[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
Society defined sex roles do not exist anymore…like the good wife and the working husband. Physical sex roles do and we can not change that.
Do you think that those societal sex roles just might have developed to complement the physical sex roles that we cannot change?[/quote]
Probably. It makes sense. But Americans are really changing this.
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
Society defined sex roles do not exist anymore…like the good wife and the working husband. Physical sex roles do and we can not change that.
Do you think that those societal sex roles just might have developed to complement the physical sex roles that we cannot change?[/quote]
In large part, yes. They are also being redefined in large part.
Darth Vader had it right.
[quote]DAN C wrote:
And here is SicTorn`s nemesis.[/quote]
Nice! 
I don’t know how on earth you found that, but it’s an interesting read.
I’m not really all big and tough and “do as I say bitch” in a relationship. I do go out of my way to make him happy and will take the time to buy the things he likes to eat and keep the house clean. Honestly in my last relationship (dating for 3 years) I don’t think we fought once. We always talked things out.
But he did things in return for me too. It’s about compromise and mutual respect and love. I don’t like the way the article and that website portray marriage because it’s not all about one person or the other. It’s not “father knows best” or “whatever you say dear.” My thoughts and opinions are just as important as his and he has to treat me just as nicely as I treat him. I’m not going to be someone’s slave just so I don’t rock the boat but I will buy his favorite beer or massage his shoulders when he gets home because I love him.
It’s all about clean socks and clean underwear.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
gottatrain wrote:
That’s funny, rockscar. I’ll be leaving the office in about 30 minutes and I know that it’s going to be sheer chaos when I get home. My 5-year-old boy and 2-year-old daughter will be literally bouncing off the walls going nuts. I’ll be married 10 years in October. If you’re even considering getting married you better learn the meaning of the word “COMPROMISE” and how to put yourself second. If you are unable to do these two things, do not make that commitment.
I have a 3 and 6 year old and have been married 8 years this October!
One of my biggest challenges upon arriving home from work is trying to read my wifes mind about all the stuff I should be doing. There is literally 30 things I can do for the household that day…but I have to decide which 5 can I actually do, and which ones score me he most bonus points! I frequently guess wrong.
For all single income Husbands this is one thing I’ve learned:
The fact that you work does NOT count in any domestic or relationship capacity AT ALL. You get to go to work and this is seen as an escape from "real life’…especially if you have kids. [/quote]
Dude, truer words were never spoken! Amen to that.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
It’s all about clean socks and clean underwear.
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I’m with you rainjack. Sic, you had to go and make this all serious? Compromise and mutual respect. Bah! (of course, you are right)
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
RankHypocrisy wrote:
Society defined sex roles do not exist anymore…like the good wife and the working husband. Physical sex roles do and we can not change that.
Do you think that those societal sex roles just might have developed to complement the physical sex roles that we cannot change?
Probably. It makes sense. But Americans are really changing this.[/quote]
Why are Americans changing this? If these social roles complement the physical roles, which you admit to be real, what is the impetus to change them?
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The difference between today and then is that it is more evident how much infidelity is occurring, whereas before it was more likely to be covered up, therefore festering.[/quote]
Or the difference could be that now a lot of infidelity is occurring, whereas before it was not. Would that not explain things just as well?
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
The difference between today and then is that it is more evident how much infidelity is occurring, whereas before it was more likely to be covered up, therefore festering.
Or the difference could be that now a lot of infidelity is occurring, whereas before it was not. Would that not explain things just as well?[/quote]
It would, only that’s not the case. Infidelity has and always will occur.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
When my wife complained about her hard pregnancy I told her I wish I could be pregnant for her. She said I probably would not be able to handle the pain…she said I’d get 1 cramp and kill myself.[/quote]
I have no problem giving credit where credit is due… but this is false. Women who’ve had both kidney stones and pregnancies claim that the kidney stones hurt more.
Not to say that pregnancy doesn’t have other considerable challenges! I doubt I’d be able to do it.
-Glee
[quote]Gleemonex wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
When my wife complained about her hard pregnancy I told her I wish I could be pregnant for her. She said I probably would not be able to handle the pain…she said I’d get 1 cramp and kill myself.
I have no problem giving credit where credit is due… but this is false. Women who’ve had both kidney stones and pregnancies claim that the kidney stones hurt more.
Not to say that pregnancy doesn’t have other considerable challenges! I doubt I’d be able to do it.
-Glee[/quote]
Good comparison. I’ve had neither; don’t plan to have either…Guess I should cut out the gosh darn protein…
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It would, only that’s not the case. Infidelity has and always will occur. [/quote]
I never claimed that infidelity did not occur. I challenged your assertion that there was more infidelity in the 50’s than there is today.
If you can prevent any evidence to back up your claim, please present it.
This is in all likelihood a hoax:
…and at it’s very best, of indeterminate origin.
My wife likes to talk dirty to me.
She talks dirty to me all the time.
She says…
FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE a lot.
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
It would, only that’s not the case. Infidelity has and always will occur.
I never claimed that infidelity did not occur. I challenged your assertion that there was more infidelity in the 50’s than there is today.
If you can prevent any evidence to back up your claim, please present it.[/quote]
Who knows? More, less, the same. It’s not something to argue about. By it’s nature, infidelity is something that’s hidden (sometimes succesfully). It’s unlikely we know how much there is today much less 50 years ago.
Hey, there was one good piece of advice in there.
The minute you (anyone, either man or woman) walk in the door from work is not the time to get peppered with issues.
It’s hard to resist, since one may have kept issues bottled up all day, but damn, if you walk in the door and get peppered with bullshit its really hard not to get into an argument over little things.
Let the person coming home unwind a little bit, transition from work to home life, and then raise things in conversation, not a rush of issues that have to be solved immediately.
There, one for “today’s spouse”.
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
It would, only that’s not the case. Infidelity has and always will occur.
I never claimed that infidelity did not occur. I challenged your assertion that there was more infidelity in the 50’s than there is today.
If you can prevent any evidence to back up your claim, please present it.[/quote]
Actually, you did…
]RankHypocrisy wrote:
Or the difference could be that now a lot of infidelity is occurring, whereas before it was not. Would that not explain things just as well?
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
I challenged your assertion that there was more infidelity in the 50’s than there is today.
If you can prevent any evidence to back up your claim, please present it.[/quote]
Actually, I didn’t say there was more infidelity in the 50’s than now. Your above statement is the only testament to that. I said this…