[quote]Professor X wrote:
SSC, never even saw a prowler before…haven’t deadlifted in a decade…hadn’t done a barbell free overhead press since first starting. I found other movements that helped me get to this point with very little injury over the years.
Now, it looks like it is time for a change in strategy.
I lost a shit ton of fat in about 2.5 months.
It isn’t like I can’t do it.[/quote]
The sumo DLs didnt look half bad you should def. keep those in for a while
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Couple years ago went skiing with the family in Snowbird Utah…yeahhhhh bad idea. [/quote]
no way your giant ass skied anything. they dont even make ski runs big enough for 275lb skiers
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Yes they do they are called Sleds. [/quote]
hahahaha screw you guys
haters gonna hate. keep up that focus you’ve been showing in the vids and it will get harder and harder for the haters to find things to slam you for.
i know in the past you have commented on your stubborn calves. just out of curiosity, are they stubborn in strength too, or just in size? i find it very interesting how some people just naturally have ginormous calves and other people can train 'em to death with little success. it’s even more surprising in your case with the weight they support. it just doesn’t seem like any other body parts behave quite like this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
SSC, never even saw a prowler before…haven’t deadlifted in a decade…hadn’t done a barbell free overhead press since first starting. I found other movements that helped me get to this point with very little injury over the years.
Now, it looks like it is time for a change in strategy.
I lost a shit ton of fat in about 2.5 months.
It isn’t like I can’t do it.[/quote]
Best motivation that I have ever heard - “DF, you cant do it, just quit.”
I’m learnin a ton from these videos, keep up the good work X, and keep up the teaching CT
I’m surprised to hear MODOK, someone who has competed, criticize Waylander for commenting on focusing on weak points. I’m still a beginner, but I figured after a couple years of serious, thoughtful training, you kinda figure out what grows easily, what doesn’t, and begin to address these discrepancies to achieve the best physique possible. Of course, some may not care to try to maximize their aesthetics and instead only care about size and the “brick house effect”, but I figured most that are into bodybuilding would.
I’m not a big fan of X’s condescending “tone” on the forums either, but I also find myself rooting for the guy. I hope this opportunity in CO gives you a chance to see how you appear to others and what you can do to make your physique the best it can be, or whatever your goals are. Maybe you still don’t care about being lean, but it’s amazing how much a decent level of leanness helps the appearance of one’s physique. and we all want to see you get there.
so good luck, work hard, and don’t take the haters too personally. k that’s all i got. back to the peanut gallery.
EDIT: oh, and nice job busting ass on today’s leg session. I felt like i was right there watching.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Anyone who can help me reach that level? I am all ears.
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Im not here to be a prick at all.
I dont give a shit about the weight you use. But I do agree with other about your proportional imbalances.
I think youre at the point where it would serve you very well if you tightened up your form on a lot of movements that emphasize very specific muscle groups. Let’s be real here, youre probably not going to get much bigger at this point. I mean bigger in general. That doesnt mean you can’t add significant fullness to your triceps, which you badly need to balance out the front delt dominance.
Using momentum and body english is not productive for certain exercises as it tends to allow dominant muscle groups to take over. You know that. These videos are an insanely invaluable tool for you. No one has the ability for a camera man to film their sets from multiple angles. Better yet, you have CT doing the stuff right before to get ideas on how to make adjustments.
Now unless you have the triceps genetics of Marcus Rhul you should be able to make noticeable gains in the long head. Keeping the front delt from assisting an overhead extension or PJR pullover will take some discipline. It may not even be possible with the injury. But it’s worth the attempt, IMO
Yes waylander is a dick to X most of the time but his critique on X’s physique was spot on. Whether or not it was constructive criticism or done with malice is irrelevant. Nothing he said was made up and he was 100% accurate.
Not taking anything away from X but i think a lot of guys i guess expected more. I feel like X pretty much shed light on the importance of doing lateral raises and then you see the video and his medial delt is a weak point. Anyways he has great traps and anterior delts.
At this point in this thread i guess he knows what needs to be addressed but it just baffles me that it took this long for him to realize this. i mean you said your chest was a weak point and now it’s one of your strongest body parts. Just not sure why you didn’t realize that for rear delts and triceps so you could address them sooner.
I get caught up in the moment at times and i must admit i was talking to the screen while you were doing lunges. I was like “come on X, straighten your back, bring you knees lower to the ground”… lol I guess i was kinda rooting for you, although i did laugh when you said you need a break because you have asthma…lol
Bodybuilding encompasses a muscular well balanced physique not just size. Hopefully this was a humbling experience for you and you reevaluate your methods of training. I commend you for putting yourself out there especially with your reputation around these boards.
I learn a couple things:
Address weaknesses IMMEDIATELY. I’ve always said that but my argument get countered by bigger guys saying just worry about getting bigger and the imbalance will look less obvious. We now see that’s not the case.
Stick to the basics and free weights as much as you can.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
I don’t really have a preference, I just thought it was funny that he did that when he called everyone else by their real names. I guess a part of it is that I’m curious what your first name is.
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Why? What relevance in life would you need to know his first name? Not coming to his defense lord knows X can defend himself. But why cant he have or anybody have some privacy as a professional? [/quote]
Because it’s 2011 and this is the internet. Duh.
It would be funnier if CT switched back and forth between ‘Fro-presser X’ and the other iterations of the name that came with the avatars. lol [/quote]
Sorry Bones I forget and I guess the face palm is a big insult for the younger members.
Mr. whatever your name is and your gold medal avi, I apologize. I thought this topic has been covered many, many, many, many times. So for you to bring it up with what, some small hope that since you were asking X would reveal it to you? [/quote]
You lost? Get A Life Section --------------------------------------->[/quote]
Im old sometimes I wonder out to engage with the youth of today. It helps remind me why I think we should have forced military service for all 18-20 year olds. [/quote]
Cool story bro. In the future, engage with someone else. I have zero desire to get into pointless debates with you. If I did, I’d post in GAL.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
I don’t really have a preference, I just thought it was funny that he did that when he called everyone else by their real names. I guess a part of it is that I’m curious what your first name is.
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Why? What relevance in life would you need to know his first name? Not coming to his defense lord knows X can defend himself. But why cant he have or anybody have some privacy as a professional? [/quote]
Because it’s 2011 and this is the internet. Duh.
It would be funnier if CT switched back and forth between ‘Fro-presser X’ and the other iterations of the name that came with the avatars. lol [/quote]
Sorry Bones I forget and I guess the face palm is a big insult for the younger members.
Mr. whatever your name is and your gold medal avi, I apologize. I thought this topic has been covered many, many, many, many times. So for you to bring it up with what, some small hope that since you were asking X would reveal it to you? [/quote]
You lost? Get A Life Section --------------------------------------->[/quote]
Im old sometimes I wonder out to engage with the youth of today. It helps remind me why I think we should have forced military service for all 18-20 year olds. [/quote]
Cool story bro. In the future, engage with someone else. I have zero desire to get into pointless debates with you. If I did, I’d post in GAL.[/quote]
Hey, now.
When he wanders out to engage with the youth, he does it in blizzards.
Uphill, both ways.
So show some respek.
As much as people think I hate Prof X, I really don’t. I just see him as one of those guys that needs a reality check and me being blunt (like he is with everyone else) always causes a shit storm because he and others think I’m trying be an asshole but he refuses to listen to what anyone has to say if it comes off as criticism so it’s a never ending cycle.
Either way, to save the forums further bickering between us I’ve returned the favor and put him on ignore as well so we can all live happily ever after on these forums.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
I don’t really have a preference, I just thought it was funny that he did that when he called everyone else by their real names. I guess a part of it is that I’m curious what your first name is.
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Why? What relevance in life would you need to know his first name? Not coming to his defense lord knows X can defend himself. But why cant he have or anybody have some privacy as a professional? [/quote]
Because it’s 2011 and this is the internet. Duh.
It would be funnier if CT switched back and forth between ‘Fro-presser X’ and the other iterations of the name that came with the avatars. lol [/quote]
Sorry Bones I forget and I guess the face palm is a big insult for the younger members.
Mr. whatever your name is and your gold medal avi, I apologize. I thought this topic has been covered many, many, many, many times. So for you to bring it up with what, some small hope that since you were asking X would reveal it to you? [/quote]
You lost? Get A Life Section --------------------------------------->[/quote]
Im old sometimes I wonder out to engage with the youth of today. It helps remind me why I think we should have forced military service for all 18-20 year olds. [/quote]
Cool story bro. In the future, engage with someone else. I have zero desire to get into pointless debates with you. If I did, I’d post in GAL.[/quote]
Just a note from an outside observer…but several people are trying to tell you the exact same thing.
I do find it funny how many are concerned with whether this was a “humbling experience” when they refuse to take any advice about themselves.
[quote]angus_beef wrote:
Yes waylander is a dick to X most of the time but his critique on X’s physique was spot on. Whether or not it was constructive criticism or done with malice is irrelevant. Nothing he said was made up and he was 100% accurate.
Not taking anything away from X but i think a lot of guys i guess expected more. I feel like X pretty much shed light on the importance of doing lateral raises and then you see the video and his medial delt is a weak point. Anyways he has great traps and anterior delts.
At this point in this thread i guess he knows what needs to be addressed but it just baffles me that it took this long for him to realize this. i mean you said your chest was a weak point and now it’s one of your strongest body parts. Just not sure why you didn’t realize that for rear delts and triceps so you could address them sooner.
I get caught up in the moment at times and i must admit i was talking to the screen while you were doing lunges. I was like “come on X, straighten your back, bring you knees lower to the ground”… lol I guess i was kinda rooting for you, although i did laugh when you said you need a break because you have asthma…lol
Bodybuilding encompasses a muscular well balanced physique not just size. Hopefully this was a humbling experience for you and you reevaluate your methods of training. I commend you for putting yourself out there especially with your reputation around these boards.
I learn a couple things:
Address weaknesses IMMEDIATELY. I’ve always said that but my argument get countered by bigger guys saying just worry about getting bigger and the imbalance will look less obvious. We now see that’s not the case.
Stick to the basics and free weights as much as you can.[/quote]
My medial delts are weak?
My triceps are lagging because of the intense pain I had in my elbows until very recently. There were months where I couldn’t train them at all. It isn’t like they are lagging because I didn’t see it.
I’m not even coming down on you hard…but this attitude like I am blind to my own body as if there couldn’t be reasons for some of that is a tad off.
My rear delts are lagging.
My triceps are lagging.
My hamstrings are lagging.
These aren’t surprises. What was new info was CT saying I need more back width and I will definitely work on all that I know to be true weaknesses. Triceps had already been added twice a week for the last few months…something I’ve written in my Indigo log.
Be less worried about my “humility”…unless you have corrected all of your own character defects.
Yeah, there are weak points…that can be corrected in possibly less than a year. I will work on that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
I don’t really have a preference, I just thought it was funny that he did that when he called everyone else by their real names. I guess a part of it is that I’m curious what your first name is.
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Why? What relevance in life would you need to know his first name? Not coming to his defense lord knows X can defend himself. But why cant he have or anybody have some privacy as a professional? [/quote]
Because it’s 2011 and this is the internet. Duh.
It would be funnier if CT switched back and forth between ‘Fro-presser X’ and the other iterations of the name that came with the avatars. lol [/quote]
Sorry Bones I forget and I guess the face palm is a big insult for the younger members.
Mr. whatever your name is and your gold medal avi, I apologize. I thought this topic has been covered many, many, many, many times. So for you to bring it up with what, some small hope that since you were asking X would reveal it to you? [/quote]
You lost? Get A Life Section --------------------------------------->[/quote]
Im old sometimes I wonder out to engage with the youth of today. It helps remind me why I think we should have forced military service for all 18-20 year olds. [/quote]
Cool story bro. In the future, engage with someone else. I have zero desire to get into pointless debates with you. If I did, I’d post in GAL.[/quote]
Just a note from an outside observer…but several people are trying to tell you the exact same thing.
I do find it funny how many are concerned with whether this was a “humbling experience” when they refuse to take any advice about themselves.[/quote]
All I’ve gotten from him is that it’s somehow wrong for me to state on a public forum that I’m curious about something. I never asked your name. I never put you on the spot or put any pressure on you to do anything. There are people who feel the exact same way as me, that a first name is nothing to hide.
I have my full name posted in my profile. I have never posted anything on this forum that I am ashamed of. I have posted physique photos but they don’t have my face in them. I’m not someone who goes out of his way to say rude things to people.
X, you will have one awesome physique, proportionate or not, if you cut down to a body fat that is universally considered ‘lean’. From the standpoint of a curious kid, I would really like to see that happen. Just please don’t lump me into the group of people that go out of their way to antagonize you. I see the holes in your physique, as others do, just as I see them in myself, but I’m not the one who is going to try to tear you down for it.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
All I’ve gotten from him is that it’s somehow wrong for me to state on a public forum that I’m curious about something.[/quote]
He isn’t the only person who discussed it.
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I never asked your name. I never put you on the spot or put any pressure on you to do anything. There are people who feel the exact same way as me, that a first name is nothing to hide. [/quote]
Not the point. I was on this site when I was your age. I would have the tact to send a private message. You didn’t. You also see nothing wrong with several of the people here who actually have careers telling you the same thing. I already know you don’t really get it. What I don’t get…is why you think successful people older than you are clueless.
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I have my full name posted in my profile.[/quote]
Good for you. Credentials? Can what you say here be directly linked to your own personal business?
Yeah, the experienced guys here are the clueless ones.
Yeah.
On a similar note, Professor X’s situation reminds me a lot of George Leeman/babyslayer/Mega Newb. He used to be very fat, very big and very strong. He was regularly bashed around the internet but didn’t hold back from being a dick either. He recently cut down and is very close to single digit bodyfat and looks terrific. He’s also turned his attitude around completely. It seems like X is pretty much doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale. He’s been a lot ‘gentler’ in the tone of his posts and seems like a pretty nice guy to me lately.
It’s not that tough to be both nice and helpful. The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 do it.
did not think about momentum of a car to a prowler, and never having used a Prowler, I can see why my original statement was not entirely accurate.
then again a few hundred pounds on a Prowler, or 3,000 pound vehicle on wheels? over 100 yards I’m gonna guess both will wear you out.
Now who wants to put it to the test
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
On a similar note, Professor X’s situation reminds me a lot of George Leeman/babyslayer/Mega Newb. He used to be very fat, very big and very strong. He was regularly bashed around the internet but didn’t hold back from being a dick either. He recently cut down and is very close to single digit bodyfat and looks terrific. He’s also turned his attitude around completely. It seems like X is pretty much doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale. He’s been a lot ‘gentler’ in the tone of his posts and seems like a pretty nice guy to me lately.
It’s not that tough to be both nice and helpful. The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 do it.[/quote]
The only real thing that changed is that you can now see my personality. I dare you to go find these posts that go against what you’ve seen…now that you know how I really act.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
did not think about momentum of a car to a prowler, and never having used a Prowler, I can see why my original statement was not entirely accurate.
then again a few hundred pounds on a Prowler, or 3,000 pound vehicle on wheels? over 100 yards I’m gonna guess both will wear you out.
Now who wants to put it to the test[/quote]
It’s just different. Once you get a car moving, the goal is mostly to keep it moving. That isn’t that hard unless you aren’t strong enough or are going uphill.
That sled would stop just due to friction…then you have to push hard to get it going. You use a lot of energy just doing that.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
On a similar note, Professor X’s situation reminds me a lot of George Leeman/babyslayer/Mega Newb. He used to be very fat, very big and very strong. He was regularly bashed around the internet but didn’t hold back from being a dick either. He recently cut down and is very close to single digit bodyfat and looks terrific. He’s also turned his attitude around completely. It seems like X is pretty much doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale. He’s been a lot ‘gentler’ in the tone of his posts and seems like a pretty nice guy to me lately.
It’s not that tough to be both nice and helpful. The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 do it.[/quote]
Not to hi-jack this further, but MegaNewb was the fucking man, and ended up owning every last bitch who was on here running their mouths - awesome. Dude/kid deserves a shit ton of credit.
[quote]SSC wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
On a similar note, Professor X’s situation reminds me a lot of George Leeman/babyslayer/Mega Newb. He used to be very fat, very big and very strong. He was regularly bashed around the internet but didn’t hold back from being a dick either. He recently cut down and is very close to single digit bodyfat and looks terrific. He’s also turned his attitude around completely. It seems like X is pretty much doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale. He’s been a lot ‘gentler’ in the tone of his posts and seems like a pretty nice guy to me lately.
It’s not that tough to be both nice and helpful. The Mighty Stu and ebomb5522 do it.[/quote]
Not to hi-jack this further, but MegaNewb was the fucking man, and ended up owning every last bitch who was on here running their mouths - awesome. Dude/kid deserves a shit ton of credit.[/quote]
For realz. His development is pretty far past anyone who was talking shit to him.