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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

I say go back to bodybuilding.com

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Why do you have your shirt of in an update video?

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

I say go back to bodybuilding.com[/quote]

^???^

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

You aren’t developed enough to be that set on how your genetics for symmetry and shape will play out. That is what I was telling you before. I have no doubt that some people around you may be filling your head with “wow, your gigantic” statements, but much of that is because since the mid-90’s, there have been far fewer really big guys walking around…which means anyone with ANY amount of size on them AT ALL is going to have sedentary people calling them huge.

Once again, it is plain to see that you alone will hold yourself back. You have already accepted your limitations before you ever got close to them. You will end up one of those guys never gets much beyond where you are now because you will focus way too much on competing while ignoring that you could have made much more progress had you realized early on that you were just getting started and never did have weak genetics.

Bodybuilding is also about illusion, not simply being born already built and already well put together.

That’s all I will say about this. I’ve seen quite a few guys like you since I first started training. You might as well be a carbon copy…unless there is some small chance of you actually listening.

Stay in school.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

You aren’t developed enough to be that set on how your genetics for symmetry and shape will play out. That is what I was telling you before. I have no doubt that some people around you may be filling your head with “wow, your gigantic” statements, but much of that is because since the mid-90’s, there have been far fewer really big guys walking around…which means anyone with ANY amount of size on them AT ALL is going to have sedentary people calling them huge.

Once again, it is plain to see that you alone will hold yourself back. You have already accepted your limitations before you ever got close to them. You will end up one of those guys never gets much beyond where you are now because you will focus way too much on competing while ignoring that you could have made much more progress had you realized early on that you were just getting started and never did have weak genetics.

Bodybuilding is also about illusion, not simply being born already built and already well put together.

That’s all I will say about this. I’ve seen quite a few guys like you since I first started training. You might as well be a carbon copy…unless there is some small chance of you actually listening.

Stay in school.[/quote]

I’m listening bro, I was not arguing w. you at all. I was interested in what you had to say. Just making discussion. Its not that I’m limiting myself, more that I am just intrigued by genetics, but I do like what you said. I don’t compete that often… I take a full year off in-between shows… Did 3 in a row at the end of 2009 succesfully, but thats it. I am well aware I have a lot more to go for sure! I just enjoy competing, and it has gone well so far.

My one and only reason for not full-on dirty bulkin now is because I am no spokes modelling for RTN, and building my career in modelling/fitness modelling, which is more importiant to me than competing at the moment, being a path to income, and career. (Spokesmodelling+PR more than modelling).

But trust me man, I am all about learning more and more, which is why I brough up all of that to you. I have seen your posts, and respect the amount of knowlege and experience you have, and just wanted to hear your input. I have only been competing for 4-5 years, I am well aware of my possition. I’m all ears man. And again, I did not MEAN for this thread to come off as “I am the best, check me out” etc., it was my fault for posting it like I did, because that is honestly not what I was aiming for… It was more to just promote the channel, but I realize I went about it wrong.

Thanks though.

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

You aren’t developed enough to be that set on how your genetics for symmetry and shape will play out. That is what I was telling you before. I have no doubt that some people around you may be filling your head with “wow, your gigantic” statements, but much of that is because since the mid-90’s, there have been far fewer really big guys walking around…which means anyone with ANY amount of size on them AT ALL is going to have sedentary people calling them huge.

Once again, it is plain to see that you alone will hold yourself back. You have already accepted your limitations before you ever got close to them. You will end up one of those guys never gets much beyond where you are now because you will focus way too much on competing while ignoring that you could have made much more progress had you realized early on that you were just getting started and never did have weak genetics.

Bodybuilding is also about illusion, not simply being born already built and already well put together.

That’s all I will say about this. I’ve seen quite a few guys like you since I first started training. You might as well be a carbon copy…unless there is some small chance of you actually listening.

Stay in school.[/quote]

I’m listening bro, I was not arguing w. you at all. I was interested in what you had to say. Just making discussion. Its not that I’m limiting myself, more that I am just intrigued by genetics, but I do like what you said. I don’t compete that often… I take a full year off in-between shows… Did 3 in a row at the end of 2009 succesfully, but thats it. I am well aware I have a lot more to go for sure! I just enjoy competing, and it has gone well so far.

My one and only reason for not full-on dirty bulkin now is because I am no spokes modelling for RTN, and building my career in modelling/fitness modelling, which is more importiant to me than competing at the moment, being a path to income, and career. (Spokesmodelling+PR more than modelling).

But trust me man, I am all about learning more and more, which is why I brough up all of that to you. I have seen your posts, and respect the amount of knowlege and experience you have, and just wanted to hear your input. I have only been competing for 4-5 years, I am well aware of my possition. I’m all ears man. And again, I did not MEAN for this thread to come off as “I am the best, check me out” etc., it was my fault for posting it like I did, because that is honestly not what I was aiming for… It was more to just promote the channel, but I realize I went about it wrong.

Thanks though.[/quote]

Typo: “I am NOW spokesmodelling for RTN…” But bottom line, I’ve been listening. I like what you said, just trying to learn from you man.

N.

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So you aren’t looking to be the next Mr.O, but instead want to pursue a career in modeling. Sounds smart to me, it will probably make you a lot more money. lol

Train according to your own goals, but if you want to compete seriously at top level bodybuilding, then any fool can see(like me, who knows next to nothing about BB) that you need to focus on size for some years.

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This kid obviously doesnt know who Prof. X is, and who hes dealing with… lol

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

You aren’t developed enough to be that set on how your genetics for symmetry and shape will play out. That is what I was telling you before. I have no doubt that some people around you may be filling your head with “wow, your gigantic” statements, but much of that is because since the mid-90’s, there have been far fewer really big guys walking around…which means anyone with ANY amount of size on them AT ALL is going to have sedentary people calling them huge.

Once again, it is plain to see that you alone will hold yourself back. You have already accepted your limitations before you ever got close to them. You will end up one of those guys never gets much beyond where you are now because you will focus way too much on competing while ignoring that you could have made much more progress had you realized early on that you were just getting started and never did have weak genetics.

Bodybuilding is also about illusion, not simply being born already built and already well put together.

That’s all I will say about this. I’ve seen quite a few guys like you since I first started training. You might as well be a carbon copy…unless there is some small chance of you actually listening.

Stay in school.[/quote]

I’m listening bro, I was not arguing w. you at all. I was interested in what you had to say. Just making discussion. Its not that I’m limiting myself, more that I am just intrigued by genetics, but I do like what you said. I don’t compete that often… I take a full year off in-between shows… Did 3 in a row at the end of 2009 succesfully, but thats it. I am well aware I have a lot more to go for sure! I just enjoy competing, and it has gone well so far.

My one and only reason for not full-on dirty bulkin now is because I am no spokes modelling for RTN, and building my career in modelling/fitness modelling, which is more importiant to me than competing at the moment, being a path to income, and career. (Spokesmodelling+PR more than modelling).

But trust me man, I am all about learning more and more, which is why I brough up all of that to you. I have seen your posts, and respect the amount of knowlege and experience you have, and just wanted to hear your input. I have only been competing for 4-5 years, I am well aware of my possition. I’m all ears man. And again, I did not MEAN for this thread to come off as “I am the best, check me out” etc., it was my fault for posting it like I did, because that is honestly not what I was aiming for… It was more to just promote the channel, but I realize I went about it wrong.

Thanks though.[/quote]

I actually think you may have a lot of potential. I just also think you haven’t even come close to it so bragging about where you are now isn’t going to go over well if people see it that way. Good luck with the modeling.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
BUT I have to dissagree with having good genetics. If you saw photos of before lifting, and progress over the last 4-5 years of it, you would agree.
[/quote]

Why would I agree? If you saw pictures of me as a freshmen in high school, you would think I had posted pictures of some starving Somalian kid. I worked UP to 150lbs by the time I graduated. Your genetics don’t change and that term does not simply apply to what you looked like BEFORE training. It also applies to how far you can go over time in terms of size built.

By your logic, I also have bad genetics. I’ll tell that to my shirt sleeves.[/quote]

Well, I was following what you had said about analyzing how one’s body devops, responds, reacts, and grows over the years of training, eating etc. etc. I mean, how you begin is of course just one’s build, and won’t prohibit anyone from getting huge, just like you described lol. My genetics allow certain areas to be strong of course… legs, back, and biceps in paticular, and of course everybody has their weak spots, but I have that true hard-gainer, long-limbed genetic build. I never used that as any sort of excuse, I still managed to put on quallity size with it. It’s just all what your looking for. Ronnie Coleman looked like he was a bodybuilder before he even began. He had great genetics FOR becoming a mass monster, and fast. I have great genetics for certain areas, but then again, I wouldnt say I have the right genetic shape to go IFBB pro. That sound right?[/quote]

You aren’t developed enough to be that set on how your genetics for symmetry and shape will play out. That is what I was telling you before. I have no doubt that some people around you may be filling your head with “wow, your gigantic” statements, but much of that is because since the mid-90’s, there have been far fewer really big guys walking around…which means anyone with ANY amount of size on them AT ALL is going to have sedentary people calling them huge.

Once again, it is plain to see that you alone will hold yourself back. You have already accepted your limitations before you ever got close to them. You will end up one of those guys never gets much beyond where you are now because you will focus way too much on competing while ignoring that you could have made much more progress had you realized early on that you were just getting started and never did have weak genetics.

Bodybuilding is also about illusion, not simply being born already built and already well put together.

That’s all I will say about this. I’ve seen quite a few guys like you since I first started training. You might as well be a carbon copy…unless there is some small chance of you actually listening.

Stay in school.[/quote]

I’m listening bro, I was not arguing w. you at all. I was interested in what you had to say. Just making discussion. Its not that I’m limiting myself, more that I am just intrigued by genetics, but I do like what you said. I don’t compete that often… I take a full year off in-between shows… Did 3 in a row at the end of 2009 succesfully, but thats it. I am well aware I have a lot more to go for sure! I just enjoy competing, and it has gone well so far.

My one and only reason for not full-on dirty bulkin now is because I am no spokes modelling for RTN, and building my career in modelling/fitness modelling, which is more importiant to me than competing at the moment, being a path to income, and career. (Spokesmodelling+PR more than modelling).

But trust me man, I am all about learning more and more, which is why I brough up all of that to you. I have seen your posts, and respect the amount of knowlege and experience you have, and just wanted to hear your input. I have only been competing for 4-5 years, I am well aware of my possition. I’m all ears man. And again, I did not MEAN for this thread to come off as “I am the best, check me out” etc., it was my fault for posting it like I did, because that is honestly not what I was aiming for… It was more to just promote the channel, but I realize I went about it wrong.

Thanks though.[/quote]

I actually think you may have a lot of potential. I just also think you haven’t even come close to it so bragging about where you are now isn’t going to go over well if people see it that way. Good luck with the modeling.[/quote]

Definitly. I hear you, and liked what you said in your prior post on genetics.
Thanks again.

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You are obviously in good shape and deserve recognition for that. Don’t worry about the negativity on this site, some of the people who’ve attacked you don’t look nearly as good I bet. Sometimes overly harsh criticism is born out of jealousy. Keep up the good work you’re only 18 years old and look at what you’ve accomplished, I’m impressed.

All the best,

Zeb

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
You are obviously in good shape and deserve recognition for that. Don’t worry about the negativity on this site, some of the people who’ve attacked you don’t look nearly as good I bet. Sometimes overly harsh criticism is born out of jealousy. Keep up the good work you’re only 18 years old and look at what you’ve accomplished, I’m impressed.

All the best,

Zeb[/quote]

Thanks Zeb, I appreciate it man. BUT I fully admit to rubbing people the wrong way on this paticular thread. I had no intention of comming off concieted, but managed to accidentally do so, and I would be annoyed if I saw that as well, and I do appologize for it.

Thanks though bro.

N.

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OK, im sorry, your sorry, everyone is sorry.
Now lets start posting some hardcore training vids.

Sorry I dont get youtube at work to contribute.

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[quote]Papa Nick wrote:
OK, im sorry, your sorry, everyone is sorry.
Now lets start posting some hardcore training vids.

Sorry I dont get youtube at work to contribute.[/quote]

Just filmed one today down in CT with Alpha Design + Beatdown Productions… Me, another Teen BB, and a JR from NY. It was in an awesome gym… Should come out pretty sick once it is all edited, put together, and sent to me to upload etc. They’re comming.

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@Nick W.
Just out of curiosity, you keep mentioning that you have long limbs.
How wide is your wingspan?

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[quote]ghdtpdna wrote:
@Nick W.
Just out of curiosity, you keep mentioning that you have long limbs.
How wide is your wingspan?
[/quote]

You know, I don’t actually know… I measured once a long time ago, but don’t remember and have probably grown since then anyway. Arms straight down, my finger tips are right near my knees, but I carry myself so that’s not so obvious.

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]Papa Nick wrote:
OK, im sorry, your sorry, everyone is sorry.
Now lets start posting some hardcore training vids.

Sorry I dont get youtube at work to contribute.[/quote]

Just filmed one today down in CT with Alpha Design + Beatdown Productions… Me, another Teen BB, and a JR from NY. It was in an awesome gym… Should come out pretty sick once it is all edited, put together, and sent to me to upload etc. They’re comming.[/quote]

He’s not asking about your “sick” training videos, he’s telling everyone else to post hardcore training videos of hardcore pros.

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]ghdtpdna wrote:
@Nick W.
Just out of curiosity, you keep mentioning that you have long limbs.
How wide is your wingspan?
[/quote]

You know, I don’t actually know… I measured once a long time ago, but don’t remember and have probably grown since then anyway. Arms straight down, my finger tips are right near my knees, but I carry myself so that’s not so obvious.[/quote]
Hmm those are some long-ass arms.
Mine come down to about 2~3 inches above me knees and I have 6ft6 wingspan at 6ft2.
I was asking because you mentioned in one of your videos that you don’t bench press all the way down since it does no good for someone with long arms. I believe you said that you are 5ft8 and probably do not have longer arms than me. I feel more chest engagement (I am not saying here that bench press is the best chest building exercise) when I am going all the way down and up to 3/4 way. If you fee that benching all the way does not work for you, why don’t you just drop it and do DB’s or something else?

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[quote]ghdtpdna wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:

[quote]ghdtpdna wrote:
@Nick W.
Just out of curiosity, you keep mentioning that you have long limbs.
How wide is your wingspan?
[/quote]

You know, I don’t actually know… I measured once a long time ago, but don’t remember and have probably grown since then anyway. Arms straight down, my finger tips are right near my knees, but I carry myself so that’s not so obvious.[/quote]
Hmm those are some long-ass arms.
Mine come down to about 2~3 inches above me knees and I have 6ft6 wingspan at 6ft2.
I was asking because you mentioned in one of your videos that you don’t bench press all the way down since it does no good for someone with long arms. I believe you said that you are 5ft8 and probably do not have longer arms than me. I feel more chest engagement (I am not saying here that bench press is the best chest building exercise) when I am going all the way down and up to 3/4 way. If you fee that benching all the way does not work for you, why don’t you just drop it and do DB’s or something else?[/quote]

That method was specifically for the final weef before a show to keep all tention off my joints when dieted that far down. Reguarly, I DO go right down to my chest, since I have more cushioning on my rotator cufs. And yes I am about 5’7", and have actually been focussing on DB as of late.