To Professor X

Training Bodybuilding
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I got a text message from one of the guys at the gym I haven’t seen or spoken to in a long time. He’s a big guy. He said he was watching the vids and had his friends watching as well. That is what is really cool…because I didn’t even tell him about the site I don’t think.

The morning session was rough for me because I don’t like giving up on things…and it felt like my body wouldn’t cooperate. Feeling like you can’t breath is scary. I think a full minute went by at one point where I was just wheezing and gasping for air. I made the mistake of worrying about what other people think.

From here on out, this is strictly for me. I don’t care if you think I am too proud or if you don’t think I am humble enough. Being me is why I have been able to do any of the shit I’ve done…and there will no doubt be people who hate you for it and those who love you for it when you tend to live life like you have a solid goal in mind and you won’t let others stop that.

I do appreciate the real criticism in this thread that was done without malice and bullshit. For the record, acting like I just ignored body parts for no reason and as if that effects my credibility is part of that bullshit.

People who act like that are a waste of my time.

I appreciate the comments Mauraudermeat even though we don’t always get along.

However, if anyone here has some attitude like I still need to be put in my place…just deal with it. I don’t plan in staying in “my place”…and my goal in life is not to be the most humble person in the world to all observers. If you don’t like me, fine. Quit watching the vids and put me on ignore and go about your business.

It isn’t like hate is slowing me down.

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I’m not hating, I bust everyone’s chops online and IRL and generally it is met with lols.

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Appreciate the effort and having the balls to do it.

As always I have learnt more for my own training and life.

All the best with the future training sessions.

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Damn, that leg session totally annihilated you, Prof. You looked like a beast sumo deadlifting. For someone who never done those, that was impressive. I hope you keep the sumo Dls in your legs session.

And regarding Thibs calling you Prof X, I laughed at that. Seriously. That was funny.

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Did C_C only post once in this thread?

:frowning:

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:

[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
I’m surprised to hear MODOK, someone who has competed, criticize Waylander for commenting on focusing on weak points. I’m still a beginner, but I figured after a couple years of serious, thoughtful training, you kinda figure out what grows easily, what doesn’t, and begin to address these discrepancies to achieve the best physique possible. Of course, some may not care to try to maximize their aesthetics and instead only care about size and the “brick house effect”, but I figured most that are into bodybuilding would.

I’m not a big fan of X’s condescending “tone” on the forums either, but I also find myself rooting for the guy. I hope this opportunity in CO gives you a chance to see how you appear to others and what you can do to make your physique the best it can be, or whatever your goals are. Maybe you still don’t care about being lean, but it’s amazing how much a decent level of leanness helps the appearance of one’s physique. and we all want to see you get there.

so good luck, work hard, and don’t take the haters too personally. k that’s all i got. back to the peanut gallery.
EDIT: oh, and nice job busting ass on today’s leg session. I felt like i was right there watching.[/quote]

I’m not criticizing Waylander or anyone else. I was just pointing out that X may have a different perspective on this whole bodybuilding thing. He may not care about weak points…or he might. I’ve never heard him comment on it. But if he doesn’t, it shouldn’t be a referendum on his accomplishments. I don’t give a shit about weak points, and even when I was getting on stage I didn’t give a shit about them. A “completely balanced physique” has never been why I’ve engaged in bodybuilding. I train everything hard, but if something is naturally out of proportion, then it just is. If you look on stage, everyone has something thats just fucking off a little. And walking around town less than zero people have a clue if you are proportioned. You are either a big, muscular, strong looking dude or you aren’t. Unless you are trying to win a title like Stu, or are a fitness model… why really worry about it? Especially at mine and X’s age and level of occupation. Bringing up the tibialis anterior really isn’t high on the priority list nowadays when you have a profession, mortgage to pay, and parents to take care of. [/quote]

To each their own then, I suppose. All I’m saying is that if you’re in the initial stages of building up your physique, or later on trying to “refine it”, you might want to train some things more often, with more volume, or more intensely than others. I believe there was a T-Cell thread about it…
Yes, most people just see you as big/muscular/lean/hooooooj/etc or not, but I know each time I look in the mirror or see pictures of myself, the weak points jump out and because of this, I train them with the same focus and attention, hoping to improve my physique.
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Dude, let me know when you can keep doing that in spite of an injury.

The average person would have quit lifting with the injuries I had. That triceps tear scared the shit out of me when it happened. I thought I would never be able to train again like I had. You don’t just ignore shit like that to make people online happy

That is why some of this criticism is just flat out wrong and off base.[/quote]

I don’t think Bug is criticizing you, just pointing out something that seems odd.

You have been doing this for 12-15 years if I can recall, and had many years to train before you incurred injuries. Bodybuilding isn’t about training the fun stuff or your strong points, it’s about building your body in its entirety, which you certainly know.

Take it less as criticism and more as a goal to work towards, if you even care. If not, then there’s absolutely nothing wrong with training to become a big dude, but unfortunately, that’s not only what bodybuildng is about.

We all have had injuries, some worse than others, and the way I see it, there’s always a way to train around them if you truly want to, you might just need to change up the way you hit something.

Just some thoughts.

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Well, I gotta say you’re clearly working your ass off there.

We don’t get along, and a lot of the criticism you’re receiving that’s not constructive is certainly because of the way you’ve treated others around here for so many years. As someone already mentioned respect goes both ways…

But that said, it does take balls and heart to put yourself out there to be filmed for thousands of people to see. And let’s not pretend that prowler work is a piece of cake. It’s obviously balls to the wall training that’s hard as hell, and I’m sure that most people would be sucking wind being put through training like that.

At 53 seconds into that last video you can clearly see that you’re digging real deep and giving it your all when you slam into the prowler there…

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[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:

[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
I’m surprised to hear MODOK, someone who has competed, criticize Waylander for commenting on focusing on weak points. I’m still a beginner, but I figured after a couple years of serious, thoughtful training, you kinda figure out what grows easily, what doesn’t, and begin to address these discrepancies to achieve the best physique possible. Of course, some may not care to try to maximize their aesthetics and instead only care about size and the “brick house effect”, but I figured most that are into bodybuilding would.

I’m not a big fan of X’s condescending “tone” on the forums either, but I also find myself rooting for the guy. I hope this opportunity in CO gives you a chance to see how you appear to others and what you can do to make your physique the best it can be, or whatever your goals are. Maybe you still don’t care about being lean, but it’s amazing how much a decent level of leanness helps the appearance of one’s physique. and we all want to see you get there.

so good luck, work hard, and don’t take the haters too personally. k that’s all i got. back to the peanut gallery.
EDIT: oh, and nice job busting ass on today’s leg session. I felt like i was right there watching.[/quote]

I’m not criticizing Waylander or anyone else. I was just pointing out that X may have a different perspective on this whole bodybuilding thing. He may not care about weak points…or he might. I’ve never heard him comment on it. But if he doesn’t, it shouldn’t be a referendum on his accomplishments. I don’t give a shit about weak points, and even when I was getting on stage I didn’t give a shit about them. A “completely balanced physique” has never been why I’ve engaged in bodybuilding. I train everything hard, but if something is naturally out of proportion, then it just is. If you look on stage, everyone has something thats just fucking off a little. And walking around town less than zero people have a clue if you are proportioned. You are either a big, muscular, strong looking dude or you aren’t. Unless you are trying to win a title like Stu, or are a fitness model… why really worry about it? Especially at mine and X’s age and level of occupation. Bringing up the tibialis anterior really isn’t high on the priority list nowadays when you have a profession, mortgage to pay, and parents to take care of. [/quote]

To each their own then, I suppose. All I’m saying is that if you’re in the initial stages of building up your physique, or later on trying to “refine it”, you might want to train some things more often, with more volume, or more intensely than others. I believe there was a T-Cell thread about it…
Yes, most people just see you as big/muscular/lean/hooooooj/etc or not, but I know each time I look in the mirror or see pictures of myself, the weak points jump out and because of this, I train them with the same focus and attention, hoping to improve my physique.
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Dude, let me know when you can keep doing that in spite of an injury.

The average person would have quit lifting with the injuries I had. That triceps tear scared the shit out of me when it happened. I thought I would never be able to train again like I had. You don’t just ignore shit like that to make people online happy

That is why some of this criticism is just flat out wrong and off base.[/quote]

I don’t think Bug is criticizing you, just pointing out something that seems odd.

You have been doing this for 12-15 years if I can recall, and had many years to train before you incurred injuries. Bodybuilding isn’t about training the fun stuff or your strong points, it’s about building your body in its entirety, which you certainly know.

Take it less as criticism and more as a goal to work towards, if you even care. If not, then there’s absolutely nothing wrong with training to become a big dude, but unfortunately, that’s not only what bodybuildng is about.

We all have had injuries, some worse than others, and the way I see it, there’s always a way to train around them if you truly want to, you might just need to change up the way you hit something.

Just some thoughts.
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The problem with that mentality is that there’s always a weakness. Proportion is a moving target and at any given time we all have imbalances. I’m strugling now with my own body dismorphia lol…

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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
just watched the vids. i was really hoping that CT would incorporate some Zercher lunges or some other variation. that would be very poetic. X and i have always disagreed about the whole machine/free weight thing. hopefully X can now see how important free weights are in creating a phyisique that’s balanced. I have nothing against machines for isolating specific muscles but for injury prevention, flexibility and muscular balance free weights are a necessity.

Also, the conditioning work that they are doing is spot on. My group does prowler pushing/pulling, tire flips and farmers walks routinely. These things allow one to get in better cardiovascular shape, lose fat while still mainitaining (and even gaining) muscular mass.

I really hope he sticks with it. I would love to hear that he went back to wherever he lifts and starts doing standing military presses, walking lunges and even (gasp) deadlifts. [/quote]

Its leg day again tomorrow. Meat - I’m going to seriously give those Zerchers a go but walking lunges. Fugeddabout it - My knees love me and I love them back!!

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[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:

[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
I’m surprised to hear MODOK, someone who has competed, criticize Waylander for commenting on focusing on weak points. I’m still a beginner, but I figured after a couple years of serious, thoughtful training, you kinda figure out what grows easily, what doesn’t, and begin to address these discrepancies to achieve the best physique possible. Of course, some may not care to try to maximize their aesthetics and instead only care about size and the “brick house effect”, but I figured most that are into bodybuilding would.

I’m not a big fan of X’s condescending “tone” on the forums either, but I also find myself rooting for the guy. I hope this opportunity in CO gives you a chance to see how you appear to others and what you can do to make your physique the best it can be, or whatever your goals are. Maybe you still don’t care about being lean, but it’s amazing how much a decent level of leanness helps the appearance of one’s physique. and we all want to see you get there.

so good luck, work hard, and don’t take the haters too personally. k that’s all i got. back to the peanut gallery.
EDIT: oh, and nice job busting ass on today’s leg session. I felt like i was right there watching.[/quote]

I’m not criticizing Waylander or anyone else. I was just pointing out that X may have a different perspective on this whole bodybuilding thing. He may not care about weak points…or he might. I’ve never heard him comment on it. But if he doesn’t, it shouldn’t be a referendum on his accomplishments. I don’t give a shit about weak points, and even when I was getting on stage I didn’t give a shit about them. A “completely balanced physique” has never been why I’ve engaged in bodybuilding. I train everything hard, but if something is naturally out of proportion, then it just is. If you look on stage, everyone has something thats just fucking off a little. And walking around town less than zero people have a clue if you are proportioned. You are either a big, muscular, strong looking dude or you aren’t. Unless you are trying to win a title like Stu, or are a fitness model… why really worry about it? Especially at mine and X’s age and level of occupation. Bringing up the tibialis anterior really isn’t high on the priority list nowadays when you have a profession, mortgage to pay, and parents to take care of. [/quote]

To each their own then, I suppose. All I’m saying is that if you’re in the initial stages of building up your physique, or later on trying to “refine it”, you might want to train some things more often, with more volume, or more intensely than others. I believe there was a T-Cell thread about it…
Yes, most people just see you as big/muscular/lean/hooooooj/etc or not, but I know each time I look in the mirror or see pictures of myself, the weak points jump out and because of this, I train them with the same focus and attention, hoping to improve my physique.
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Dude, let me know when you can keep doing that in spite of an injury.

The average person would have quit lifting with the injuries I had. That triceps tear scared the shit out of me when it happened. I thought I would never be able to train again like I had. You don’t just ignore shit like that to make people online happy

That is why some of this criticism is just flat out wrong and off base.[/quote]

I don’t think Bug is criticizing you, just pointing out something that seems odd.

You have been doing this for 12-15 years if I can recall, and had many years to train before you incurred injuries. Bodybuilding isn’t about training the fun stuff or your strong points, it’s about building your body in its entirety, which you certainly know.

Take it less as criticism and more as a goal to work towards, if you even care. If not, then there’s absolutely nothing wrong with training to become a big dude, but unfortunately, that’s not only what bodybuildng is about.

We all have had injuries, some worse than others, and the way I see it, there’s always a way to train around them if you truly want to, you might just need to change up the way you hit something.

Just some thoughts.
[/quote]

The problem with that mentality is that there’s always a weakness. Proportion is a moving target and at any given time we all have imbalances. I’m strugling now with my own body dismorphia lol…[/quote]

Of course we all have weak points, the goal is to try and push yourself to bring them up as much as you can.

Obviously no one will ever achieve absolutely perfect symmetry, but to think that simply because people will always have a weakness means that you ought not to focus on it is a bad mentality in my opinion.

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[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:

[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
I’m surprised to hear MODOK, someone who has competed, criticize Waylander for commenting on focusing on weak points. I’m still a beginner, but I figured after a couple years of serious, thoughtful training, you kinda figure out what grows easily, what doesn’t, and begin to address these discrepancies to achieve the best physique possible. Of course, some may not care to try to maximize their aesthetics and instead only care about size and the “brick house effect”, but I figured most that are into bodybuilding would.

I’m not a big fan of X’s condescending “tone” on the forums either, but I also find myself rooting for the guy. I hope this opportunity in CO gives you a chance to see how you appear to others and what you can do to make your physique the best it can be, or whatever your goals are. Maybe you still don’t care about being lean, but it’s amazing how much a decent level of leanness helps the appearance of one’s physique. and we all want to see you get there.

so good luck, work hard, and don’t take the haters too personally. k that’s all i got. back to the peanut gallery.
EDIT: oh, and nice job busting ass on today’s leg session. I felt like i was right there watching.[/quote]

I’m not criticizing Waylander or anyone else. I was just pointing out that X may have a different perspective on this whole bodybuilding thing. He may not care about weak points…or he might. I’ve never heard him comment on it. But if he doesn’t, it shouldn’t be a referendum on his accomplishments. I don’t give a shit about weak points, and even when I was getting on stage I didn’t give a shit about them. A “completely balanced physique” has never been why I’ve engaged in bodybuilding. I train everything hard, but if something is naturally out of proportion, then it just is. If you look on stage, everyone has something thats just fucking off a little. And walking around town less than zero people have a clue if you are proportioned. You are either a big, muscular, strong looking dude or you aren’t. Unless you are trying to win a title like Stu, or are a fitness model… why really worry about it? Especially at mine and X’s age and level of occupation. Bringing up the tibialis anterior really isn’t high on the priority list nowadays when you have a profession, mortgage to pay, and parents to take care of. [/quote]

To each their own then, I suppose. All I’m saying is that if you’re in the initial stages of building up your physique, or later on trying to “refine it”, you might want to train some things more often, with more volume, or more intensely than others. I believe there was a T-Cell thread about it…
Yes, most people just see you as big/muscular/lean/hooooooj/etc or not, but I know each time I look in the mirror or see pictures of myself, the weak points jump out and because of this, I train them with the same focus and attention, hoping to improve my physique.
[/quote]

Dude, let me know when you can keep doing that in spite of an injury.

The average person would have quit lifting with the injuries I had. That triceps tear scared the shit out of me when it happened. I thought I would never be able to train again like I had. You don’t just ignore shit like that to make people online happy

That is why some of this criticism is just flat out wrong and off base.[/quote]

I don’t think Bug is criticizing you, just pointing out something that seems odd.

You have been doing this for 12-15 years if I can recall, and had many years to train before you incurred injuries. Bodybuilding isn’t about training the fun stuff or your strong points, it’s about building your body in its entirety, which you certainly know.

Take it less as criticism and more as a goal to work towards, if you even care. If not, then there’s absolutely nothing wrong with training to become a big dude, but unfortunately, that’s not only what bodybuildng is about.

We all have had injuries, some worse than others, and the way I see it, there’s always a way to train around them if you truly want to, you might just need to change up the way you hit something.

Just some thoughts.
[/quote]

The problem with that mentality is that there’s always a weakness. Proportion is a moving target and at any given time we all have imbalances. I’m strugling now with my own body dismorphia lol…[/quote]

…which is what they seem to be missing.

No one is riding Waylander about his big weaknesses. Yet here, they are acting like any weakness they see needs to be treated like I need a huge lesson or as if they HOPE it humbles me.

The only weakness brought to my attention I didn’t know of was CT’s comment. Everything else was already known and it is very easy to armchair quarterback when you don’t experience the pain in training.

That triceps tear happened after I bought my last bike…which means it was about 2006. To then act like my triceps shouldn’t be lagging is retarded if you really knew what I went through just for them to look the way they do now.

Very few bodybuilders on stage are fucking perfect…and the ones who are, are likely already pros.

Everyone has some weaknesses. I think it is the “see, humble yourself due to all you need to work on” attitude that is funny to me instead of really trying to assist anything.

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[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
just watched the vids. i was really hoping that CT would incorporate some Zercher lunges or some other variation. that would be very poetic. X and i have always disagreed about the whole machine/free weight thing. hopefully X can now see how important free weights are in creating a phyisique that’s balanced. I have nothing against machines for isolating specific muscles but for injury prevention, flexibility and muscular balance free weights are a necessity.

Also, the conditioning work that they are doing is spot on. My group does prowler pushing/pulling, tire flips and farmers walks routinely. These things allow one to get in better cardiovascular shape, lose fat while still mainitaining (and even gaining) muscular mass.

I really hope he sticks with it. I would love to hear that he went back to wherever he lifts and starts doing standing military presses, walking lunges and even (gasp) deadlifts. [/quote]

Its leg day again tomorrow. Meat - I’m going to seriously give those Zerchers a go but walking lunges. Fugeddabout it - My knees love me and I love them back!!
[/quote]

what CT did with them with the kettlebell held in front of them while they did their walking lunges is similiar to a walking zercher. IMO, if anything, having the weight in front of you while doing walking lunges will force you to keep a more upright position. most people want to lean forward to allow the quads to rest a bit when they start burning. if you have a weight in front of you, you can’t lean forward without dropping it.

It also makes the core, upper back and arms work a lot to hold the weight in that upright position. forcing you to stay upright will protect the knees. it allows the lower leg to remain in a perpendicular position. if you start to lean forward you can’t maintain that perpendicular lower leg position and a lot of undue stress is placed on the knees.

give them a try. you might just like it.

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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
just watched the vids. i was really hoping that CT would incorporate some Zercher lunges or some other variation. that would be very poetic. X and i have always disagreed about the whole machine/free weight thing. hopefully X can now see how important free weights are in creating a phyisique that’s balanced. I have nothing against machines for isolating specific muscles but for injury prevention, flexibility and muscular balance free weights are a necessity.

Also, the conditioning work that they are doing is spot on. My group does prowler pushing/pulling, tire flips and farmers walks routinely. These things allow one to get in better cardiovascular shape, lose fat while still mainitaining (and even gaining) muscular mass.

I really hope he sticks with it. I would love to hear that he went back to wherever he lifts and starts doing standing military presses, walking lunges and even (gasp) deadlifts. [/quote]

Its leg day again tomorrow. Meat - I’m going to seriously give those Zerchers a go but walking lunges. Fugeddabout it - My knees love me and I love them back!!
[/quote]

what CT did with them with the kettlebell held in front of them while they did their walking lunges is similiar to a walking zercher. IMO, if anything, having the weight in front of you while doing walking lunges will force you to keep a more upright position. most people want to lean forward to allow the quads to rest a bit when they start burning. if you have a weight in front of you, you can’t lean forward without dropping it. It also makes the core, upper back and arms work a lot to hold the weight in that upright position. forcing you to stay upright will protect the knees. it allows the lower leg to remain in a perpendicular position. if you start to lean forward you can’t maintain that perpendicular lower leg position and a lot of undue stress is placed on the knees.

give them a try. you might just like it.
[/quote]

Yeah…the difference here, is that CT wanted this all done as ONE SET…push the prowler, do the lunges, push the prowler again, kettlebell squats, push the prowler again, then kettlebell swings.

That was ONE SET. That was why my form was off on lunges…by that point, I had no air and was already hitting that attack.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Damn, that leg session totally annihilated you, Prof. You looked like a beast sumo deadlifting. For someone who never done those, that was impressive. I hope you keep the sumo Dls in your legs session.

And regarding Thibs calling you Prof X, I laughed at that. Seriously. That was funny.[/quote]

He really started to come alive when he was sumo deadlifting quite entertaining to watch. I hope Prof x takes away the importance of free weight exercise.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
What I really want to know is; how are you and Chris Shugart getting along? haha

My guess is it’s easier in real life than on a message board :)[/quote]

We haven’t debated about anything, that’s why and he is a professional. I am also sure we are not that different as far as attitude…which is bound to clash no matter what.

It isn’t like we ran in with boxing gloves on…even though that might make quite a video.[/quote]

And make Jelena the ring card girl…hell i would cough up some cash for that on PPV, other than that i won’t get into the BS debate…other than to say that having to turn your head to the side 90 degrees during that press seems totally retarded and for the life of me i can’t see why he made you do it, seems like a thoracic injury just waiting to happen. i owuld say you made the best out of a horrible exercise.

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[quote]morepain wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
What I really want to know is; how are you and Chris Shugart getting along? haha

My guess is it’s easier in real life than on a message board :)[/quote]

We haven’t debated about anything, that’s why and he is a professional. I am also sure we are not that different as far as attitude…which is bound to clash no matter what.

It isn’t like we ran in with boxing gloves on…even though that might make quite a video.[/quote]

And make Jelena the ring card girl…hell i would cough up some cash for that on PPV, other than that i won’t get into the BS debate…other than to say that having to turn your head to the side 90 degrees during that press seems totally retarded and for the life of me i can’t see why he made you do it, seems like a thoracic injury just waiting to happen. i owuld say you made the best out of a horrible exercise. [/quote]

Thank you. Honestly, the way the shooting schedule was, I can see why he just left it. There was no time for set up. Had we done that, I probably would have just done them standing since I don’t think they have a half bench.

The last time I did that exercise, I knew exactly where the bench should go, hand placement and positioning. All of that had to be changed here…and it had to be changed with a camera on me and a few thousand people watching.

Everyone who thinks they would do so much better is lying to themselves.

I have never unracked a weight several inches back from the bar. The fact that I did lift it off anyway should tell people I’m not weak.

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[quote]morepain wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
What I really want to know is; how are you and Chris Shugart getting along? haha

My guess is it’s easier in real life than on a message board :)[/quote]

We haven’t debated about anything, that’s why and he is a professional. I am also sure we are not that different as far as attitude…which is bound to clash no matter what.

It isn’t like we ran in with boxing gloves on…even though that might make quite a video.[/quote]

And make Jelena the ring card girl…hell i would cough up some cash for that on PPV, other than that i won’t get into the BS debate…other than to say that having to turn your head to the side 90 degrees during that press seems totally retarded and for the life of me i can’t see why he made you do it, seems like a thoracic injury just waiting to happen. i owuld say you made the best out of a horrible exercise. [/quote]

I personally thought the setup was fucked. He should have done it on a stool type bench with little or no back support just like branch warren. And the turning of the head looked unnatural.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
just watched the vids. i was really hoping that CT would incorporate some Zercher lunges or some other variation. that would be very poetic. X and i have always disagreed about the whole machine/free weight thing. hopefully X can now see how important free weights are in creating a phyisique that’s balanced. I have nothing against machines for isolating specific muscles but for injury prevention, flexibility and muscular balance free weights are a necessity.

Also, the conditioning work that they are doing is spot on. My group does prowler pushing/pulling, tire flips and farmers walks routinely. These things allow one to get in better cardiovascular shape, lose fat while still mainitaining (and even gaining) muscular mass.

I really hope he sticks with it. I would love to hear that he went back to wherever he lifts and starts doing standing military presses, walking lunges and even (gasp) deadlifts. [/quote]

Its leg day again tomorrow. Meat - I’m going to seriously give those Zerchers a go but walking lunges. Fugeddabout it - My knees love me and I love them back!!
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what CT did with them with the kettlebell held in front of them while they did their walking lunges is similiar to a walking zercher. IMO, if anything, having the weight in front of you while doing walking lunges will force you to keep a more upright position. most people want to lean forward to allow the quads to rest a bit when they start burning. if you have a weight in front of you, you can’t lean forward without dropping it. It also makes the core, upper back and arms work a lot to hold the weight in that upright position. forcing you to stay upright will protect the knees. it allows the lower leg to remain in a perpendicular position. if you start to lean forward you can’t maintain that perpendicular lower leg position and a lot of undue stress is placed on the knees.

give them a try. you might just like it.
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Yeah…the difference here, is that CT wanted this all done as ONE SET…push the prowler, do the lunges, push the prowler again, kettlebell squats, push the prowler again, then kettlebell swings.

That was ONE SET. That was why my form was off on lunges…by that point, I had no air and was already hitting that attack.[/quote]

i totally get that. the circuit work is really tough. i was commenting on Loudog’s post about protecting his knees, not your form. I feel that keeping the weight in front of you during a walking lung helps to reinforce the upright body position. it wasn’t a critique of your form.

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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

i totally get that. the circuit work is really tough. i was commenting on Loudog’s post about protecting his knees, not your form. I feel that keeping the weight in front of you during a walking lung helps to reinforce the upright body position. it wasn’t a critique of your form.
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OK.

It is hard to tell what angle some people are coming from in this thread.

What I really learned is that now I have to change my training around because what I was doing was good enough to get me here…but to take it further, needs me in a different place physically.

I thought my “cardio” was better than that until I got up here. I wouldn’t have been able to make it up the stairs in the condition I was a couple of months after that accident.

Deadlifts are now back in…because they look cool as shit and I would like to see how much I could when I can actually have time to breath in between sets.

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[quote]morepain wrote:

And make Jelena the ring card girl… [/quote]

I’m much more respectful and choose not to objectify her like that. I’d much rather learn from her training and see her ghr’s, stiff legged deadlifts, and cable flye’s I think I can learn a lot more.

X is she hotter in person?
(Maybe we’ll have a T-Nation Bachelorette Reality show next year)