1965 vs. 2006

I usually delete forwarded mail, but this was interesting.

1965 versus 2006

Scenario: Parents take cute pictures of their 2 year-old playing in the tub.

1965 Parents go to Walgreen’s, get them developed, and put them in the child’s picture album which is shared with friends and relatives.
2006 Parents reported by Walgreen’s to the Police, arrested for child pornography, and child sent to foster care.

Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1965 Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack’s rifle, goes to his car, and gets his own to show Jack.
2006 School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1965 Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody is arrested, nobody is expelled.
2006 Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won’t be still in class; disrupts other students.

1965 Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the school principal. Sits still in class from then on.
2006 Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping.

1965 Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2006 Billy’s Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy’s sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused by her Dad, and their Dad goes to prison. Billy’s mom has affair with psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and his Mother gives him some aspirin to take to school.

1965 Mark’s headache persists. He goes to his locker, gets a couple of aspirin and takes them at the water fountain.
2006 Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Mary turns up pregnant.

1965 Several high school boys leave town. Mary does her senior year at a special school for expectant mothers.
2006 Middle school counselor calls Planned Parenthood, who notifies the ACLU. Mary is driven to the next state over the border and gets an abortion without her parent’s consent or knowledge. Mary given condoms and told to be more careful next time.

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1965 Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2006 Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files a class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro’s English teacher. English banned from core curriculum as a required course. Pedro is given diploma any way, but ends up mowing lawns and washing dishes for a living because he can’t speak English.

Scenario: Jimmy takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a fire-ant hill.

1965 Ants die.
2006 BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism. FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny’s Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Are these scenarios actual events?

heres a good one

Kid doing poorly in schoo:
1965: parents go in and discuss the matter with the teacher/principle

2007: parents go in and beat the principle into submission…because heaven forbid it be the dumbass kids fault hes doing poorly

sad thing is it actually happened…stupid parents

I agree with you mostly. We’ve gone way overboard. But that because when a child was really molested back in 1965, it got covered up or ignored. I rather have an initial overreaction than no reaction.

[quote]sugarfree wrote:
I agree with you mostly. We’ve gone way overboard. But that because when a child was really molested back in 1965, it got covered up or ignored. I rather have an initial overreaction than no reaction.[/quote]

I don’t know - that sonds a bit like punishing everyone to make sure the truly guilty get their due.

1962:Man caught sodomizing 7 year old…My Dad and posse threw the MF off apt. building roof…No prosecutions…

[quote]rainjack wrote:
sugarfree wrote:
I agree with you mostly. We’ve gone way overboard. But that because when a child was really molested back in 1965, it got covered up or ignored. I rather have an initial overreaction than no reaction.

I don’t know - that sonds a bit like punishing everyone to make sure the truly guilty get their due.

[/quote]

It’s overhyped. Many of these ‘tough talking nostlgia folks’ lately. “Hey, you remember how back in the day everything was great and now it’s all gone to shit…blah.” It’s not that bad and there was just as much bullshit ‘then’ as it is now. It’s the form of bullshit that changes. Bullshit gets with the times, unlike some people.

[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
1962:Man caught sodomizing 7 year old…My Dad and posse threw the MF off apt. building roof…No prosecutions…
rainjack wrote:
sugarfree wrote:
I agree with you mostly. We’ve gone way overboard. But that because when a child was really molested back in 1965, it got covered up or ignored. I rather have an initial overreaction than no reaction.

I don’t know - that sonds a bit like punishing everyone to make sure the truly guilty get their due.

[/quote]

That’s awful, the man was obviously very sick. Throwing him off a building doesn’t fix the problem, it just makes it go away. What he really needed was a nice 6 week vacation in “counseling” after which some dumbshit doctor would declare him fit to return to normal society so he could molest more children (so long as he told all the neighbors he was a sex offender and didn’t live within a mile of a school, playground, or church, cus sex offenders can’t, ya know, DRIVE there or anything).

</nasty sarcasm>

Jay

p.s. your dad’s now on my hero list.

These are the good old days. The way around that? Make tomorrow better. Repeat

[quote]Majin wrote:
It’s overhyped. Many of these ‘tough talking nostlgia folks’ lately. “Hey, you remember how back in the day everything was great and now it’s all gone to shit…blah.” It’s not that bad and there was just as much bullshit ‘then’ as it is now. It’s the form of bullshit that changes. Bullshit gets with the times, unlike some people.[/quote]

sure

[quote]Majin wrote:
It’s overhyped. Many of these ‘tough talking nostlgia folks’ lately. “Hey, you remember how back in the day everything was great and now it’s all gone to shit…blah.” It’s not that bad and there was just as much bullshit ‘then’ as it is now. It’s the form of bullshit that changes. Bullshit gets with the times, unlike some people.[/quote]

I’m not saying everything was great in the 1960s at all. I just thought this e-mail reflected how our society has changed a lot and is constantly changing. I’m 18, I wasn’t even around in the 70s. I did not type this whole thing up, it was just an e-mail sent to me. I thought it was interesting and wanted to see what other people thought about it.

[quote]Majin wrote:
It’s overhyped. Many of these ‘tough talking nostlgia folks’ lately. “Hey, you remember how back in the day everything was great and now it’s all gone to shit…blah.” It’s not that bad and there was just as much bullshit ‘then’ as it is now. It’s the form of bullshit that changes. Bullshit gets with the times, unlike some people.[/quote]

Complaints about “kids these days” and “society is going to shit” show up in Thucydides and Tacitus from what I recall. Apparently it’s a timeless sentiment.

Question for the older folk:
If someone else’s kid gave me lip back in the 50’s, would I, as a stranger, be considered in the right if I gave the little fucker a beating?

[quote]rainjack wrote:
sugarfree wrote:
I agree with you mostly. We’ve gone way overboard. But that because when a child was really molested back in 1965, it got covered up or ignored. I rather have an initial overreaction than no reaction.

I don’t know - that sonds a bit like punishing everyone to make sure the truly guilty get their due.[/quote]

Today’s rules are written by politicians afraid of being sued by lawyers that realize common sense does not count.

1965 - Abusive parents don’t get reported.
2006 - Abusive parent get reported but get kids back because they get a lawyer.

I kind of feel like I have shifted from the original post to my own rant. Life will stick it to you no matter what decade you live in. At least now, it looks like we are making an attempt to fix things.

1965: Selma to Montgomery marches. 600 non-violent civil rights marchers were attacked by police with tear gas and clubs after the Governor of the state said he would do everything in his power to stop it.

2006: The first black presidential candidate with a chance to win recreates the march.

1965: The United States starts bombing North Vietnam and lands Marines in South Vietnam.

2006: The Vietnam war is looked at as the single greatest military failure in the history of the United States.

1965: Malcolm X is assassinated.

2006: Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are sitting somewhere in an empty building waiting to be brought in for a cable news debate.

1965: Fidel Castro declares war on the President of Cuba. Che Guevara leaves afterwards.

2006: Fidel Castro runs a communist haven of drug smuggling with many humans rights violations and is considered an enemy of most first world countries.

2006 People get to discuss things like this on the internet
1965 Peopple say what the fuck is the internet?

Scenario: Jeffrey won’t be still in class; disrupts other students.

1965 Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the school principal. Sits still in class from then on.
2006 Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

I am very proud to say that my father went to a catholic high school in the 70’s, and they tried to hit him with a paddle, at which point he broke the teachers nose.

I don’t care what others think, but when its acceptable to administer physical pain on someone to force their compliance (BARRING PARENTS!!!), something is definently wrong with the system. And I think that anyone that chose to hit back would be completely and totally justified. I am mighty proud of my father.

But, as long as you all think its ok to hit people just because there not acting the way you want them too, I need to get me a good, solid baseball bat.

If you REALLY think about it…nostalgia…or feeling that there was a “good 'ole days” requires a helluva’ lot of what I call “selective amnesia”.

The truth is that some things may have seemed to go overboard and for the worse…while there are things that are a LOT better…

1965: NO home computers; no access to unlimited amounts of the sum total of Human Knowledge; NO internet; NO forums…

No cell phones; 3 networks; and a Country STILL struggling with the ideals of its Constitution…

“Do we REALLY find these truths to be self evident…?”

Cool to contemplate…but no way in hell we are better off by “going back…”

Mufasa

One other thought:

The workplace must have been a miserable place in many ways for women and the disabled…

Sure…women and the disabled worked in 1965…but think about what it must have been like for many without some of the Federal Protections we have today.

Mufasa

Driving while black was a felony,
Cops could shoot a fleeing felon
If you weren’t passed out, you were under the legal blood alcohol limit to drive, and if you did get pulled over, they MIGHT write you a ticket for innatentive driving.
The country was becoming embrolied in the vietnam war.
Cops could hit anybody they wanted to when making an arrest.
I bet that gas, beef and beer were cheaper back then, but there were probably fewer jobs.

On the positive side, getting laid was much, much easier.

[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Driving while black was a felony,
Cops could shoot a fleeing felon
If you weren’t passed out, you were under the legal blood alcohol limit to drive, and if you did get pulled over, they MIGHT write you a ticket for innatentive driving.
The country was becoming embrolied in the vietnam war.
Cops could hit anybody they wanted to when making an arrest.
I bet that gas, beef and beer were cheaper back then, but there were probably fewer jobs.

On the positive side, getting laid was much, much easier.[/quote]

Best.Post.

How many people would honestly want to wake up and find it to be 1965?