ya i just gotta figure out what i should eat on saturday on my solid meal. im thinking chicken and rice, but not sure where im gonna go yet. we will see
im thinkin of buying Power Drive. has anyone whos been on the v-diet tried Power Drive and what were ur results??
You “had” to go to a mexican restaruant huh?
Sounds like everyone needs to take it easy on the solid meals. Try sticking to the 1-a-week… It really isnt that hard.
Day 6 today. Finally got my shipment of sups last night, so i have some more flavors of Metabolic Drive to use instead of the straw and vanilla. Also got my HOT-ROX which SHOULD make the hunger go down. Also got some Micronized German Creatine and ZMA. Should be all set.
I had some weird cravings for cereal while laying in bed last night. I never eat cereal.
Anyone have thoughts on the training? High sets low reps with more weight or continue doing what I am doing now which is CW’s TBT.
Also wondering about the Micronized German Creatine. Does it have a place in the v-diet?
i quit the diet last night. i might try it after football season in december. if i do do it again, i will do it strict, meaning no chicken or milk. right now im doing a version of the AD diet, no more than 30 g of carbs a day. at the end of may, i will make a full transition to the AD diet, since it looks more doable than the v diet
DAY THREE
Went very well. Did the walk in the morning and was pleased to see that the shin splints I was experiencing several weeks ago on SD were finally gone. Food-specific cravings didn’t rear their heads yesterday, just the urge for any type of solid meal.
Sleep was a little shittier last night.
As far as training, I’m going heavy, doing a 5x5 routine three times per week.
[quote]PharmD Pete wrote:
Day 6 today. Finally got my shipment of sups last night, so i have some more flavors of Metabolic Drive to use instead of the straw and vanilla. Also got my HOT-ROX which SHOULD make the hunger go down. Also got some Micronized German Creatine and ZMA. Should be all set.
I had some weird cravings for cereal while laying in bed last night. I never eat cereal.
Anyone have thoughts on the training? High sets low reps with more weight or continue doing what I am doing now which is CW’s TBT.
Also wondering about the Micronized German Creatine. Does it have a place in the v-diet?[/quote]
As far as my experience goes, HOT-ROX does not help with hunger. It’s just a thermogenic, i.e. fat burner. It’s not an appetite suppressent. Don’t expect miracles. Why did you start the V-Diet without it?
I would also hold off on the Creatine until after the V-Diet. Only becuase you won’t reap the full benefits from it, so you might as well save the money and start it up afterwards when your training can ramp back up.
As for training, I would concentrate on maintenance, as Shugs suggested in the article.
[quote]Ballin4Christ32 wrote:
i quit the diet last night. i might try it after football season in december. if i do do it again, i will do it strict, meaning no chicken or milk. right now im doing a version of the AD diet, no more than 30 g of carbs a day. at the end of may, i will make a full transition to the AD diet, since it looks more doable than the v diet[/quote]
Why do you think the V-Diet is not doable? Did it just not fit with your schedule, or was it just to stringent for you? The AD is ok too, kind of outdated, but still applicable.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
As far as my experience goes, HOT-ROX does not help with hunger. It’s just a thermogenic, i.e. fat burner. It’s not an appetite suppressent. Don’t expect miracles. Why did you start the V-Diet without it?
I would also hold off on the Creatine until after the V-Diet. Only becuase you won’t reap the full benefits from it, so you might as well save the money and start it up afterwards when your training can ramp back up.
As for training, I would concentrate on maintenance, as Shugs suggested in the article.[/quote]
I had to start this past weekend and I only had about 10 caps of HOT-ROX left over. been taking 2 per day for the last few days. Now can start taking full dose. I have found in the past that it does help decrease my appetite.
I’ll probably just add the creatine to my PW Surge. Might try the lower reps for the next 2-3 weeks while doing the V-diet.
I’m still considering switching over to the new cheater’s diet from Joel when that gets started. Haven’t decided yet.
day 5. Lost another pound - down 7. This gets to be an easy habit to do, especially since I’ve learned how better to listen to my body. I haven’t been doing the morning cardio, but this weekend I start training for a triathlon, so that will be sufficient I think.
No,thats how much I eat to keep my weight.
The v-diet calculations say I need around 1,800 on workout days and on off days around 1,500 calories.
Wouldn’t going from 4,500 cal a day to 1,800 be really catabolic for someone who needs 4,500 calories a day?
[quote]samuelm704 wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
I was wondering about something the other day: How do a lot of you guys claim to not lose any,or not much,muscle when doing the Velocity diet? I need around 4,500 calories a day.Wouldn’t going to 1,800 calories on workout days and 1,500 on non workout days(since I am a little over 200 pounds) be really catabolic?
I used the V-diet method of calculating my daily caloric needs on this diet and thats what it came out to.
Also,how many of you actually followed the v-diet method of calculating your caloric needs while on this diet?
Thanks,Cthulhu.
Check your calculations again. There is no way you could need 4500 cals on the V-diet at just over 200 lbs.
Using the V-Diet formula you would need to be least 650lbs to require 4500 cals on work-out days.
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[quote]PSlave wrote:
Congrats on your progress, Sting![/quote]
Thanks. At this point, I’m concerned about going another month without tightening my diet, so I may do a week on the V-Diet to keep things in check.
On the other hand, it might make sense to hold off on going that extreme again so soon after coming off the V-Diet, especially if I plan on using the V-Diet again before the summertime. Perhaps it makes more sense to either: (a) increase the duration of my cardio, but keep doing it 3 times a week, (b) leave the duration of my cardio alone, but increase it to 5 times a week, (c) cut my carbohydrates back a bit (50-75 less a day), or (d) a combination of the above.
Anyone have an opinion on this?
Another reason to stay off the V-Diet is to keep the water in my muscles, which as I understand it, contributes to muscle growth. Being off the V-Diet for the past month has allowed me to put on some weight (approximately 4.5 pounds in the past month or so), with a good chunk of that probably constituting lean muscle mass. I’d like to continue gaining, while keeping the fat at bay.
Anyone have an opinion on this as well?
DAY FOUR
Workout went very well in the gym, actually went up a bit on my bench press and shrugs, which really surprised me. Again, no specific food cravings. Still had the urge for a solid meal, but that was only after I got home from work, so I imagine there’s a psychological aspect to that one.
Definitely feeling and looking leaner, and that was the first day I noticed that my jeans were fitting looser.
I’ll be weighing in and doing a body-fat check on Monday.
Well today is the last day of the v-diet for me.
I will finsh out today (Day 7) as planned, but I will be starting Joel’s Cheater’s Diet on April 3. He wants everyone to reset their metabolisms be taking maintenance cals during the week leading up to the start.
I really didn’t notice any increase in vascularity or leanness during the past week. Unfortunately I don’t have a scale at home and the one at my gym doesn’t work, so i don’t have an objective we to measure my weight loss.
At the very least I proved to myself that I can hang with the diet for 1 week. I assume that week 1 is the hardest, so if i choose to revisit it in the future I am confident that I could last for 3-4 weeks if necessary.
[quote]Sting wrote:
PSlave wrote:
Congrats on your progress, Sting!
Thanks. At this point, I’m concerned about going another month without tightening my diet, so I may do a week on the V-Diet to keep things in check.
On the other hand, it might make sense to hold off on going that extreme again so soon after coming off the V-Diet, especially if I plan on using the V-Diet again before the summertime. Perhaps it makes more sense to either: (a) increase the duration of my cardio, but keep doing it 3 times a week, (b) leave the duration of my cardio alone, but increase it to 5 times a week, (c) cut my carbohydrates back a bit (50-75 less a day), or (d) a combination of the above.
Anyone have an opinion on this?
Another reason to stay off the V-Diet is to keep the water in my muscles, which as I understand it, contributes to muscle growth. Being off the V-Diet for the past month has allowed me to put on some weight (approximately 4.5 pounds in the past month or so), with a good chunk of that probably constituting lean muscle mass. I’d like to continue gaining, while keeping the fat at bay.
Anyone have an opinion on this as well?[/quote]
Why not use CT’s carb cycling approach? If you want to incorporate the V-Diet, he’s mentioned using one or two of the off days as Velocity days. I use that before and after to ease the shock to my system.
DAY FIVE
Another day under the belt. Didn’t have any problems going to sleep last night, but slept hard, if you know what I mean. Also, very odd, I dreamed about having a hot fudge sundae for my cheat meal. That is VERY weird because I don’t eat that kind of shit ever, even when I’m bulking! The sugar is just too much for me… unless I’m on a hot date and she feeds it to me… naked. But that’s another topic.
In response to Split: I successfully completed the V-Diet last March. I tried going back on it about four weeks later, but found that I couldn’t do it. I think it was too difficult psychologically. That doesn’t mean that will be the case for you or others, but I really think you should give your mind and your body a break from such an extreme approach.
As another poster suggested, I would use Thib’s carb-cycling approach at a 10 or 20% calorie deficit. That will be part of my post V-diet strategy. Haven’t mapped the whole thing out yet, but I definitely believe that’s the best approach. Let us know what you decide and how it goes!
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
No,thats how much I eat to keep my weight.
The v-diet calculations say I need around 1,800 on workout days and on off days around 1,500 calories.
Wouldn’t going from 4,500 cal a day to 1,800 be really catabolic for someone who needs 4,500 calories a day?
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Ytsnsition is key. You definitely dont want to be eating 4500 calories on sunday and then hit the V-day doing 1800 on Monday. Thats asking for trouble.
As I said before, I think thje V-diet should be used as a final bang, not a jump start. That way you not only make the transition into the diet, but when you are done with it, you are done cutting all together.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Ytsnsition is key. You definitely dont want to be eating 4500 calories on sunday and then hit the V-day doing 1800 on Monday. Thats asking for trouble.
As I said before, I think thje V-diet should be used as a final bang, not a jump start. That way you not only make the transition into the diet, but when you are done with it, you are done cutting all together.[/quote]
While I actually agree with you on the transitioning, this final bang theory seems contradictory to what Shugs suggested in his write-up. He indicated that the V-Diet is the perfect kickstart and then you should transition into something like T-Dawg, or the like.
In my personal experience if you aren’t dieting to begin with jumping right into the V-Diet is a bad idea. However I think it defintely is possible to use the V-Diet to kickstart any other diet you may be on, or get you past a plateau.
You definitely should be used to eating below maintenance before you start it though, and it is possible to transition off of it into another diet with good success. I don’t think it would be a good idea to go right from the V-Diet into not dieting, i.e eating maintenance. You’ll surely gain a bunch of weight back in a short amount of time, even if you transition slowly.
DAY SIX
I knew this day would be a toughy. During the week I work as a corporate slave but, on Saturdays, I work 10am to about 9pm at a bar. I was worried about energy as well as being around solid food in a restaurant all day.
Well, everything went well. I think the fact that I’d already had five successful days under my belt really helped. Also, the fact that Saturday was my scheduled cheat meal day. I had most of my normal shakes, then a salad with two diced chicken breasts.
That said, I DID cheat on my transition away from diet sodas… I had one in the morning instead of coffee, and then had another mixed with liquer that evening on a date. Still, though the day and (night) was long, I was compliant with the rest of the diet.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
In my personal experience if you aren’t dieting to begin with jumping right into the V-Diet is a bad idea. However I think it defintely is possible to use the V-Diet to kickstart any other diet you may be on, or get you past a plateau.
You definitely should be used to eating below maintenance before you start it though, and it is possible to transition off of it into another diet with good success. I don’t think it would be a good idea to go right from the V-Diet into not dieting, i.e eating maintenance. You’ll surely gain a bunch of weight back in a short amount of time, even if you transition slowly.[/quote]
Well said! This is to be my strategy as well. I was eating at 20% under maintenance levels for four weeks leading up to the V-Diet. My transition off will follow Shug’s plan, followed by a few weeks of carb cycling at 20% under, until I hit 4 weeks of dieting. At that point I’ll do maintenance and then, if another cut is needed, just eat under maint again per CT’s guidelines.