Two-a-Days for Extreme Growth

Eh, I don’t know about that. I’m part way into my second pot of coffee and I really don’t have anything else to do.

Maybe you agree to shitcan this profile and come back correctly and we’ll agree.

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Just out of curiosity what are your stats?

Who or what are you talking about? If your referring to the conversation that @RampantBadger are having regarding the Bulgarian system? This conversation has nothing to do about anything you mentioned if that the case.

Again could you please clarify to whom or what your referring to?

Yep its an interesting topic, quite a bit can be learnt from them in terms of overall training mangement, lifestyle, team standards etc

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I’m glad i’m not the only one seeing the logic in these :slight_smile:

Really changed how I look at recovery and the pump in general

wasn’t there another heroine addict who was talking about going back to prison or some shit just a few weeks ago? I swore this was the same guy. Thank you guys for a great thread. I thoroughly enjoyed my reading of it.

EDIT: his name was seeker11 and he posted that 10 Week Transformation in the RMP thread.

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I wanted to add as well, I don’t understand this two a day shit unless you’re an athlete, or a top level pro. I’ve been training for last 4 months with the Hepburn method and adding in a good deal of pushdowns/curls, bodyweight accessories (dips, chins, push-ups, GHR, reverse hyper, etc.) and split squats/step ups. My strength has been increasing at a super fast rate only adding one rep or one 3 rep set a session, and I’ve gained a great deal of size as well. If you really are what you say you are, using what you use, and eating how you eat, you’d be strong and big. Also, what laptop nowadays doesn’t have a webcam? And if you say it’s broke, God so help me…

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If you don’t see the point of two a days, then you’re missing the point… I mean if you don’t want to take the extra time and don’t care that much then that’s fine everybody is different.

But the point is to recover from your original workouts faster and be able to do MORE volume and MORE frequency and end up with MORE results in a given time space. I don’t know how that concept is going over your head.

I have a webcam it’s just absolute terrible quality, on my facebook profile you can’t even see my facial features really.

If any of this is true, I applaud you for getting off drugs and wish you the best with that. If you can stay clean, I hope you can work things out to be a part of your daughter’s life. That being said, you are making some very large assumptions I think should be clarified:

-If something gives results when you are early on in training, which you are, it does not mean it is optimal. You need to consider the chance that there are many other methods you could have used, which would have allowed more recovery, which would have you further along. I know you’ve probably trialed a few things, but you haven’t been at this long enough to really draw meaningful conclusions.
-REDACTED, was potentially wrong on the internet.

If working out is somehow therapeutic/gives you something to do, and your body can handle extreme frequencies like this, more power to you, but you need to understand that you’re not an example that shows this to be the best way to do things.

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Thank you for the kind words! Life has been a wild ride, and for the first time in a while I can honestly say I am really happy with where I am at!

You definitely hit the nail on the head with your post ,but I think you mis understood my intentions when I posted this thread.

By the way I know at 6 feet 200lb and 11.5% I’m not that impressive :stuck_out_tongue: However, this is great progress for ME and I am very happy!

I know now that FOR ME, adding higher volume like this (Which I have only done for the last 4 months or so), has GREATLY improved the rate at which I build muscle. I know this wont be the case for the majority!

I did state that this program is NOT for everyone and that everyone is different. I also manage a total of 12-14hours sleep a day with my nap pretty much every day, there are a lot of factors that contribute to this programs success for me.

I know there are many people who could benefit from lower volume, and I’m not saying this is the “best way”. What I wanted with this thread was to get people to think outside of the box.

I used to be stuck in this way of thinking that severely limited my progression, I thought that I needed X amount of volume and that’s how everyone was. I finally tried experimenting with HIGH volume, and my results skyrocketed. I’m hoping other people will learn from me, and try low volume, high volume, and other things OUTSIDE the norm! That’s all I intended, I know this program will not be ideal for 95%!

And of course it’s true, I don’t know who would lie about previously being an addict and having a lot of problems in life :stuck_out_tongue:

That being said I regret being so open on this forum, I am always naive when it comes to thinking the internet is a kind place and people will treat me how they want to be treated!

Thank you for your mature reply and for not judging me

Definitely not going over my head man. What is, however, is how you need more when you are as weak as you are. I’m not grilling you, but with the amount of weight you are moving, you shouldn’t be gassed at the end of a session to have to do two a days. I have done them in the past, but with conditioning work in the morning, lifting in the evening. If you were much stronger, I’d understand more, but only overhead pressin 115 for 3 and benching 205 for 5, there’s literally no reason for the two a days. If you like them, that’s cool, but I would put more effort in your life (school, jobs, a better life, etc) so you do not get stuck one day because you wanted to “focus more on your body” or whatever. Also, if our have no interest in competing (not sure if you do or not) then bodybuilding specifically is probably the biggest waste of time, especially two a days.

What’s your Facebook name then so we can see what you look like there. If you’re decently sized, we can tell through a shirt.

It’s not that. I’m not a lazy human who only trains and naps and shit. I work 30-50 a week outside, go to school full time, and have a wife. I still train 4 days a week, condition 2-3 and cook my meals and shit, and maintain a good shape and condition. I’m telling you right now, two a days and 7 days a week is about the dumbest thing you can do when it comes to getting bigger and stronger. I know, I know, you don’t care about strength, but if you really care about size and aesthetics as much as you say, then you won’t get there without caring about strength ever. The stronger you get - the more weight you can move- the more weight you can contract/can contract harder = bigger, more aesthetic human.

Sorry for the long post guys.

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Point of clarification/unpopular opinion: He’s off heroin, not drugs. He’s said that within months of getting out of jail, he started steroids. A 22-year old recovering addict who’s trained consistently for just 4-5 months should not be on AAS, but he is and he’s said “I know I shouldn’t be, but don’t talk to me about it.”

SB, you seem kinda-sorta well-intentioned, but also kinda-sorta troll-y and whiny. You’re new to the forum and seem enthusiastic, which is great. But if you’re getting into arguments with multiple long-time members, it’s pretty clearly an issue with you, your approach, your still-doesn’t-quite-add-up story, and your tone.

You’ve said you “have exhausted the knowledge of other forums”, but I’m starting to think that might really mean “Everyone ganged up against me for no reason whatsoever. Nope, I just don’t understand why they did it. So lemme do the same thing here.” That ain’t gonna fly, brother.

Long story short, if you want to keep posting and trying to be helpful, you should slow down and take a breath. Especially if you want to start training/diet coaching full-time, you need to figure out how to get your point across while hearing contradictory opinions. Also note, it requires a bare minimum level of effort to check the dates on threads before replying (bumping a discussion to continue the topic is one thing, bumping a several-year old thread to give the long-gone OP specific advice is something else).

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That is true, and I agree not a good choice, but significantly less likely to ruin/end your life, and ruin the lives of those connected to you.

Look at Mark Bell’s brother as well as many other wrestlers/athletes and say that.

I do not do two a days every day, I only add a secondary workout for one muscle group at a time, and for 2-4 weeks at a time.

For example, my last 8 week or so bulk I used two a days to bring up shoulders, so once every one or two 4-day rotations I Would add the secondary workout, so this works out to once every 4-8 days. I only did this for a 4 week time period, so I really only added 6 extra shoulder workouts in total!!

I am not advocating working out twice a day 7 days a week by any means!

Also, while the benefits to adding the secondary sessions may be minor, there are a few definite proven benefits. They may only have contributed to 2% extra growth, but that’s worth it to me. If I can get ANY additional benefit on top of working on my mind muscle connection and form, then I Will be there in the gym to do it! I’m passionate about working out and really enjoy time in the gym. IF it was beneficial id work out 3x a day… sadly it isn’t.

I totally agree 7 days a week 2x a day is not ideal at all, but adding the secondary sessions once or twice a week for 2-4 weeks to bring up a week bodypart in a bulk is all I was talking about!

At 6’ though? I could be way off on that, I get 200lbs could be huge at some heights, but doesn’t seem like 6’.

I may not always come off how I intend, and that’s something I am working on! I apologise to anyone I offended, I have trouble with coming off arrogant and rude on forums when I don’t mean too, I don’t have this problem in real life which leads me to believe that my comments are not being taken in the way I intend!

I know I need to work on how I communicate on forums, and again I apologize to anyone I offended!

I didn’t originally know how to check the dates on the threads, which is embarrassing to admit because its very simple LOL almost hard to miss.

Isn’t that typically more a result of opioid addiction than steroids?

And I think what he meant to get at is “off recreational drugs”. Steroids are for performance, not something you become dependant on to deal with your emotions and feelings. It’s not like I have a bad day at work and come home and shoot some test!