Trevor Smith Footage

Training
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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Was not really impressed by his size considering the weight that was claimed. Also training looked goofy with the machine squats. Slow eccentrics nothing new there. [/quote]

Yeah that wasn’t directed at you.

Obviously its nothing new, but I hadn’t thought about doing them for a while, served as an interesting reminder.

In all fairness, most footage doesn’t show anything that’s completely novel, because nearly everyone that has ever gotten huge has used variations of the basics, so i’m not really sure what people were expecting.
[/quote]

If you want pain just follow some JM leg training. Slow eccentrics drop sets partial reps all in one set. Fuck it hurts so good

I no nothing is brand new but considering this guys supposed insane size and strength I was expecting some crazy weights and a massive dude. I saw neither [/quote]

Try a cycle of Trevor’s “Beyond Failure Training” utilizing his training principles (the Zero Momentum reps are brutal if you really want to feel a burn) and then tell me that JM’s stuff is more intense. Don’t get me wrong, I love JM’s stuff and it is intense, but Trevor’s stuff has Super slow eccentrics, paused reps, drop sets, and forced reps (at each drop) all in one set. And you do multiple sets of isolation stuff before moving on to Compound (machine for safety sake) movements for the same muscle done in the same fashion for multiple sets.

Probably a bit on the overkill side of things and I don’t know if any naturals can sustain progress on his program (I know I burned out fairly quickly), but if we are just talking pure raw intensity and pain while training, Trevor’s stuff is bar none the most brutal BB’ing training program I’ve ever tried. The pumps you get afterwards are otherworldly as well.[/quote]

The training sounds very similar IMO. Those are the same techniques and same exercise layout same rep set up

I also never said his training wasn’t painful or hard or intense. Just for someone who was spoke of as giant with insane strength ect ect his training looked normal to me and yes my view of normal is bit screwed up

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Was not really impressed by his size considering the weight that was claimed. Also training looked goofy with the machine squats. Slow eccentrics nothing new there. [/quote]

Yeah that wasn’t directed at you.

Obviously its nothing new, but I hadn’t thought about doing them for a while, served as an interesting reminder.

In all fairness, most footage doesn’t show anything that’s completely novel, because nearly everyone that has ever gotten huge has used variations of the basics, so i’m not really sure what people were expecting.
[/quote]

If you want pain just follow some JM leg training. Slow eccentrics drop sets partial reps all in one set. Fuck it hurts so good

I no nothing is brand new but considering this guys supposed insane size and strength I was expecting some crazy weights and a massive dude. I saw neither [/quote]

Try a cycle of Trevor’s “Beyond Failure Training” utilizing his training principles (the Zero Momentum reps are brutal if you really want to feel a burn) and then tell me that JM’s stuff is more intense. Don’t get me wrong, I love JM’s stuff and it is intense, but Trevor’s stuff has Super slow eccentrics, paused reps, drop sets, and forced reps (at each drop) all in one set. And you do multiple sets of isolation stuff before moving on to Compound (machine for safety sake) movements for the same muscle done in the same fashion for multiple sets.

Probably a bit on the overkill side of things and I don’t know if any naturals can sustain progress on his program (I know I burned out fairly quickly), but if we are just talking pure raw intensity and pain while training, Trevor’s stuff is bar none the most brutal BB’ing training program I’ve ever tried. The pumps you get afterwards are otherworldly as well.[/quote]

The training sounds very similar IMO. Those are the same techniques and same exercise layout same rep set up

I also never said his training wasn’t painful or hard or intense. Just for someone who was spoke of as giant with insane strength ect ect his training looked normal to me and yes my view of normal is bit screwed up [/quote]

As SentoGuy mentioned, there’s also a limit as to what a natural lifter like myself (and i think you?) can take. This guy was undoubtedly juiced up to the gills, there’s definitely another level he’s capable of that my body just could not handle.

Hell, my workouts are already just about all i can handle.

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The only question that came to my mind watching that video was …

Why was he wearing a hair net? … Or what IS that thing on his head?

That’s one article of bodybuilder fashion I don’t recall …

Anyway - carry on

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

Didn’t I, word-for-word above, say that his legs were not small.
[/quote]

You wrote this:

Maybe on your planet this doesn’t mean anything in regards to their size not being up to par.[/quote]

Clearly “soft” is synonymous with “small” now…[/quote]

No, “soft legs without any appreciable shape or size” is.

It is a little weak to even try to act like “no appreciable shape and size” can’t be seen as saying they looked “small”…but keep trying.[/quote]

ap·pre·ci·a·ble
É?Ë?prÄ?SH(Ä?)É?bÉ?l/
adjective
adjective: appreciable

1.
large or important enough to be noticed

It seems someone doesn’t know the meaning of the word appreciable. In the video posted, those legs did not look appreciable. In person, I’m sure they were.

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I could also believe he reached 400 lbs judging by his size in some of the pics I’ve seen of him standing next to guys like Jay and Ronnie. I know a couple 400 lb guys, and at his height I don’t think that weight is unrealistic.

Also, while I agree that the ROM on those machine squats was very small, he had a ton of weight on that thing (tough to see how many as the video quality isn’t the best but I am sure he’s got over 1,000 lbs on that thing from what I can see). Knowing that his legs are already probably trashed from doing Leg extensions and leg curls, that is pretty impressive even if it’s a very short ROM (just like Ronnie’s Leg Press video).

Cool story by Marqaos as well

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He and Greg Kovacs would have snapped the teeter totter.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Was not really impressed by his size considering the weight that was claimed. Also training looked goofy with the machine squats. Slow eccentrics nothing new there. [/quote]

Yeah that wasn’t directed at you.

Obviously its nothing new, but I hadn’t thought about doing them for a while, served as an interesting reminder.

In all fairness, most footage doesn’t show anything that’s completely novel, because nearly everyone that has ever gotten huge has used variations of the basics, so i’m not really sure what people were expecting.
[/quote]

If you want pain just follow some JM leg training. Slow eccentrics drop sets partial reps all in one set. Fuck it hurts so good

I no nothing is brand new but considering this guys supposed insane size and strength I was expecting some crazy weights and a massive dude. I saw neither [/quote]

Try a cycle of Trevor’s “Beyond Failure Training” utilizing his training principles (the Zero Momentum reps are brutal if you really want to feel a burn) and then tell me that JM’s stuff is more intense. Don’t get me wrong, I love JM’s stuff and it is intense, but Trevor’s stuff has Super slow eccentrics, paused reps, drop sets, and forced reps (at each drop) all in one set. And you do multiple sets of isolation stuff before moving on to Compound (machine for safety sake) movements for the same muscle done in the same fashion for multiple sets.

Probably a bit on the overkill side of things and I don’t know if any naturals can sustain progress on his program (I know I burned out fairly quickly), but if we are just talking pure raw intensity and pain while training, Trevor’s stuff is bar none the most brutal BB’ing training program I’ve ever tried. The pumps you get afterwards are otherworldly as well.[/quote]

The training sounds very similar IMO. Those are the same techniques and same exercise layout same rep set up

I also never said his training wasn’t painful or hard or intense. Just for someone who was spoke of as giant with insane strength ect ect his training looked normal to me and yes my view of normal is bit screwed up [/quote]

Here is a typical BFT leg session:

  1. Leg extensions- warm up as usual until you get to a weight where you will reach failure around 10-12 reps, then…
    -Perform reps to failure
    -have training partner give you just enough assistance for you to be able to perform 6-8 forced reps (and by just enough, I mean just enough, each and every forced rep should be agonizingly hard and will test your will)
    -drop the weight 30-40% and again go to failure on your own
    -partner again “assists” you in performing 6-8 more forced reps
    -drop the weight again 30-40% and go till failure
    -partner again provides just enough assistance for you to gut out 6-8 more forced reps (and if you are doing this right, believe me that you will be struggling with every ounce of your will to complete these final forced reps; your quads will also feel like someone is blow torching them)

“Rest” (more like question your sanity for deciding to try this and contemplate calling it a wash and going back to your old way of training) for a couple minutes and then complete a second set in exactly the same fashion as above. In my experience with this your quads will be burning and site in places that they never have been from doing leg extensions by this point and walking will be difficult.

Next, pick a machine squat variation and load it up with enough weight to where you will be able to gut out 8-10 reps to failure on your own and then again have your training partner give you just enough assistance to perform 5-6 more forced reps.

Finally, perform 2 sets of leg curls in the exact fashion that you performed the leg extensions.
And that’s it for the leg day. Seriously, try one cycle of that and tell me that and then tell me that it’s normal.

Finally, if you’re really masochistic, try doing it “Zero Momentum Reps” style (each rep is done with a 3-4 second negative, a 3 second pause at the absolute maximum stretched position, taking 1.5-2 seconds to try to move through the first 1/4-1/3 of the motion and then finishing the rep/all in all the concentric will likely take around 3-4 seconds just like the negative). This is pretty much what IamMarqaos was talking about Trevor doing with the flyes. This is also like some kind of mad scientists combination of constant tension and paused reps.

So, sorry but JM’s stuff is not in the same league. That’s not to say that I think Trevor’s stuff was better, I don’t, I actually think JM’s stuff is better (especially for a natty), but believe me, they are not the same. Try BFT yourself if you don’t believe me and see for yourself.

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Are there any more videos about him?

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Are there any more videos about him?

[/quote]

No, and most assumed his wife would never release the footage, either.

There is a lot of stuff around the internet about him, though. More words than pics or videos however.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Was not really impressed by his size considering the weight that was claimed. Also training looked goofy with the machine squats. Slow eccentrics nothing new there. [/quote]

Yeah that wasn’t directed at you.

Obviously its nothing new, but I hadn’t thought about doing them for a while, served as an interesting reminder.

In all fairness, most footage doesn’t show anything that’s completely novel, because nearly everyone that has ever gotten huge has used variations of the basics, so i’m not really sure what people were expecting.
[/quote]

If you want pain just follow some JM leg training. Slow eccentrics drop sets partial reps all in one set. Fuck it hurts so good

I no nothing is brand new but considering this guys supposed insane size and strength I was expecting some crazy weights and a massive dude. I saw neither [/quote]

Try a cycle of Trevor’s “Beyond Failure Training” utilizing his training principles (the Zero Momentum reps are brutal if you really want to feel a burn) and then tell me that JM’s stuff is more intense. Don’t get me wrong, I love JM’s stuff and it is intense, but Trevor’s stuff has Super slow eccentrics, paused reps, drop sets, and forced reps (at each drop) all in one set. And you do multiple sets of isolation stuff before moving on to Compound (machine for safety sake) movements for the same muscle done in the same fashion for multiple sets.

Probably a bit on the overkill side of things and I don’t know if any naturals can sustain progress on his program (I know I burned out fairly quickly), but if we are just talking pure raw intensity and pain while training, Trevor’s stuff is bar none the most brutal BB’ing training program I’ve ever tried. The pumps you get afterwards are otherworldly as well.[/quote]

The training sounds very similar IMO. Those are the same techniques and same exercise layout same rep set up

I also never said his training wasn’t painful or hard or intense. Just for someone who was spoke of as giant with insane strength ect ect his training looked normal to me and yes my view of normal is bit screwed up [/quote]

Here is a typical BFT leg session:

  1. Leg extensions- warm up as usual until you get to a weight where you will reach failure around 10-12 reps, then…
    -Perform reps to failure
    -have training partner give you just enough assistance for you to be able to perform 6-8 forced reps (and by just enough, I mean just enough, each and every forced rep should be agonizingly hard and will test your will)
    -drop the weight 30-40% and again go to failure on your own
    -partner again “assists” you in performing 6-8 more forced reps
    -drop the weight again 30-40% and go till failure
    -partner again provides just enough assistance for you to gut out 6-8 more forced reps (and if you are doing this right, believe me that you will be struggling with every ounce of your will to complete these final forced reps; your quads will also feel like someone is blow torching them)

“Rest” (more like question your sanity for deciding to try this and contemplate calling it a wash and going back to your old way of training) for a couple minutes and then complete a second set in exactly the same fashion as above. In my experience with this your quads will be burning and site in places that they never have been from doing leg extensions by this point and walking will be difficult.

Next, pick a machine squat variation and load it up with enough weight to where you will be able to gut out 8-10 reps to failure on your own and then again have your training partner give you just enough assistance to perform 5-6 more forced reps.

Finally, perform 2 sets of leg curls in the exact fashion that you performed the leg extensions.
And that’s it for the leg day. Seriously, try one cycle of that and tell me that and then tell me that it’s normal.

Finally, if you’re really masochistic, try doing it “Zero Momentum Reps” style (each rep is done with a 3-4 second negative, a 3 second pause at the absolute maximum stretched position, taking 1.5-2 seconds to try to move through the first 1/4-1/3 of the motion and then finishing the rep/all in all the concentric will likely take around 3-4 seconds just like the negative). This is pretty much what IamMarqaos was talking about Trevor doing with the flyes. This is also like some kind of mad scientists combination of constant tension and paused reps.

So, sorry but JM’s stuff is not in the same league. That’s not to say that I think Trevor’s stuff was better, I don’t, I actually think JM’s stuff is better (especially for a natty), but believe me, they are not the same. Try BFT yourself if you don’t believe me and see for yourself.[/quote]

Sure that training is painful and I have done my fair share of workouts that were like that but honestly its dumb IMO. I have 0 reason to do that training unless you want to just get nasty or brutalize a friend. But in terms of growth from that I have seen 0 supporting evidence that you will grow better from that training.

Side note JMs training is just fine for nattys again because its intelligently designed yet still painful and intense rather than what you just posted. That’s just pain for pains sake. Which is fun from time to time. But long term growth no. IMO again. But I do know plenty of nattys that make great gains off of JMs training.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:
I had no clue who Trevor was and from the video I wasn’t hugely impressed. [/quote]

That would be the problem with hitting youtube and using ONE video taken at some random point in time and using that as the way someone trained and looked their entire life.[/quote]

I’m not going to judge a person from one video. There has to be more to a persons training than one random video at one point in time.

I can believe he is 400lbs from the pic of him next to Jay.

Koing

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[quote]Koing wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:
I had no clue who Trevor was and from the video I wasn’t hugely impressed. [/quote]

That would be the problem with hitting youtube and using ONE video taken at some random point in time and using that as the way someone trained and looked their entire life.[/quote]

I’m not going to judge a person from one video. There has to be more to a persons training than one random video at one point in time.

I can believe he is 400lbs from the pic of him next to Jay.

Koing[/quote]

Which is all I was getting at from the start.

This guy had some personal issues. He is also dead. I remember a decent amount about him so this thread came off as trying to degrade someone who had more impact than that when he was actually still here.

The youtube gen is missing quite a bit of history if they think it is all found online…especially since bodybuilding used to literally be a “word of mouth sport”. The guys in the gymrat gyms were the ones who knew the outcome of the latest contest and had all the gossip before there was an internet.

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Seems appropriate again

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Seems appropriate again[/quote]

harhar

Koing

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Was not really impressed by his size considering the weight that was claimed. Also training looked goofy with the machine squats. Slow eccentrics nothing new there. [/quote]

Yeah that wasn’t directed at you.

Obviously its nothing new, but I hadn’t thought about doing them for a while, served as an interesting reminder.

In all fairness, most footage doesn’t show anything that’s completely novel, because nearly everyone that has ever gotten huge has used variations of the basics, so i’m not really sure what people were expecting.
[/quote]

If you want pain just follow some JM leg training. Slow eccentrics drop sets partial reps all in one set. Fuck it hurts so good

I no nothing is brand new but considering this guys supposed insane size and strength I was expecting some crazy weights and a massive dude. I saw neither [/quote]

Try a cycle of Trevor’s “Beyond Failure Training” utilizing his training principles (the Zero Momentum reps are brutal if you really want to feel a burn) and then tell me that JM’s stuff is more intense. Don’t get me wrong, I love JM’s stuff and it is intense, but Trevor’s stuff has Super slow eccentrics, paused reps, drop sets, and forced reps (at each drop) all in one set. And you do multiple sets of isolation stuff before moving on to Compound (machine for safety sake) movements for the same muscle done in the same fashion for multiple sets.

Probably a bit on the overkill side of things and I don’t know if any naturals can sustain progress on his program (I know I burned out fairly quickly), but if we are just talking pure raw intensity and pain while training, Trevor’s stuff is bar none the most brutal BB’ing training program I’ve ever tried. The pumps you get afterwards are otherworldly as well.[/quote]

The training sounds very similar IMO. Those are the same techniques and same exercise layout same rep set up

I also never said his training wasn’t painful or hard or intense. Just for someone who was spoke of as giant with insane strength ect ect his training looked normal to me and yes my view of normal is bit screwed up [/quote]

Here is a typical BFT leg session:

  1. Leg extensions- warm up as usual until you get to a weight where you will reach failure around 10-12 reps, then…
    -Perform reps to failure
    -have training partner give you just enough assistance for you to be able to perform 6-8 forced reps (and by just enough, I mean just enough, each and every forced rep should be agonizingly hard and will test your will)
    -drop the weight 30-40% and again go to failure on your own
    -partner again “assists” you in performing 6-8 more forced reps
    -drop the weight again 30-40% and go till failure
    -partner again provides just enough assistance for you to gut out 6-8 more forced reps (and if you are doing this right, believe me that you will be struggling with every ounce of your will to complete these final forced reps; your quads will also feel like someone is blow torching them)

“Rest” (more like question your sanity for deciding to try this and contemplate calling it a wash and going back to your old way of training) for a couple minutes and then complete a second set in exactly the same fashion as above. In my experience with this your quads will be burning and site in places that they never have been from doing leg extensions by this point and walking will be difficult.

Next, pick a machine squat variation and load it up with enough weight to where you will be able to gut out 8-10 reps to failure on your own and then again have your training partner give you just enough assistance to perform 5-6 more forced reps.

Finally, perform 2 sets of leg curls in the exact fashion that you performed the leg extensions.
And that’s it for the leg day. Seriously, try one cycle of that and tell me that and then tell me that it’s normal.

Finally, if you’re really masochistic, try doing it “Zero Momentum Reps” style (each rep is done with a 3-4 second negative, a 3 second pause at the absolute maximum stretched position, taking 1.5-2 seconds to try to move through the first 1/4-1/3 of the motion and then finishing the rep/all in all the concentric will likely take around 3-4 seconds just like the negative). This is pretty much what IamMarqaos was talking about Trevor doing with the flyes. This is also like some kind of mad scientists combination of constant tension and paused reps.

So, sorry but JM’s stuff is not in the same league. That’s not to say that I think Trevor’s stuff was better, I don’t, I actually think JM’s stuff is better (especially for a natty), but believe me, they are not the same. Try BFT yourself if you don’t believe me and see for yourself.[/quote]

Sure that training is painful and I have done my fair share of workouts that were like that but honestly its dumb IMO. I have 0 reason to do that training unless you want to just get nasty or brutalize a friend. But in terms of growth from that I have seen 0 supporting evidence that you will grow better from that training.

Side note JMs training is just fine for nattys again because its intelligently designed yet still painful and intense rather than what you just posted. That’s just pain for pains sake. Which is fun from time to time. But long term growth no. IMO again. But I do know plenty of nattys that make great gains off of JMs training. [/quote]

Yeah, we’re pretty much in complete agreement there.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Seems appropriate again[/quote]

No need for idioms. Sub the dead horse for a dead bodybuilder and you’re there.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:
I had no clue who Trevor was and from the video I wasn’t hugely impressed. [/quote]

That would be the problem with hitting youtube and using ONE video taken at some random point in time and using that as the way someone trained and looked their entire life.[/quote]

I’m not going to judge a person from one video. There has to be more to a persons training than one random video at one point in time.

I can believe he is 400lbs from the pic of him next to Jay.

Koing[/quote]

Which is all I was getting at from the start.

This guy had some personal issues. He is also dead. I remember a decent amount about him so this thread came off as trying to degrade someone who had more impact than that when he was actually still here.

The youtube gen is missing quite a bit of history if they think it is all found online…especially since bodybuilding used to literally be a “word of mouth sport”. The guys in the gymrat gyms were the ones who knew the outcome of the latest contest and had all the gossip before there was an internet.[/quote]

I know Trevor’s history being I followed him in the early 2000’s when he had his Nuclear Nutrition and his own nutrition line. I also picked upa copy of Gear Uzr, his own magazine. I also remember the interviews he did with Jason Mueller and Ian Harrison for Anabolic Extreme. I even shared an email with him once. I’ve also met his former wife. So I know a little bit about him too.

I DEGRADED him?

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:
I had no clue who Trevor was and from the video I wasn’t hugely impressed. [/quote]

That would be the problem with hitting youtube and using ONE video taken at some random point in time and using that as the way someone trained and looked their entire life.[/quote]

I’m not going to judge a person from one video. There has to be more to a persons training than one random video at one point in time.

I can believe he is 400lbs from the pic of him next to Jay.

Koing[/quote]

Which is all I was getting at from the start.

This guy had some personal issues. He is also dead. I remember a decent amount about him so this thread came off as trying to degrade someone who had more impact than that when he was actually still here.

The youtube gen is missing quite a bit of history if they think it is all found online…especially since bodybuilding used to literally be a “word of mouth sport”. The guys in the gymrat gyms were the ones who knew the outcome of the latest contest and had all the gossip before there was an internet.[/quote]

I know Trevor’s history being I followed him in the early 2000’s when he had his Nuclear Nutrition and his own nutrition line. I also picked upa copy of Gear Uzr, his own magazine. I also remember the interviews he did with Jason Mueller and Ian Harrison for Anabolic Extreme. I even shared an email with him once. I’ve also met his former wife. So I know a little bit about him too.

I DEGRADED him?
[/quote]

If you truly knew that much, then I was right as to why you created the thread.

Thanks for that.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Koing wrote:
I had no clue who Trevor was and from the video I wasn’t hugely impressed. [/quote]

That would be the problem with hitting youtube and using ONE video taken at some random point in time and using that as the way someone trained and looked their entire life.[/quote]

I’m not going to judge a person from one video. There has to be more to a persons training than one random video at one point in time.

I can believe he is 400lbs from the pic of him next to Jay.

Koing[/quote]

Which is all I was getting at from the start.

This guy had some personal issues. He is also dead. I remember a decent amount about him so this thread came off as trying to degrade someone who had more impact than that when he was actually still here.

The youtube gen is missing quite a bit of history if they think it is all found online…especially since bodybuilding used to literally be a “word of mouth sport”. The guys in the gymrat gyms were the ones who knew the outcome of the latest contest and had all the gossip before there was an internet.[/quote]

I know Trevor’s history being I followed him in the early 2000’s when he had his Nuclear Nutrition and his own nutrition line. I also picked upa copy of Gear Uzr, his own magazine. I also remember the interviews he did with Jason Mueller and Ian Harrison for Anabolic Extreme. I even shared an email with him once. I’ve also met his former wife. So I know a little bit about him too.

I DEGRADED him?
[/quote]

If you truly knew that much, then I was right as to why you created the thread.

Thanks for that.[/quote]

What were you right about it? Provide proof please.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I know Trevor’s history being I followed him in the early 2000’s when he had his Nuclear Nutrition and his own nutrition line. I also picked upa copy of Gear Uzr, his own magazine. I also remember the interviews he did with Jason Mueller and Ian Harrison for Anabolic Extreme. I even shared an email with him once. I’ve also met his former wife. So I know a little bit about him too.

I DEGRADED him?
[/quote]

If you truly knew that much, then I was right as to why you created the thread.

Thanks for that.[/quote]

X- you seriously sounds like you have an ax to grind with some people lately. I never do this, but I actually went back to the original post just to double check what Brick wrote, and I fail to see what the big deal is. He followed Trevor’s writing extensively over the years, but never (until now) actually saw any recall footage of the guy. As there aren’t (allegedly) any pics of him shirtless, young Brick was left with Trevor’s own recounting his exploits, stats, accomplishments etc to create an image in his mind of just what an impressive specimen he was before his untimely passing.

Along these lines, he expressed his surprise (and possibly a bit of hero-worshiping let down) to not be impressed by the one video that he’s been able to track down.

As he put it in one of his initial posts:

[quote]
from the way the guy spoke, I really was expecting more, perhaps along the lines of 500+ pound full range squats for reps, or if not that, at least some monstrous poundages on the leg press and hack squat with decent form, and legs that would make most pros envious. This is not to discredit what the guy does–this is simply lifting weights and I can’t take it so damn seriously that I’m going to give unrelenting criticism for a deceased man–but I was expecting much more [/quote]

Doesn’t sound like he’s berating a deceased lifter, merely expressing a combination of let down, and possibly pondering if there was ever a bit of hyperbole on Smith’s part in order to garner a following. Couple this with the fact that his wife (who I know for a fact that Brick has spent time with due to a ‘connection’ to her new husband) isn’t releasing any videos or photos of the deceased, and we’re left with a whole lot of writing, anecdotes, and what looks to be only this one video. Obviously you’re going to read into this what you want, but there’s nothing really malicious sounding in this thread.

S