Ok, yes I do agree with what you’re saying. What pissed me off is the bit about the man being the master of the house and lord and commander of the known universe and is not to be questioned. I wouldn’t play the part of a meek little woman who exists only to serve, no matter how much I loved my husband. It has to be an equal sharing of responsibilities and equal freedoms and respect for each other.
[quote]JPBear wrote:
I have seen this article before and I really like it. I’m sure it pisses a lot of people off, but I think there is a great message there. That message is that a happy marriage is one based on servanthood. That would apply to both spouses. While the specifics of the advice are a bit outdated, I would say the attitude of that wife is one that many people could learn from - myself included.
JP Bear - happily married for five years, with many more to come
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[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
th_underdog wrote:
Christ. No wonder there were so many skeletons in the closet and infidelity issues then. The only thing that’s changed is the divorce rate. I think I’d go crazy in that era.
Do you really believe there was more infidelity in the 50’s than today? I think you watch too much television.[/quote]
Dude, June Cleaver was the town whore…that was clear…we all saw that.
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Roles by sex do not really exist anymore.
So, you were pregnant with half of your children, and your wife was pregnant with the other half? Did you split the breastfeeding duties as well?[/quote]
Ha…funny. I change diapers dude. This is a no-no for the 50’d dad…I think.
When my wife complained about her hard pregnancy I told her I wish I could be pregnant for her. She said I probably would not be able to handle the pain…she said I’d get 1 cramp and kill myself.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
RankHypocrisy wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Roles by sex do not really exist anymore.
So, you were pregnant with half of your children, and your wife was pregnant with the other half? Did you split the breastfeeding duties as well?
Ha…funny. I change diapers dude. This is a no-no for the 50’d dad…I think.
When my wife complained about her hard pregnancy I told her I wish I could be pregnant for her. She said I probably would not be able to handle the pain…she said I’d get 1 cramp and kill myself.[/quote]
You’re a good husband. But you’re wife’s probably right about pregnancy. Of course us guys only say that because there’s no way we could actually become pregnant. Lol.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Roles by sex do not really exist anymore. In other words, today we have couples who have carrers and each couple must define their respective roles based on mutual understanding and giving. There is no media defined sex role any longer.
I thought I’d toss it out since I found it funny because life can not be like this, and who could ever be happy living by a societies defenition of a standard household.
Marriage is a 2 way street.
I’m greeted with problems immediately upon entry into my house. It’s the girls fighting, wife pissed that I did not clean or do something…etc.
I do a lot of cooking now too. I make sure I share in cleaning and doing dishes, watching the kids, baths for the kids etc.
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That’s funny, rockscar. I’ll be leaving the office in about 30 minutes and I know that it’s going to be sheer chaos when I get home. My 5-year-old boy and 2-year-old daughter will be literally bouncing off the walls going nuts. I’ll be married 10 years in October. If you’re even considering getting married you better learn the meaning of the word “COMPROMISE” and how to put yourself second. If you are unable to do these two things, do not make that commitment.
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Hilarious. I was looking through an old book I found on the shelf on how to raise an obedient child and it was totally Nazi. It’s scary how desperate people used to be to conform to societal norms.[/quote]
People are just as anxious to conform to societal norms as ever. It’s just that those norms have changed.
Now it’s cool to be ‘tolerant’; it used not to not. Now it’s cool to be a libertine; it used not to be.
That’s funny, rockscar. I’ll be leaving the office in about 30 minutes and I know that it’s going to be sheer chaos when I get home. My 5-year-old boy and 2-year-old daughter will be literally bouncing off the walls going nuts. I’ll be married 10 years in October. If you’re even considering getting married you better learn the meaning of the word “COMPROMISE” and how to put yourself second. If you are unable to do these two things, do not make that commitment.
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I have a 3 and 6 year old and have been married 8 years this October!
One of my biggest challenges upon arriving home from work is trying to read my wifes mind about all the stuff I should be doing. There is literally 30 things I can do for the household that day…but I have to decide which 5 can I actually do, and which ones score me he most bonus points! I frequently guess wrong.
For all single income Husbands this is one thing I’ve learned:
The fact that you work does NOT count in any domestic or relationship capacity AT ALL. You get to go to work and this is seen as an escape from "real life’…especially if you have kids.
[quote]RankHypocrisy wrote:
th_underdog wrote:
Christ. No wonder there were so many skeletons in the closet and infidelity issues then. The only thing that’s changed is the divorce rate. I think I’d go crazy in that era.
Do you really believe there was more infidelity in the 50’s than today? I think you watch too much television.[/quote]
The difference between today and then is that it is more evident how much infidelity is occurring, whereas before it was more likely to be covered up, therefore festering. In my post I was refering to the dissonance that would result from one or two people in a relationship confined to acting a certain way without there being any leeway in important matters such as free thought, will, etc.
But I was thinking more about how relationship dynamics affect the household, but didn’t write a word about it. I guess what I should have said in previous post is that husbands and wives who seperate and cease to live together are less likely to beat each other in front of their kids. In any event I am single and never married and most of the other posts in the forum look more “on topic.”
Quite interesting indeed. heehee.