Has anyone tried out Jason Ferruggias new Triple Threat Muscle system yet? Ive always liked Ferruggia’s low volume high intensity appraoch to lifting, just seems a bit pricey for a digital product… From one of the free workouts that i have seen it looks like hes incrporating Phil Hernons method of 5-10-15 rep zones for each exercise i just wanna get some reviews before i check it out
Didn’t it just come out today? I don’t think somebody will be able to give you feedback on a program that just came out
Not to crap on the guy, but on his website he says, “I went into the hospital weighing 227 pounds and after a few months of being laid up and unable to train I was down to 179!!!” But by following this system for 9 weeks, he was able to jump back to 213 lbs (gain of 34 lbs).
Regardless of the validity of the program, isn’t his claim of gaining 34 lbs of muscle in 9 weeks rather disingenuous? Sounds like a lot of muscle memory gains to me.
I’ve reviewed it over at my blog (strongandfit.net). Looks like a pretty interesting program to try.
From the author:
â??The fact of the matter is that very few people want to look like a big, bloated, immobile, unathletic, heavyweight bodybuilder. They would much rather look like an NFL wide receiver, and Olympic sprinter or gymnast, or, more recently, a ripped UFC fighter.â??
Aha.
[quote]jo3 wrote:
isn’t his claim of gaining 34 lbs of muscle in 9 weeks rather disingenuous?[/quote]
Just to be clear, nowhere is he claiming that he added 34 pounds of muscle. He says 34 pounds of size.
He said: “So when I got healthy I knew that this system was just what I needed to pack size back on as fast as possible. In just 9 weeks I was able to go from 179 to 213.”
[quote]GodOfSteele wrote:
From the author:
The fact of the matter is that very few people want to look like a big, bloated, immobile, unathletic, heavyweight bodybuilder. They would much rather look like an NFL wide receiver, and Olympic sprinter or gymnast, or, more recently, a ripped UFC fighter.
Aha.[/quote]
He’s right. Very few people on the street would choose to look like an offseason Jay Cutler or even an in-season Kai Greene (who is neither bloated nor immoblile). Those same people would agree that someone like Terrell Owens or Georges St. Pierre are an ideal muscular, athletic goal.
People on TMUSCLE, which is a site dedicated to bodybuilding, do not generally fall under that category. However, the program looks like it’s designed to build speed and endurance, as well as strength and muscle. So, even though I haven’t seen the program details, if your goal is to look like a pro bodybuilder, this won’t be the best plan for you.
Nobody’s claiming that the average person on the street doesn’t want to look at a bodybuilder, it’s that he’s using that same fallacious argument that you need to train in some drastically different way than the norm otherwise you’ll wake up one morning and accidentally be 300 pounds.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Nobody’s claiming that the average person on the street doesn’t want to look at a bodybuilder, it’s that he’s using that same fallacious argument that you need to train in some drastically different way than the norm otherwise you’ll wake up one morning and accidentally be 300 pounds.[/quote]
That’s not what he’s claiming at all. I’ve read the 3XM e-book. He’s simply saying size is not the only goal many trainees have in mind.
I’m actually following his program (just finished my second workout) and it’s a breath of fresh air in my training. You can visit strongandfit.net to see my reviews of it.
[quote]kevsworld wrote:
I’ve reviewed it over at my blog (strongandfit.net). Looks like a pretty interesting program to try. [/quote]
I don’t want to be a jerk, but I don’t understand how people can review a program after simply reading it, or trying 1 or 2 workouts.
Shouldn’t a program review be based on the results it produces?
Well, after training for 20 years I can read something and say whether or not it makes sense to me.
who the hell would look at a bodybuilder and say “hmmm, how unathletic!”
nice blog Kev… kinda wish you would of went into a little more detail re: this program tho.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
who the hell would look at a bodybuilder and say “hmmm, how unathletic!”[/quote]
Me - and I’m someone who has loved and followed bodybuilding for over thirteen years.
Why? Because most athletes DON’T look like bodybuilders and I don’t care to entertain the fact that a TINY MINORITY do!
On the other hand, MOST elite level bodybuilders with the muscle mass of Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler would fail terribly at any athletic feat that requires locomoting faster than a walk for a few minutes - and that’s because most athletic events require that.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
who the hell would look at a bodybuilder and say “hmmm, how unathletic!”[/quote]
Me - and I’m someone who has loved and followed bodybuilding for over thirteen years.
Why? Because most athletes DON’T look like bodybuilders and I don’t care to entertain the fact that a TINY MINORITY do!
On the other hand, MOST elite level bodybuilders with the muscle mass of Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler would fail terribly at any athletic feat that requires locomoting faster than a walk for a few minutes - and that’s because most athletic events require that. [/quote]
I think this applies to mass monsters but not so much to the smaller guys (esp. natty BBs).
[quote]jo3 wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
who the hell would look at a bodybuilder and say “hmmm, how unathletic!”[/quote]
Me - and I’m someone who has loved and followed bodybuilding for over thirteen years.
Why? Because most athletes DON’T look like bodybuilders and I don’t care to entertain the fact that a TINY MINORITY do!
On the other hand, MOST elite level bodybuilders with the muscle mass of Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler would fail terribly at any athletic feat that requires locomoting faster than a walk for a few minutes - and that’s because most athletic events require that. [/quote]
I think this applies to mass monsters but not so much to the smaller guys (esp. natty BBs).[/quote]
right, the bbers I’ve met in person look more like linebackers with different proportions and leaner bodies. Of course, I’m sure Ron and Jay could be sick wrestlers and pretty decent at shot put/discus/hammer, and no doubt they’d wreck defnse/offense lines in football. You do have a longer history following this than I do Brick so you may be right. Although my definition of athlete goes beyond how someone looks. Warren Sapp for example, looked like he couldnt walk up stairs without breaks, right?
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
who the hell would look at a bodybuilder and say “hmmm, how unathletic!”[/quote]
Me - and I’m someone who has loved and followed bodybuilding for over thirteen years.
Why? Because most athletes DON’T look like bodybuilders and I don’t care to entertain the fact that a TINY MINORITY do!
On the other hand, MOST elite level bodybuilders with the muscle mass of Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler would fail terribly at any athletic feat that requires locomoting faster than a walk for a few minutes - and that’s because most athletic events require that. [/quote]
Most people realize that packing too much muscle mass serves no purpose whatsoever and is extremely unpractical for most physical activities, especially those where, like brick mentioned, speed is essential.
Even though I consider myself a bodybuilder I understand that carrying too much mass would hamper me in the ring.
On the other hand, if your bitch only likes to fuck in the missionary position, becoming a monster mass may solve the problem.
“No no please don’t get on top! Just give it to me doggy style”.
This doesn’t have anything to do with what’s being discussed but I had to bring it up because of it’s importance.
It’s not only a matter of speed. It’s a matter of endurance and mobility as well.
In most sports people with enough mass to be successful in bodybuilding would be destroyed.
Sprinting
Swimming
Baseball
Tennis
Middle and long distance running
Hockey
Soccer
MOST football positions
Come to think of it, nearly all Olympic sports aside from the ones mentioned.
And YES, if you have too much mass in certain areas (eg, shoulder girdle, upper back, biceps) Olympic lifting can be hampered as well, particularly in locking arms out overhead and catching the bar. Check some of CT’s writings in which he discusses this.
Real gangster-ass bodybuilders don’t run from shit, cause real gangster-ass bodybuilders can’t run fast.
I don’t think anybody would argue that Ronnie Coleman and similar monsters would be adept at coordination or agility sports. But what about people who have muscle mass to a lesser extent?
Shotput, hammer throw, gymnastics (little dudes, yes, but they have decent mass), wrestling, etc. These are all sports that rely on strength.
dear sultan of swole, damn it feels good to be a ganster… lol, such a good song.