checkmate! Down Goes Frazier! GOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL!!!
LOL
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
No one said that to be a bodybuilder you had to make a living from bodybuilding. No one said you had to make it a career to be one. If you paint, you’re a painter, if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
No one said that to be a bodybuilder you had to make a living from bodybuilding. No one said you had to make it a career to be one. If you paint, you’re a painter, if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.
[/quote]
…if you fuck a dog then youre a dogfucker
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
No one said that to be a bodybuilder you had to make a living from bodybuilding. No one said you had to make it a career to be one. If you paint, you’re a painter, if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.
[/quote]
…if you fuck a dog then youre a dogfucker[/quote]
and if said dog were press charges and testify in court then you’re a convicted dogfucker
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]nik133 wrote:
I stated my opinion which went against the grain of the thread. I said many times Vic was big, but the claims which he made are ridiculous. Therefore I’m not putting much stock into him saying he didn’t compete because of “health” and “wellness.” I don’t think that argument is ridiculous.[/quote]
You actually insulted the man and didn’t just “state an opinion”. The clear insult is what people took issue with…you know, if truth about the situation was the goal. Also, many back then, including Lee Haney openly spoke about politics in bodybuilding. That was an issue back then up until the 90’s. This isn’t even a secret.
[/quote]
“You would have to be extremely superficial to think something like that…and especially at an age when you really haven’t accomplished much yourself.”
Pot meet kettle.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
… if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.[/quote]
The stage is only ONE aspect of bodybuilding. If you look at Vic Richards and DO NOT think he’s a bodybuilder, then you are clearly blind.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
No one said that to be a bodybuilder you had to make a living from bodybuilding. No one said you had to make it a career to be one. If you paint, you’re a painter, if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.
[/quote]
…if you fuck a dog then youre a dogfucker[/quote]
and if said dog were press charges and testify in court then you’re a convicted dogfucker[/quote]
total bullshit. to be a convicted dogfucker, you need to be proven guilty by either the judge or a jury of your peers. having charges pressed against you and being testified against is not an automatic verdict of guilt, and therefore not a conviction. i think the term you are seeking is “alleged dogfucker”
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
… if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.[/quote]
The stage is only ONE aspect of bodybuilding. If you look at Vic Richards and DO NOT think he’s a bodybuilder, then you are clearly blind.
[/quote]
I am laughing at the idea of seeing him walk down the street at his peak and hearing some skinny dude yell out he’s not a bodybuilder. Most people would see him that way…aside from dudes on the internet who apparently think the little guy in the pic above is more of a bodybuilder than someone like Vic.
[quote]nik133 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]nik133 wrote:
I stated my opinion which went against the grain of the thread. I said many times Vic was big, but the claims which he made are ridiculous. Therefore I’m not putting much stock into him saying he didn’t compete because of “health” and “wellness.” I don’t think that argument is ridiculous.[/quote]
You actually insulted the man and didn’t just “state an opinion”. The clear insult is what people took issue with…you know, if truth about the situation was the goal. Also, many back then, including Lee Haney openly spoke about politics in bodybuilding. That was an issue back then up until the 90’s. This isn’t even a secret.
[/quote]
“You would have to be extremely superficial to think something like that…and especially at an age when you really haven’t accomplished much yourself.”
Pot meet kettle. [/quote]
Nik, you’re really making no sense. If you think ACCOMPLISHMENT only means what trophies are on your shelf, you’ve missed the point.
And did you just call Prof X BLACK?
lol
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]nik133 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]nik133 wrote:
I stated my opinion which went against the grain of the thread. I said many times Vic was big, but the claims which he made are ridiculous. Therefore I’m not putting much stock into him saying he didn’t compete because of “health” and “wellness.” I don’t think that argument is ridiculous.[/quote]
You actually insulted the man and didn’t just “state an opinion”. The clear insult is what people took issue with…you know, if truth about the situation was the goal. Also, many back then, including Lee Haney openly spoke about politics in bodybuilding. That was an issue back then up until the 90’s. This isn’t even a secret.
[/quote]
“You would have to be extremely superficial to think something like that…and especially at an age when you really haven’t accomplished much yourself.”
Pot meet kettle. [/quote]
Nik, you’re really making no sense. If you think ACCOMPLISHMENT only means what trophies are on your shelf, you’ve missed the point.
And did you just call Prof X BLACK?
lol
[/quote]
What? When did I ever say any such thing?
On one hand you can say he is “like Sergio Oliva” and it doesn’t mean you’re comparing them.
On the other hand I say he is scared to get on stage and that is an insult?
Some people are really sensitive.
Vic was definitely a bodybuilder.
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A good friend of mine lives in Brooklyn. He works in the garment district by day, and paints pictures for himself at night. His apartment walls are literally covered with dozens and dozens of his beautiful, colorful canvases. He doesn’t make a living from his paintings. Is he an artist?[/quote]
No one said that to be a bodybuilder you had to make a living from bodybuilding. No one said you had to make it a career to be one. If you paint, you’re a painter, if you get on stage, you’re a bodybuilder.
[/quote]
…if you fuck a dog then youre a dogfucker[/quote]
and if said dog were press charges and testify in court then you’re a convicted dogfucker[/quote]
total bullshit. to be a convicted dogfucker, you need to be proven guilty by either the judge or a jury of your peers. having charges pressed against you and being testified against is not an automatic verdict of guilt, and therefore not a conviction. i think the term you are seeking is “alleged dogfucker”[/quote]
you seem to know a lot about dogfucking … hmmm
If you showed someone any random person a picture of Vic and asked if he/she thought he was a bodybuilder, you’d some pretty stupid looks … aside from putting pictures in strangers’ faces.
Can’t we just use the terms ‘bodybuilder’ and ‘competitive bodybuilder’ as distinctions between people? then we don’t have to have a bullshit argument over semantics. #amidoingitright